The 10 Most Awesomely Bad Moments of the Bush Presidency

[Ban Hammer 13,355]

the global economic mess falls squarely in his lap, fair or not.

Why? Seems pretty stupid to hold him responsible for the global financial crisis.

He didn't create the subprime mortgage crisis; if anything, he tried to stop it.

you have violated the first commandment of vj ot: thou shalt not say anything positive about gwb!

[Danno 1,228]

Every time, I want to beat Bush up for the things I disliked about his 8 years in office...

I consider the alternatives we were presented with.

[HAL 9000 96]

Every time, I want to beat Bush up for the things I disliked about his 8 years in office...

I consider the alternatives we were presented with.

Yeah I know. No war in Iraq, better domestic economics...

[mox 298]

Every time, I want to beat Bush up for the things I disliked about his 8 years in office...

I consider the alternatives we were presented with.

Yeah I know. No war in Iraq, better domestic economics...

Yeah, Gore or Kerry might not have been good Presidents, but I'm having a hard time imagining they could have been worse.

[Chica Yeyé 41]

Every time, I want to beat Bush up for the things I disliked about his 8 years in office...

I consider the alternatives we were presented with.

Yeah I know. No war in Iraq, better domestic economics...

Yeah, Gore or Kerry might not have been good Presidents, but I'm having a hard time imagining they could have been worse.

Helll, Kermit the Frog would have done better.

[HAL 9000 96]

Every time, I want to beat Bush up for the things I disliked about his 8 years in office...

I consider the alternatives we were presented with.

Yeah I know. No war in Iraq, better domestic economics...

Yeah, Gore or Kerry might not have been good Presidents, but I'm having a hard time imagining they could have been worse.

Other than boring us to sleep... how could Gore have messed things up beyond continuing Clinton's surplus even more? And Kerry... well... if he succeeded Gore then I am sure he would have made us consume more French cheeses or something completely against Red Blooded America.

How awful.

[nowhereman 1]

Every time, I want to beat Bush up for the things I disliked about his 8 years in office...

I consider the alternatives we were presented with.

Yeah I know. No war in Iraq, better domestic economics...

Yeah, Gore or Kerry might not have been good Presidents, but I'm having a hard time imagining they could have been worse.

Helll, Kermit the Frog would have done better.

Gore would have been a good President IMO... Kerry would have been about as good (or bad) as Jimmy Carter. Either one would have been much better than Bush (which isn't saying much).

[Amby 490]

My favorite moment is when Cheney shot someone

[DeadPoolX 9]

Yeah... I probably wouldn't put any money on that given that historians tend to take into consideration the entire package... like the fallacy of the WMD argument as a good analytical starting point overshadowing the entire war.

I tend to think most historians are full of #######. What's written in history textbooks is usually BS or extremely one-sided. Want an example? I had a history textbook that spent nearly 20 pages on Women's Suffrage but only one paragraph on WWI. Far be it from me to judge some historian's take on what occurred in the past, but somehow I think WWI was a little more important in the grand scheme of things (if for no other reason, it indirectly led to WWII).

You don't get credit for fixing your own f**kup. That's not Bush-bashing, that's just Leadership 101. When you f**k up, you have failed at your job. When you fix your f**kup, you are doing the job you should have done in the first place.

I'd say it depends on the mistake, but on a national or international level, I might agree. I'm just wondering if the same consideration will be given to Obama when he does screw up. And he will too. No president can go one or two terms without screwing something up.

[tom&tata 2]

My favorite moment is when Cheney shot someone

Not when the person he shot apologized to him?

[spookyturtle 9,466]

Every time, I want to beat Bush up for the things I disliked about his 8 years in office...

I consider the alternatives we were presented with.

Yeah I know. No war in Iraq, better domestic economics...

Yeah, Gore or Kerry might not have been good Presidents, but I'm having a hard time imagining they could have been worse.

I don't see how either of them could have been worse.

[HAL 9000 96]

Yeah... I probably wouldn't put any money on that given that historians tend to take into consideration the entire package... like the fallacy of the WMD argument as a good analytical starting point overshadowing the entire war.

I tend to think most historians are full of #######. What's written in history textbooks is usually BS or extremely one-sided. Want an example? I had a history textbook that spent nearly 20 pages on Women's Suffrage but only one paragraph on WWI. Far be it from me to judge some historian's take on what occurred in the past, but somehow I think WWI was a little more important in the grand scheme of things (if for no other reason, it indirectly led to WWII).

You don't get credit for fixing your own f**kup. That's not Bush-bashing, that's just Leadership 101. When you f**k up, you have failed at your job. When you fix your f**kup, you are doing the job you should have done in the first place.

I'd say it depends on the mistake, but on a national or international level, I might agree. I'm just wondering if the same consideration will be given to Obama when he does screw up. And he will too. No president can go one or two terms without screwing something up.

Was that history book about American Civics/History by any chance? My though... that's quite a grand opinion you have of many historians.

[William33 110]

We've improved a lot since Katrina... and Bush can take some credit for this (in another thread someone said Bush never gets credit... well there you go). A leader should have vision... the ability to look into the future and make proactive changes in the present. Bush's failure with Katrina and in many other areas was due to a lack of vision. In my opinion the main reason he lacked vision was that for most of his administration he surrounded himself with yes men (e.g. Alberto Gonzales, Rumsfeld) & got rid of anyone with a different viewpoint (e.g. Powell, Shinseki). Later on Bush added people like SecDef Gates and actually listened to him, but it was too little too late.

You don't get credit for fixing your own f**kup. That's not Bush-bashing, that's just Leadership 101. When you f**k up, you have failed at your job. When you fix your f**kup, you are doing the job you should have done in the first place.

Agree on both bolded points! These are the fundamentals of leadership.

[Tahoma 2,292]

Yeah... I probably wouldn't put any money on that given that historians tend to take into consideration the entire package... like the fallacy of the WMD argument as a good analytical starting point overshadowing the entire war.

I tend to think most historians are full of #######. What's written in history textbooks is usually BS or extremely one-sided. Want an example? I had a history textbook that spent nearly 20 pages on Women's Suffrage but only one paragraph on WWI. Far be it from me to judge some historian's take on what occurred in the past, but somehow I think WWI was a little more important in the grand scheme of things (if for no other reason, it indirectly led to WWII).

You don't get credit for fixing your own f**kup. That's not Bush-bashing, that's just Leadership 101. When you f**k up, you have failed at your job. When you fix your f**kup, you are doing the job you should have done in the first place.

I'd say it depends on the mistake, but on a national or international level, I might agree. I'm just wondering if the same consideration will be given to Obama when he does screw up. And he will too. No president can go one or two terms without screwing something up.

Was that history book about American Civics/History by any chance? My though... that's quite a grand opinion you have of many historians.

I happen to know from personal experience that all history books are bad because I have read every single one of them. I am working my way through all of the American Civics books right now. So far, the first 10,000 or so have all been bad. I'll keep you posted.

[Tahoma 2,292]

Every time, I want to beat Bush up for the things I disliked about his 8 years in office...

I consider the alternatives we were presented with.

Yeah I know. No war in Iraq, better domestic economics...

HAL...how much do you pay these guys to pitch those slow floaters right over the plate?