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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Gambia
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Hi All,

I am trying to find out what you all did to prove evidence of relationship.

The embassy in Dakar is now asking my husband (through an email to me) to come to an interview (that they set) and bring proof of relationship.

"Please be advised that the consular officer has scheduled Mr. xxxxx for another interview on March 25 at 2:00 PM. Please have him bring all evidence of your relationship to the petitioner ( photos, letters, correspondence---)

Best regards,

Eligibility Review Unit. (MS) "

He brought photo's of us together, greeting cards, a bank card I gave for him to withdraw money on, and a few letters.

All this was given (and not returned) to them on the first interview in November.

I was then told by my husband that everything was fine, but that we needed a better I-864.

Now that we have that taken care of (I got a cosponsor who is his 1st cousin living here in the U.S.), they now want MORE proof of relationship.

This is crazy because that part of the interview was already covered and we were led to believe that it was only the cosponsor that was needed.

I email them on a regular basis to get info.

The last time I called, I heard them say in the background "is that the american?" This was heard when they were passing the phone to the CO.

I plan on going to the interview this time with my husband, but does anyone know how we may "document a relationship" when we don't even live together??

By the way, it is expensive for my husband to go online everyday and when we try to send letters.....it either comes in a month or not at all.

I foolishly sent my husband some money (their currency) once and another time a ring. Though they were not worth very much, they never got to him.

Any suggestions?

P.S. I travel to see my husband every 3 to 4 months, so my passport is FULL of stamps from his country, so what about using this as evidence also?

12/25/2004 - Met my future hubby while on trip to Gambia

12/13/2006 - Married my hubby in Gambia (West Africa)

12/08/2007 - Sent I-130 to Chicago Lock box. USPS Express Mail December 08,'07, 7:44 pm

02/05/2008 - I-130 NOA1 Hardcopy Received in mailbox

05/27/2008 - Filed Expedite Request by phone with CSR

06/01/2008 - Received Denial Email

06/05/2008 - Filed 2nd request

06/23/2008 - Expedite Approved

07/27/2008 - NOA2

10/21/2008 - Case complete at NVC (Technically was expedited to embassy)

11/06/2008 - Interview at Dakar Embassy

11/06/2008 - Notice (show more income evidence from petitioner)

11/07/2008 - Case on hold

11/18/2008 - 2nd Interview Date

11/18/2008 - Notice (Show even more income and ORIGINAL docs now from 1st cosponsor

12/23/2008 - Received email for 3rd Interview scheduled for March 25th, 2009. Bring Pics

01/23/2009- In Gambia with hubby

03/25/2009- Interview

04/09/2009- POE Atlanta (CR-1 Status until 2011)

04/13/2009- husband arrested for domestic violence (Aggravated Assault-Felony)

05/19/2009- Filed for divorce

06/02/2009- Letter sent to immigration detailing abuse & fraud

09/08/2009- Divorce Hearing

09/10/2009- Divorce Trial (Continued)

03/11/2010- Notice To Appear issued

03/22/2010- Divorced

05/18/2010- Deportation Master Hearing

05/18/2010- Deportation Ordered

06/17/2010- Appeal Time Over. ICE picked him up. In Jail

08/10/2010- Another Master Hearing Scheduled. Out of jail.

05/31/2012- Individual Hearing Scheduled

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P.S. I travel to see my husband every 3 to 4 months, so my passport is FULL of stamps from his country, so what about using this as evidence also?

This (evidence of trips, boarding passes, passport stamps, etc) would be pretty strong evidence to add - plus you're being at the (next) interview is probably not a bad idea. :thumbs:

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ghana
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I agree with Karin. In addition I would gather all the evidence from the first interview and since to take along as well.

Mama to 2 beautiful boys (August 2011 and January 2015)

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Gambia
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Yes, I'm planning on going to see my husband at the end of january and trying to just stay their until the interview (if possible).

But, as far as evidence, I'm bringing the following:

1. copies of passport pages,

2. boarding passes,

3. receipts for hotel,

4. receipt of laptops purchased,

5. Cellphone bill with our names on the bill,

6. photo's

7. letters from previous months (we will be writing some more to each other also. (even though I will be living with him there. hahahah)

Any other suggestions?

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12/25/2004 - Met my future hubby while on trip to Gambia

12/13/2006 - Married my hubby in Gambia (West Africa)

12/08/2007 - Sent I-130 to Chicago Lock box. USPS Express Mail December 08,'07, 7:44 pm

02/05/2008 - I-130 NOA1 Hardcopy Received in mailbox

05/27/2008 - Filed Expedite Request by phone with CSR

06/01/2008 - Received Denial Email

06/05/2008 - Filed 2nd request

06/23/2008 - Expedite Approved

07/27/2008 - NOA2

10/21/2008 - Case complete at NVC (Technically was expedited to embassy)

11/06/2008 - Interview at Dakar Embassy

11/06/2008 - Notice (show more income evidence from petitioner)

11/07/2008 - Case on hold

11/18/2008 - 2nd Interview Date

11/18/2008 - Notice (Show even more income and ORIGINAL docs now from 1st cosponsor

12/23/2008 - Received email for 3rd Interview scheduled for March 25th, 2009. Bring Pics

01/23/2009- In Gambia with hubby

03/25/2009- Interview

04/09/2009- POE Atlanta (CR-1 Status until 2011)

04/13/2009- husband arrested for domestic violence (Aggravated Assault-Felony)

05/19/2009- Filed for divorce

06/02/2009- Letter sent to immigration detailing abuse & fraud

09/08/2009- Divorce Hearing

09/10/2009- Divorce Trial (Continued)

03/11/2010- Notice To Appear issued

03/22/2010- Divorced

05/18/2010- Deportation Master Hearing

05/18/2010- Deportation Ordered

06/17/2010- Appeal Time Over. ICE picked him up. In Jail

08/10/2010- Another Master Hearing Scheduled. Out of jail.

05/31/2012- Individual Hearing Scheduled

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Nigeria
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As you are married are you covered by life insurance or medical. Adding him to the policy would be a "married" act. How about a will ?

First visit:2007-09-12 to 2008-09-23

I-129F Sent : 2007-11-24

I-129F NOA1 : 2007-11-30

I-129F NOA2 : 2008-03-31

NVC Received : 2008-04-21

NVC Left : 2008-04-23

Consulate Received : 2008-04-28

Packet 3 Received : 2008-05-20

Interivew date : 2008-08-07 CO asks inappropraite questions

His father died: 2008-08-18

Retain Marc Ellis 2008-09

Visited Nigeria again: 2008-11-12

petitioned returned to CSC :2008-11-27

returned to USA 2008-12-13

His father buried 2009-01-03

picks up K1 visa Nov 2009

Marriage Dec 2009

take throne as Igwe /Lolo 2010 or 2011

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Filed: Other Country: Jamaica
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I agree with all of the previous suggestions. When my SO and I were going through the process of a K-1 Fiance visa, we were also told to provide additional evidence of a relationship.

Upon looking at what you have, all of your evidence do not necessarily prove a relationship with your husband. Now, from looking at what you've listed, it makes perfect sense to both you and me. But when I too was going through the process of getting my SO here, I learned from the CO that my evidence did not prove a relationship with my husband. For example - purchase of a laptop does not prove to them that you'll have a relationship. I personally sent hundreds of dollars worth of calling cards, and was told that used calling cards does not prove that those calls were made to my SO. <bummer> As expensive as it may be, try sending more emails to each other.

ALL things work TOGETHER for GOOD!

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Nigeria
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We also were told to provide more evidence even though I had put together tons for the interview. I printed out every chat and email we ever sent. I also sent additional pictures. We had phone records from using pingo, I printed those out and for good measure I highlighted the numbers. I produced a huge amount of paper for them to go through and from what my Husband said they took it and never gave it a second look (in front of him). After all of the evidence we still had to go for another interview at the Fraud Unit. They interviewed us individually with out the other present, for about an hour each. We both had to write statements about our relationship. Which I am sure they later compared to see if our stories match. Sometimes I think they just ask for more evidence to see if you can produce it. I would use your travel info and passport stamps for sure :thumbs: keep your head up don't let them get to you.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Gambia
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wow, this is daunting.

I wonder if me living there for a few months will even count for anything.

lol

12/25/2004 - Met my future hubby while on trip to Gambia

12/13/2006 - Married my hubby in Gambia (West Africa)

12/08/2007 - Sent I-130 to Chicago Lock box. USPS Express Mail December 08,'07, 7:44 pm

02/05/2008 - I-130 NOA1 Hardcopy Received in mailbox

05/27/2008 - Filed Expedite Request by phone with CSR

06/01/2008 - Received Denial Email

06/05/2008 - Filed 2nd request

06/23/2008 - Expedite Approved

07/27/2008 - NOA2

10/21/2008 - Case complete at NVC (Technically was expedited to embassy)

11/06/2008 - Interview at Dakar Embassy

11/06/2008 - Notice (show more income evidence from petitioner)

11/07/2008 - Case on hold

11/18/2008 - 2nd Interview Date

11/18/2008 - Notice (Show even more income and ORIGINAL docs now from 1st cosponsor

12/23/2008 - Received email for 3rd Interview scheduled for March 25th, 2009. Bring Pics

01/23/2009- In Gambia with hubby

03/25/2009- Interview

04/09/2009- POE Atlanta (CR-1 Status until 2011)

04/13/2009- husband arrested for domestic violence (Aggravated Assault-Felony)

05/19/2009- Filed for divorce

06/02/2009- Letter sent to immigration detailing abuse & fraud

09/08/2009- Divorce Hearing

09/10/2009- Divorce Trial (Continued)

03/11/2010- Notice To Appear issued

03/22/2010- Divorced

05/18/2010- Deportation Master Hearing

05/18/2010- Deportation Ordered

06/17/2010- Appeal Time Over. ICE picked him up. In Jail

08/10/2010- Another Master Hearing Scheduled. Out of jail.

05/31/2012- Individual Hearing Scheduled

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Nigeria
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Hello,

Wow, I have to say to your evidence. To be honest, I only spoke with my husband 1 every 3-4 days for no more then 10 minutes. We emailed each other on an average of 1-2 times a week often skipping weeks. I only visited him 1 time.

I think our age and his verifiable back round was what solidify our relationship. They had a hard time believing that at his age he had never been married. He has had a relationship that was not solidified. His travel with the ministry prevented him from settling down.

I collected all our email in a folder. Then I prented the page that showed the contents of the folder which stated the dates , replies, and forward. Then I printed about two emails within each month that had a long back and forth correspondence. I had sent him money orders for special occasions. He sent me items on a couple of occasions. Until I found out just how much it cost him to do this. I never once mailed him anything until the interview.

I think they are looking for emails that show some sort of typical behavioral communication. I think it is great that you will be there. Your love, commitment,and devotion will shine through with every answer!

Mrs.J

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Gambia
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Honestly, I think these people are just retentive.

If I could document all the stuff that married folks go through as a couple, there offices would be overflowing. hahahah

12/25/2004 - Met my future hubby while on trip to Gambia

12/13/2006 - Married my hubby in Gambia (West Africa)

12/08/2007 - Sent I-130 to Chicago Lock box. USPS Express Mail December 08,'07, 7:44 pm

02/05/2008 - I-130 NOA1 Hardcopy Received in mailbox

05/27/2008 - Filed Expedite Request by phone with CSR

06/01/2008 - Received Denial Email

06/05/2008 - Filed 2nd request

06/23/2008 - Expedite Approved

07/27/2008 - NOA2

10/21/2008 - Case complete at NVC (Technically was expedited to embassy)

11/06/2008 - Interview at Dakar Embassy

11/06/2008 - Notice (show more income evidence from petitioner)

11/07/2008 - Case on hold

11/18/2008 - 2nd Interview Date

11/18/2008 - Notice (Show even more income and ORIGINAL docs now from 1st cosponsor

12/23/2008 - Received email for 3rd Interview scheduled for March 25th, 2009. Bring Pics

01/23/2009- In Gambia with hubby

03/25/2009- Interview

04/09/2009- POE Atlanta (CR-1 Status until 2011)

04/13/2009- husband arrested for domestic violence (Aggravated Assault-Felony)

05/19/2009- Filed for divorce

06/02/2009- Letter sent to immigration detailing abuse & fraud

09/08/2009- Divorce Hearing

09/10/2009- Divorce Trial (Continued)

03/11/2010- Notice To Appear issued

03/22/2010- Divorced

05/18/2010- Deportation Master Hearing

05/18/2010- Deportation Ordered

06/17/2010- Appeal Time Over. ICE picked him up. In Jail

08/10/2010- Another Master Hearing Scheduled. Out of jail.

05/31/2012- Individual Hearing Scheduled

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ghana
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I feel like such an old timer with everyone talking about sending emails and using phone cards. We eventually had emails, and eventually did call, but I didn't use any phone card stuff as evidence. We did have a ton of letters. Real letters. The kind that need stamps. If letters aren't getting to him, then send duplicates and let him get a new post office box. Don't send any packages or any money. Only send hand written letters and have him send you hand written letters. Bring the original letters and the original envelopes to the interview.

K-1 (more detail in profile):

05-25-05 - Applied for I-129F

06-07-05 - Approved

12-01-05 - Picked up visa!!

AOS:

12-25-05 - Flight lands at JFK - EAD stamp

05-15-06 - Green card received!! Woo-hoo!!!

05-09-07 - Our first son born!

Removal of Conditions

01-29-08 - Mailed Removal of Conditions Application (overnight)

02-07-08 - Check Cashed

02-08-08 - NOA1

03-12-08 - Biometrics

12-12-08 - Card production ordered! Yay!

12-30-08 - 10 year card received! Yay!

Naturalization

01-12-10 - Mailed application

01-20-10 - NOA

02-16-10 - Biometrics

04-21-10 - Interview

04-21-10 - Oath ceremony - US CITIZEN!!!

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Ghana
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Hi All,

I am trying to find out what you all did to prove evidence of relationship.

The embassy in Dakar is now asking my husband (through an email to me) to come to an interview (that they set) and bring proof of relationship.

"Please be advised that the consular officer has scheduled Mr. xxxxx for another interview on March 25 at 2:00 PM. Please have him bring all evidence of your relationship to the petitioner ( photos, letters, correspondence---)

Best regards,

Eligibility Review Unit. (MS) "

He brought photo's of us together, greeting cards, a bank card I gave for him to withdraw money on, and a few letters.

All this was given (and not returned) to them on the first interview in November.

I was then told by my husband that everything was fine, but that we needed a better I-864.

Now that we have that taken care of (I got a cosponsor who is his 1st cousin living here in the U.S.), they now want MORE proof of relationship.

This is crazy because that part of the interview was already covered and we were led to believe that it was only the cosponsor that was needed.

I email them on a regular basis to get info.

The last time I called, I heard them say in the background "is that the american?" This was heard when they were passing the phone to the CO.

I plan on going to the interview this time with my husband, but does anyone know how we may "document a relationship" when we don't even live together??

By the way, it is expensive for my husband to go online everyday and when we try to send letters.....it either comes in a month or not at all.

I foolishly sent my husband some money (their currency) once and another time a ring. Though they were not worth very much, they never got to him.

Any suggestions?

P.S. I travel to see my husband every 3 to 4 months, so my passport is FULL of stamps from his country, so what about using this as evidence also?

It sounds familiar. My fiancee was told on her first interview in November that the consulate is short on staff (it doesn't sound American to me). On her second interview they want more letter mails and pictures of us together, although we have provided a ton of IMs, 2 letter mails, 5 pictures of us together and family members, emails, phone calls,..etc. But the CO wants more photos and letter mails. As you all know it takes weeks sometimes months for a snail mail to be received if ever. So I have decided to be with her at her third interview. It is frustrating.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ghana
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It could. Be proactive and start sending letters and emails now.

K-1 (more detail in profile):

05-25-05 - Applied for I-129F

06-07-05 - Approved

12-01-05 - Picked up visa!!

AOS:

12-25-05 - Flight lands at JFK - EAD stamp

05-15-06 - Green card received!! Woo-hoo!!!

05-09-07 - Our first son born!

Removal of Conditions

01-29-08 - Mailed Removal of Conditions Application (overnight)

02-07-08 - Check Cashed

02-08-08 - NOA1

03-12-08 - Biometrics

12-12-08 - Card production ordered! Yay!

12-30-08 - 10 year card received! Yay!

Naturalization

01-12-10 - Mailed application

01-20-10 - NOA

02-16-10 - Biometrics

04-21-10 - Interview

04-21-10 - Oath ceremony - US CITIZEN!!!

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ethiopia
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Niel&Femi, you should start gathering proof of on going relationship now. It is reasonable to expect proof from the time you filed the K1 until the interview (and you should continue to collect after that in preparation for AOS).

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