green card marriages, ladies beware

[Caladan 19]

A "red flag" is just what the consulate has noticed is a common factor in fraudulent cases. But that doesn't mean it's a "red flag" for the relationship, or useful for an *individual* ascertaining the loyalty of her boyfriend. Two separate things.

[morocco4ever 63]

A "red flag" is just what the consulate has noticed is a common factor in fraudulent cases. But that doesn't mean it's a "red flag" for the relationship, or useful for an *individual* ascertaining the loyalty of her boyfriend. Two separate things.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Ahh Islam ideal if they all could be like Rasool Allah. however in the modern technological age very uncommon. Using examples such as Khadija and etc..very common for poor street wise boys to reel in the motherly foreign types..I wish they would all be sincere, often a new convert woman v devout will fall for this. Wrong as it is. Its common in all cultures religions for young men to sew some wild oats. If they were so devout and religious in such a young age they would help thier community and marry a widow and have some orphans within thier own peoples. Too bad UScis does not allow time to se ehow he acts and reacts to US living before marriage. Im sure its a real gamble with having a husband so young esp in this modern world. Plus is he helping you out by marrying him or do you have to shoulder the support the strenght and patience.Even Khadija was his servant, it was thier culture and same background so he was the chief of the house. Here whoever have the big job ande money seem to be in charge and knowledgable about life. Our prophet SWT had great knowledge above his age and guided Khadija and her children. If he is straight and happy and does by his older foreign wife on her home turf.well then ALLAH bless him greatly in the hereafter.

Kinda hard to be the head of household and have your wife be your servant when she's your employer, has more money and a higher status than you have. Stereotyping their culture doesn't explain how Khadijah became rich and independent with a much younger husband in the society she lived in, but she did. When she and the Prophet's uncle Talib died in quick succession, he was left with no protector, as he once again orphaned. Aside from the blssings from Allah, he was one with challenges in his time.

Whatever happens today between individuals doesn't distort the example of the Prophet that sets out what is allowed in the Islamic faith, which was the issue being addressed in my cited post.

[morocco4ever 63]

Ahh Islam ideal if they all could be like Rasool Allah. however in the modern technological age very uncommon. Using examples such as Khadija and etc..very common for poor street wise boys to reel in the motherly foreign types..I wish they would all be sincere, often a new convert woman v devout will fall for this. Wrong as it is. Its common in all cultures religions for young men to sew some wild oats. If they were so devout and religious in such a young age they would help thier community and marry a widow and have some orphans within thier own peoples. Too bad UScis does not allow time to se ehow he acts and reacts to US living before marriage. Im sure its a real gamble with having a husband so young esp in this modern world. Plus is he helping you out by marrying him or do you have to shoulder the support the strenght and patience.Even Khadija was his servant, it was thier culture and same background so he was the chief of the house. Here whoever have the big job ande money seem to be in charge and knowledgable about life. Our prophet SWT had great knowledge above his age and guided Khadija and her children. If he is straight and happy and does by his older foreign wife on her home turf.well then ALLAH bless him greatly in the hereafter.

Kinda hard to be the head of household and have your wife be your servant when she's your employer, has more money and a higher status than you have. Stereotyping their culture doesn't explain how Khadijah became rich and independent with a much younger husband in the society she lived in, but she did. When she and the Prophet's uncle Talib died in quick succession, he was left with no protector, as he once again orphaned. Aside from the blssings from Allah, he was one with challenges in his time.

:thumbs:Whatever happens today between individuals doesn't distort the example of the Prophet that sets out what is allowed in the Islamic faith, which was the issue being addressed in my cited post.

This, as an outsider from the Islam faith, is how I see it. It appears that there is a confusion between what Islam preaches and modern day culture.

[Ihavequestions 419]

In Islam, we are to marry chaste partners; adulterers and fornicators may not marry virgins.

In other words, there's no way to "make an honest woman out of her"?

Fornicators marry fornicators. Chaste people marry chaste people.

i assume you have research on this and not just stating your personal beliefs...

Is the Qur'an good enough for you?

A man who is fornicator does not marry but a woman who is a fornicator or a polytheist; and a woman who is a fornicator does not marry but a man who is a fornicator or a polytheist. And this has been prohibited for the believers. (24:3)

Wait a minute because I'm confused: A "polytheist" believes in/worships more than one God.

[Imua 0]

In Islam, we are to marry chaste partners; adulterers and fornicators may not marry virgins.

In other words, there's no way to "make an honest woman out of her"?

Fornicators marry fornicators. Chaste people marry chaste people.

i assume you have research on this and not just stating your personal beliefs...

Is the Qur'an good enough for you?

A man who is fornicator does not marry but a woman who is a fornicator or a polytheist; and a woman who is a fornicator does not marry but a man who is a fornicator or a polytheist. And this has been prohibited for the believers. (24:3)

Wait a minute because I'm confused: A "polytheist" believes in/worships more than one God.

Great, so a Buddhist/Hindu like me can marry a Muslim fornicator!!!!!

[Staashi 371]

In Islam, we are to marry chaste partners; adulterers and fornicators may not marry virgins.

In other words, there's no way to "make an honest woman out of her"?

Fornicators marry fornicators. Chaste people marry chaste people.

i assume you have research on this and not just stating your personal beliefs...

Is the Qur'an good enough for you?

A man who is fornicator does not marry but a woman who is a fornicator or a polytheist; and a woman who is a fornicator does not marry but a man who is a fornicator or a polytheist. And this has been prohibited for the believers. (24:3)

Wait a minute because I'm confused: A "polytheist" believes in/worships more than one God.

Great, so a Buddhist/Hindu like me can marry a Muslim fornicator!!!!!

Now Dolma, that would make for one hell of a marriage!

[childress_london 3]

Ahh Islam ideal if they all could be like Rasool Allah. however in the modern technological age very uncommon. Using examples such as Khadija and etc..very common for poor street wise boys to reel in the motherly foreign types..I wish they would all be sincere, often a new convert woman v devout will fall for this. Wrong as it is. Its common in all cultures religions for young men to sew some wild oats. If they were so devout and religious in such a young age they would help thier community and marry a widow and have some orphans within thier own peoples. Too bad UScis does not allow time to se ehow he acts and reacts to US living before marriage. Im sure its a real gamble with having a husband so young esp in this modern world. Plus is he helping you out by marrying him or do you have to shoulder the support the strenght and patience.Even Khadija was his servant, it was thier culture and same background so he was the chief of the house. Here whoever have the big job ande money seem to be in charge and knowledgable about life. Our prophet SWT had great knowledge above his age and guided Khadija and her children. If he is straight and happy and does by his older foreign wife on her home turf.well then ALLAH bless him greatly in the hereafter.

Kinda hard to be the head of household and have your wife be your servant when she's your employer, has more money and a higher status than you have. Stereotyping their culture doesn't explain how Khadijah became rich and independent with a much younger husband in the society she lived in, but she did. When she and the Prophet's uncle Talib died in quick succession, he was left with no protector, as he once again orphaned. Aside from the blssings from Allah, he was one with challenges in his time.

:thumbs:Whatever happens today between individuals doesn't distort the example of the Prophet that sets out what is allowed in the Islamic faith, which was the issue being addressed in my cited post.

This, as an outsider from the Islam faith, is how I see it. It appears that there is a confusion between what Islam preaches and modern day culture.

I think most religions are that way nowadays. Jesus spoke against fornication too, but how many Christians do you know are virgins when they marry? :-O

[Staashi 371]

Ahh Islam ideal if they all could be like Rasool Allah. however in the modern technological age very uncommon. Using examples such as Khadija and etc..very common for poor street wise boys to reel in the motherly foreign types..I wish they would all be sincere, often a new convert woman v devout will fall for this. Wrong as it is. Its common in all cultures religions for young men to sew some wild oats. If they were so devout and religious in such a young age they would help thier community and marry a widow and have some orphans within thier own peoples. Too bad UScis does not allow time to se ehow he acts and reacts to US living before marriage. Im sure its a real gamble with having a husband so young esp in this modern world. Plus is he helping you out by marrying him or do you have to shoulder the support the strenght and patience.Even Khadija was his servant, it was thier culture and same background so he was the chief of the house. Here whoever have the big job ande money seem to be in charge and knowledgable about life. Our prophet SWT had great knowledge above his age and guided Khadija and her children. If he is straight and happy and does by his older foreign wife on her home turf.well then ALLAH bless him greatly in the hereafter.

Kinda hard to be the head of household and have your wife be your servant when she's your employer, has more money and a higher status than you have. Stereotyping their culture doesn't explain how Khadijah became rich and independent with a much younger husband in the society she lived in, but she did. When she and the Prophet's uncle Talib died in quick succession, he was left with no protector, as he once again orphaned. Aside from the blssings from Allah, he was one with challenges in his time.

:thumbs:Whatever happens today between individuals doesn't distort the example of the Prophet that sets out what is allowed in the Islamic faith, which was the issue being addressed in my cited post.

This, as an outsider from the Islam faith, is how I see it. It appears that there is a confusion between what Islam preaches and modern day culture.

I think most religions are that way nowadays. Jesus spoke against fornication too, but how many Christians do you know are virgins when they marry? :-O

There are a few - but it's rare.

[UmmSqueakster 54]

The Qur'an is what it is *shrugs* Either you accept it as the revealed word of God or you don't. Islam is a hardcore monotheistic religion that's stance on polytheism isn't a secret. Meh.

[Imua 0]

In Islam, we are to marry chaste partners; adulterers and fornicators may not marry virgins.

In other words, there's no way to "make an honest woman out of her"?

Fornicators marry fornicators. Chaste people marry chaste people.

i assume you have research on this and not just stating your personal beliefs...

Is the Qur'an good enough for you?

A man who is fornicator does not marry but a woman who is a fornicator or a polytheist; and a woman who is a fornicator does not marry but a man who is a fornicator or a polytheist. And this has been prohibited for the believers. (24:3)

Wait a minute because I'm confused: A "polytheist" believes in/worships more than one God.

Great, so a Buddhist/Hindu like me can marry a Muslim fornicator!!!!!

Now Dolma, that would make for one hell of a marriage!

Could you imagine the holiday gatherings????

[Staashi 371]

Wait a minute because I'm confused: A "polytheist" believes in/worships more than one God.

Great, so a Buddhist/Hindu like me can marry a Muslim fornicator!!!!!

Now Dolma, that would make for one hell of a marriage!

Could you imagine the holiday gatherings????

Now, that I would love to see.

[bhajishah 4]

In any religion where ADAM came first and yada. The men are in charge of household , community and when married have final say in all matters. EVen with Muhammed swt. to deny this is to be deluded take a realistic approach. not saying good not saying bad, its just the way it is. If you develop and society where woman takes over headship completely look what happens, first off the husband gets more and more dishearted and feeling inadequate (sound familiar) he might start picking figths petty to gain some control and manhood or he may seek outside of relationship or look for homegirl to meet his needs for validationl. The wife who takes chargeoften feels alone isolated and not being coddled ie emotional needs not being met. they turn cold and bitter. the sons have identity crisis and turn gay. and daughters turn into big mouth annoying demanding hos and bull dykes. So be in charge and treat your man like the underling little boy . And think next time y ou think its fraud or he being cold or a fraud. The whole set up marriage could be a fraud of universal nature and balance.. Islam is submissin to ALLAH and service to him and others. Many DO not know thier place because Pride gets in thier way.!!

[chaishai 1]

In any religion where ADAM came first and yada. The men are in charge of household , community and when married have final say in all matters. EVen with Muhammed swt. to deny this is to be deluded take a realistic approach. not saying good not saying bad, its just the way it is. If you develop and society where woman takes over headship completely look what happens, first off the husband gets more and more dishearted and feeling inadequate (sound familiar) he might start picking figths petty to gain some control and manhood or he may seek outside of relationship or look for homegirl to meet his needs for validationl. The wife who takes chargeoften feels alone isolated and not being coddled ie emotional needs not being met. they turn cold and bitter. the sons have identity crisis and turn gay. and daughters turn into big mouth annoying demanding hos and bull dykes. So be in charge and treat your man like the underling little boy . And think next time y ou think its fraud or he being cold or a fraud. The whole set up marriage could be a fraud of universal nature and balance.. Islam is submissin to ALLAH and service to him and others. Many DO not know thier place because Pride gets in thier way.!!

classic!

[morocco4ever 63]