Panetta to Be Named C.I.A. Director

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Sen. Dianne Feinstein, incoming chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee, indicates she might oppose the pick.

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Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), who this week begins her tenure as the first female chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee, said today that she was not consulted on the choice and indicated she might oppose it.

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A senior aide to Sen. John D. Rockefeller IV (D-W.Va.), outgoing chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, said that the senator "would have concerns" about a Panetta nomination.

Rockefeller "thinks very highly of Panetta," the aide said. "But he's puzzled by the selection. He has concerns because he has always believed that the director of CIA needs to be someone with significant operational intelligence experience, and someone outside the political realm."

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As White House chief of staff, Panetta would have been privy to the nation's most sensitive intelligence matters.

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Despite that background, some CIA veterans expressed skepticism, saying that it requires years of experience to understand the complexities of intelligence gathering.

"If you go in thinking your experience someplace else is going to transfer, it doesn't," said the former high-ranking CIA official, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/na...0,5514283.story

[Danno 1,228]

We cannot and we must not use torture under any circumstances. We are better than that.

As they say... "all is fair in love and war".

[nowhereman 1]

We cannot and we must not use torture under any circumstances. We are better than that.

As they say... "all is fair in love and war".

Let me guess... your toilet paper is printed with a Geneva Convention pattern?

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Sen. Dianne Feinstein, incoming chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee, indicates she might oppose the pick.

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Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), who this week begins her tenure as the first female chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee, said today that she was not consulted on the choice and indicated she might oppose it.

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A senior aide to Sen. John D. Rockefeller IV (D-W.Va.), outgoing chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, said that the senator "would have concerns" about a Panetta nomination.

Rockefeller "thinks very highly of Panetta," the aide said. "But he's puzzled by the selection. He has concerns because he has always believed that the director of CIA needs to be someone with significant operational intelligence experience, and someone outside the political realm."

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As White House chief of staff, Panetta would have been privy to the nation's most sensitive intelligence matters.

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Despite that background, some CIA veterans expressed skepticism, saying that it requires years of experience to understand the complexities of intelligence gathering.

"If you go in thinking your experience someplace else is going to transfer, it doesn't," said the former high-ranking CIA official, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/na...0,5514283.story

This concern seems a bit odd considering past appointees who didn't come from within the ranks of the CIA.

[mawilson 2,133]

If the CIA captures a terrorist who they think has knowledge of an imminent attack against an

American city, they'd better torture the ####### out of him until he talks. Use a blowtorch and a

carving knife, if necessary.

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This concern seems a bit odd considering past appointees who didn't come from within the ranks of the CIA.

I am guessing it has more to do with the fact that Obama didn't "consult" with them about it before making the pick. Injured egos.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

This concern seems a bit odd considering past appointees who didn't come from within the ranks of the CIA.

I am guessing it has more to do with the fact that Obama didn't "consult" with them about it before making the pick. Injured egos.

That makes more sense than the implication that Obama made a hasty choice.

[mox 298]

If the CIA captures a terrorist who they think has knowledge of an imminent attack against an

American city, they'd better torture the ####### out of him until he talks. Use a blowtorch and a

carving knife, if necessary.

I actually agree with you; if we're in a friggin' Jack Baur situation where the whole Eastern seaboard is going to go up in a mushroom cloud unless they can get the code from the evil terrorist within the next 24 hours. (especially the Eastern seaboard, because that's where all my America hating buddies live!) But this is much different than institutionalizing the practice of torture in order to obtain routine intelligence, most of which will be wrong.

[Ban Hammer 13,355]

Sen. Dianne Feinstein, incoming chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee, indicates she might oppose the pick.

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Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), who this week begins her tenure as the first female chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee, said today that she was not consulted on the choice and indicated she might oppose it.

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someone's on a high horse, ain't she?

[mawilson 2,133]

If the CIA captures a terrorist who they think has knowledge of an imminent attack against an

American city, they'd better torture the ####### out of him until he talks. Use a blowtorch and a

carving knife, if necessary.

I actually agree with you; if we're in a friggin' Jack Baur situation where the whole Eastern seaboard is going to go up in a mushroom cloud unless they can get the code from the evil terrorist within the next 24 hours. (especially the Eastern seaboard, because that's where all my America hating buddies live!) But this is much different than institutionalizing the practice of torture in order to obtain routine intelligence, most of which will be wrong.

Dammit mox, keep it up and you will be expelled from the Collective Left!

[mox 298]

Dammit mox, keep it up and you will be expelled from the Collective Left!

RAISE TAXES ON BUSINESSES AND THE WEALTHY TO FUND ENFORCED SAME-SEX MARRIAGE, THIRD-TRIMESTER ABORTIONS, AND TRIGGER LOCKS!!!!!!!

That should put me back in the club for awhile.

[nowhereman 1]

If the CIA captures a terrorist who they think has knowledge of an imminent attack against an

American city, they'd better torture the ####### out of him until he talks. Use a blowtorch and a

carving knife, if necessary.

I actually agree with you; if we're in a friggin' Jack Baur situation where the whole Eastern seaboard is going to go up in a mushroom cloud unless they can get the code from the evil terrorist within the next 24 hours. (especially the Eastern seaboard, because that's where all my America hating buddies live!) But this is much different than institutionalizing the practice of torture in order to obtain routine intelligence, most of which will be wrong.

Exactly... rarely do you have a situation where you have concrete evidence that a suspect is a terrorist & hooking his nads up to jumper cables will save lives. Remember that Lieutenant Colonel who put a gun to an Iraqi's head (I believe it was an interpreter that was suspected of informing terrorists of his unit's movements)? Well in retrospect it turns out that the guy was probably not working with terrorists. I'm not saying that there are never situations where bending the rules isn't warranted, but a blanket "torture the bastards" policy will do a lot more harm than good.

[mawilson 2,133]

If the CIA captures a terrorist who they think has knowledge of an imminent attack against an

American city, they'd better torture the ####### out of him until he talks. Use a blowtorch and a

carving knife, if necessary.

I actually agree with you; if we're in a friggin' Jack Baur situation where the whole Eastern seaboard is going to go up in a mushroom cloud unless they can get the code from the evil terrorist within the next 24 hours. (especially the Eastern seaboard, because that's where all my America hating buddies live!) But this is much different than institutionalizing the practice of torture in order to obtain routine intelligence, most of which will be wrong.

Exactly... rarely do you have a situation where you have concrete evidence that a suspect is a terrorist & hooking his nads up to jumper cables will save lives. Remember that Lieutenant Colonel who put a gun to an Iraqi's head (I believe it was an interpreter that was suspected of informing terrorists of his unit's movements)? Well in retrospect it turns out that the guy was probably not working with terrorists. I'm not saying that there are never situations where bending the rules isn't warranted, but a blanket "torture the bastards" policy will do a lot more harm than good.

No need for a blanket torture policy, but the President should be able to sign an executive order

approving the use of torture in certain cases.

[nowhereman 1]

If the CIA captures a terrorist who they think has knowledge of an imminent attack against an

American city, they'd better torture the ####### out of him until he talks. Use a blowtorch and a

carving knife, if necessary.

I actually agree with you; if we're in a friggin' Jack Baur situation where the whole Eastern seaboard is going to go up in a mushroom cloud unless they can get the code from the evil terrorist within the next 24 hours. (especially the Eastern seaboard, because that's where all my America hating buddies live!) But this is much different than institutionalizing the practice of torture in order to obtain routine intelligence, most of which will be wrong.

Exactly... rarely do you have a situation where you have concrete evidence that a suspect is a terrorist & hooking his nads up to jumper cables will save lives. Remember that Lieutenant Colonel who put a gun to an Iraqi's head (I believe it was an interpreter that was suspected of informing terrorists of his unit's movements)? Well in retrospect it turns out that the guy was probably not working with terrorists. I'm not saying that there are never situations where bending the rules isn't warranted, but a blanket "torture the bastards" policy will do a lot more harm than good.

No need for a blanket torture policy, but the President should be able to sign an executive order

approving the use of torture in certain cases.

I'd agree with you if it were most Presidents, but I wouldn't let Bush sign my kid's permission slip to miss school.

[john & jean 37]

If the CIA captures a terrorist who they think has knowledge of an imminent attack against an

American city, they'd better torture the ####### out of him until he talks. Use a blowtorch and a

carving knife, if necessary.

mawilson, been watching Rambo re runs???