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thye also tell them our azzzes get so big that we gonna kill them by crushing them during sexy time arrrghhh

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i have not read all of the responses but perviz was told that American women only marry for short time then take the man to court for big money in child support as a way to supplement her income :whistle:

Yet another reason for a hot younger MENA guy to marry a healthy, youthful over-40 American woman, not so much a chance of that happening.... :thumbs::whistle:


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i have not read all of the responses but perviz was told that American women only marry for short time then take the man to court for big money in child support as a way to supplement her income :whistle:

Yet another reason for a hot younger MENA guy to marry a healthy, youthful over-40 American woman, not so much a chance of that happening.... :thumbs::whistle:

I'm afraid you are unraveling the mystery pretty well... combine your reasoning with the fact that not many MENA men relish the idea of their children being raised by an American Non-Muslim mother, GOD FORBID, IN AMERICA!... and you have the perfect logic.. or the perfect STORM, depending on who you are in the relationship...

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i have not read all of the responses but perviz was told that American women only marry for short time then take the man to court for big money in child support as a way to supplement her income :whistle:

I can do that???? :dance::dance::dance::devil:

IF you can FIND HIM!!!! AND he has $$$$ AND you can get your hands on it...

I hear it's getting easier these days to collect child support... My son's father is getting his karma right now... he is freaking out because he left for Jordan recently without paying off all his back child support and he can't renew his passport over there until he "clears his account" with the State Support Enforcement Agency here... He's sending email to my son telling him to make me go and "clear his name" so he can come back to the USA... with his new 28 year old bride... (he'll be 51 in May). OH BOY Is that ever HIGH on my list of THINGS I'M DYING TO DO..... :innocent::devil:

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i have not read all of the responses but perviz was told that American women only marry for short time then take the man to court for big money in child support as a way to supplement her income :whistle:

I can do that???? :dance::dance::dance::devil:

IF you can FIND HIM!!!! AND he has $$$$ AND you can get your hands on it...

I hear it's getting easier these days to collect child support... My son's father is getting his karma right now... he is freaking out because he left for Jordan recently without paying off all his back child support and he can't renew his passport over there until he "clears his account" with the State Support Enforcement Agency here... He's sending email to my son telling him to make me go and "clear his name" so he can come back to the USA... with his new 28 year old bride... (he'll be 51 in May). OH BOY Is that ever HIGH on my list of THINGS I'M DYING TO DO..... :innocent::devil:

K is for KARMA!!!! And she is a b!tch. :thumbs: I love those stories. About 10 months ago, there was a Philipina chick in the K3 Forum crying her woe is me tale about how her husband can't apply/visit her in Manila right now because his passport is suspended for lack of child support payments. She was claiming how unfair it was. Well, the entire forum jumped allover her because she was trying to justify his tale. Ooooooh twas really, really ugly. :devil::devil::devil:

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No patience for a man that doesn't ensure his children are taken care of. Tells ya what his priorities were.....

And I"m his first EX, and my son is his first born... he has another Ex and 2 other sons who he hasn't supported either! Which goes to prove that any low life who's been in the USA for 30 years can waltz home and snag a "cute young thing" without ANY repercussions when he's good and ready.. (or he is completely broke, totally addicted, and his brothers here get sick of taking care of him and SEND him home....)

He left us when my son was 3 months old... (after I gave him the choice between us or partying) and before our divorce was final he had a new gf with a "bun in the oven"... We were divorced one month, they married the next, and they had their baby the next month... Funny mine took 9 months!

My Momma used to say "they leave you the way they found you"... I knew he had picked a "brain surgeon" when I heard he found a woman to knock up who would pick a man who had abandoned his newborn son and wife of 5 years to father her child... And sure enough... he left her for another... but never bothered to marry from then on because he was a USC by then......

Hezbi Allah................

Past performance is surely an indicator of future performance....

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K is for KARMA!!!! And she is a b!tch. :thumbs: I love those stories. About 10 months ago, there was a Philipina chick in the K3 Forum crying her woe is me tale about how her husband can't apply/visit her in Manila right now because his passport is suspended for lack of child support payments. She was claiming how unfair it was. Well, the entire forum jumped allover her because she was trying to justify his tale. Ooooooh twas really, really ugly. :devil::devil::devil:

I remember that. Man I was pizzed off :angry: Happy to say I was one of the above mentioned jumpers :ranting:

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K is for KARMA!!!! And she is a b!tch. :thumbs: I love those stories. About 10 months ago, there was a Philipina chick in the K3 Forum crying her woe is me tale about how her husband can't apply/visit her in Manila right now because his passport is suspended for lack of child support payments. She was claiming how unfair it was. Well, the entire forum jumped allover her because she was trying to justify his tale. Ooooooh twas really, really ugly. :devil::devil::devil:

I remember that. Man I was pizzed off :angry: Happy to say I was one of the above mentioned jumpers :ranting:

You and me both, hermana. You and me both! :ranting::thumbs::ranting::thumbs::ranting::thumbs:

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I hear it's getting easier these days to collect child support... My son's father is getting his karma right now... he is freaking out because he left for Jordan recently without paying off all his back child support and he can't renew his passport over there until he "clears his account" with the State Support Enforcement Agency here... He's sending email to my son telling him to make me go and "clear his name" so he can come back to the USA... with his new 28 year old bride... (he'll be 51 in May). OH BOY Is that ever HIGH on my list of THINGS I'M DYING TO DO..... :innocent::devil:

HaHa....love it.

Some cultures dont understand the concept of child support.

I finally got rid of the never ending money drain. I called the plumber, and got the problem fixed. I wish her the best.

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I hear it's getting easier these days to collect child support... My son's father is getting his karma right now... he is freaking out because he left for Jordan recently without paying off all his back child support and he can't renew his passport over there until he "clears his account" with the State Support Enforcement Agency here... He's sending email to my son telling him to make me go and "clear his name" so he can come back to the USA... with his new 28 year old bride... (he'll be 51 in May). OH BOY Is that ever HIGH on my list of THINGS I'M DYING TO DO..... :innocent::devil:

HaHa....love it.

Some cultures dont understand the concept of child support.

That is so true, but I'm guessing you are speaking of the wrong culture... IT IS OUR CULTURE, not MENA Culture that DOESN'T GET IT! Every disgusting trait my ex had he learned HERE. (except womanizing... he learned that from his father, back home....)

Had he practiced his faith (Islam), and followed his culture, (MENA) I'd probably be married to him today. He immersed himself TOTALLY in Western (USA) culture and completely turned his back on his faith and the predominant MENA culture. Westernized his name, hid his ethnic background as best he could, denied his heritage when he thought he could, and absorbed every foul habit he came across in this country. That's where he went wrong..

Islam requires men to support their children (particularly daughters) all of their lives.. (not just until 18) if they need help. In Egypt if a woman is divorced and her father dies, she can receive his pension, AT ANY AGE, for the REST of HER LIFE, if she isn't married.

And Islam encourages men to support their ex-wives if they can, and she needs support... (no family to take care of her, etc.) even if there are no children involved. If she is raising their children he is 100% responsible for their support... no pro-rating it based on each parties income, etc.

In a truly Islamic environment (not sure if there is one ANYWHERE on EARTH today), women are not responsible for their food, shelter, clothing, or any other basic necessity from the cradle to the grave. First their father, then husband, sons, brothers, or uncles are 100% responsible for their upkeep. And every penny they earn or inherit is for their OWN pocket. Any money they chose to spend on their children or husband, etc. is considered CHARITY and will be rewarded as such on the Judgement day.

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I hear it's getting easier these days to collect child support... My son's father is getting his karma right now... he is freaking out because he left for Jordan recently without paying off all his back child support and he can't renew his passport over there until he "clears his account" with the State Support Enforcement Agency here... He's sending email to my son telling him to make me go and "clear his name" so he can come back to the USA... with his new 28 year old bride... (he'll be 51 in May). OH BOY Is that ever HIGH on my list of THINGS I'M DYING TO DO..... :innocent::devil:

HaHa....love it.

Some cultures dont understand the concept of child support.

That is so true, but I'm guessing you are speaking of the wrong culture... IT IS OUR CULTURE, not MENA Culture that DOESN'T GET IT! Every disgusting trait my ex had he learned HERE. (except womanizing... he learned that from his father, back home....)

Had he practiced his faith (Islam), and followed his culture, (MENA) I'd probably be married to him today. He immersed himself TOTALLY in Western (USA) culture and completely turned his back on his faith and the predominant MENA culture. Westernized his name, hid his ethnic background as best he could, denied his heritage when he thought he could, and absorbed every foul habit he came across in this country. That's where he went wrong..

Islam requires men to support their children (particularly daughters) all of their lives.. (not just until 18) if they need help. In Egypt if a woman is divorced and her father dies, she can receive his pension, AT ANY AGE, for the REST of HER LIFE, if she isn't married.

And Islam encourages men to support their ex-wives if they can, and she needs support... (no family to take care of her, etc.) even if there are no children involved. If she is raising their children he is 100% responsible for their support... no pro-rating it based on each parties income, etc.

In a truly Islamic environment (not sure if there is one ANYWHERE on EARTH today), women are not responsible for their food, shelter, clothing, or any other basic necessity from the cradle to the grave. First their father, then husband, sons, brothers, or uncles are 100% responsible for their upkeep. And every penny they earn or inherit is for their OWN pocket. Any money they chose to spend on their children or husband, etc. is considered CHARITY and will be rewarded as such on the Judgement day.

K - I know where you're coming from - I've had many MENA guy friends who come to the US and give up the MENA way of life - they do change their names, eat haram foods - LOVE BACON!!!, smoke, drink, sleep around, and pray only during Ramadan and Eid - if they're lucky. I guess they're like what we call C&E christians - Christmas and Easter, so I'll call them R&E muslims. I know that these traits are learned here so in regards to not supporting one's children, do you think this has to do with the MENA man's lack of respect for the American woman and his children created with an American bride? Like, if he had not a Muslim wife, but a MENA wife, he would take care of her and the children, but because he doesn't perceive that there will be a recourse should he not provide - like family coming to hunt him down, shame and disgrace in his country, etc, that he doesn't feel the need to do jack. I'm wondering if it has to do with the whole perspective of his life with the American is just "temporary" and not a permanent relationship. These are just musings on all of this. I will say though that I do know many American men do pay full child support to their children and so do women, but also, when times get tough, as they have right now, people fall behind or they just don't care.

I had a temp job for about 3 months one time, working for an agency that processes child support payments for the State of Florida. When I heard the complaints of both the mothers and the fathers - who had paid or who hadn't been paid, it made my head spin. :wacko: I said to myself, I would like to play all these calls for anyone out there who is thinking about getting pregnant with someone who they don't have a committed relationship with or within a marriage where things are a little shaky - I said it would be the very best birth control, as the gal would just close her legs immediately or the guy would just put it back in his pants if they knew they were going to have to possibly deal with this situation for the rest of their child's 18 years.

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That is so true, but I'm guessing you are speaking of the wrong culture... IT IS OUR CULTURE, not MENA Culture that DOESN'T GET IT! Every disgusting trait my ex had he learned HERE. (except womanizing... he learned that from his father, back home....)

Had he practiced his faith (Islam), and followed his culture, (MENA) I'd probably be married to him today. He immersed himself TOTALLY in Western (USA) culture and completely turned his back on his faith and the predominant MENA culture. Westernized his name, hid his ethnic background as best he could, denied his heritage when he thought he could, and absorbed every foul habit he came across in this country. That's where he went wrong..

Islam requires men to support their children (particularly daughters) all of their lives.. (not just until 18) if they need help. In Egypt if a woman is divorced and her father dies, she can receive his pension, AT ANY AGE, for the REST of HER LIFE, if she isn't married.

And Islam encourages men to support their ex-wives if they can, and she needs support... (no family to take care of her, etc.) even if there are no children involved. If she is raising their children he is 100% responsible for their support... no pro-rating it based on each parties income, etc.

In a truly Islamic environment (not sure if there is one ANYWHERE on EARTH today), women are not responsible for their food, shelter, clothing, or any other basic necessity from the cradle to the grave. First their father, then husband, sons, brothers, or uncles are 100% responsible for their upkeep. And every penny they earn or inherit is for their OWN pocket. Any money they chose to spend on their children or husband, etc. is considered CHARITY and will be rewarded as such on the Judgement day.

well, I was speaking from my experience with Latin America, where the concept of child support is relatively new, and some men are shocked to find out that some court in Latin America has ordered child support.

You do have me confused, and please my ignorance of Islam, but I thought that if there is a divorce, that it is the man who makes the decisions regarding their children and are the custodial parent. The woman is shunned as if she was some kind of bimbo (maybe only in such places as Saudi....I dunno).

Anyway, child support here in the US is a legal matter, not a religious one although the willingness of a man to pay depends upon his moral character.

If you had a court order requiring child support, and he had a job, then it would have been possible to collect, and it still isnt too late. Sounds like someone is after him if they turned his name into the passport agency and he cant renew his passport.

I hope they get every penny out of him, as I cant tolerate deadbeats dads.

good luck

I finally got rid of the never ending money drain. I called the plumber, and got the problem fixed. I wish her the best.

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