Removing conditions + doing something agaisnt the law

[Mephys 2]

Just a quick question that might or might not have an answer.

We have my husband's family that lives 3 hours away. It has been a pain to try to schedule something with everybody and is kids for the past year. Now we all planned Christmas ahead, and it was said that we were driving there for the day only with the kids and the gifts for the traditionnal family dinner.

NOW plans have changed. An uncle that is the Manager at the local mall planned that eveyrbody would go to the closed mall and bring the food, and that the family reunion would be taking place there. Here's the deal : he cannot garantee that this is not agaisnt the law. The mall will be closed, and it's gonna be a personnal family reunion. He claims that he is 100% responsible for the whole mall while the owners are away, for opening and closing time, etc.

Now what if a police that is not happy to work on Christmas day decides to come and give us trouble, and that we find out we were not supposed to be there, and there is some sort of criminal charges for "breaking in and entering" a public place for everybody? His uncle claims that it is considered private property, hence that he is in the right to do this....

Sounds all fishy to me, and I am not ready to Jeopardize my GC renewal for a stupid family reunion. But what kind of problems could that cause me for the renewal?

We are probably not going to go, but I am curious.

Thanks

And Merry Christmas

[queendlee 0]

I would be careful about it, esp if you have doubts

[motu 5]

Absolutely its a foolish idea. Don't do it. Meet the family later on individually or jointly but do not take that chance. A mall can't be open for family gathering after hours - If I saw a crowd in a mall and the doors are closed, I will call the police too. This is extremely foolish - he thinks he has more authority than he probably does - also he may be fired if he does something like that. DON'T DO IT.

[SunDrop 59]

If he has keys, then you're not breaking and entering. HOWEVER, unless he's willing to show you his employment contract and the scope of which his 'use' of the mall out of hours extends to, I wouldn't want so much as a blip of arrest record to have to explain. I wouldn't do it either, it's not worth the risk...

[snakey_sabrina1972 0]

I'd still vote NO. Just meet them another time. You don't want to jeopardize anything. But if you decide to do it, just make sure it is legal. Goodluck and Merry Christmas.

[*JG* 2]

I think if he lets you in, it's not your problem if you are caught. It's his.

I can tell you a little about breaking a law and still getting the 10 year green card. Had some experience. PM if you have any questions.

[Old Dominion 26]

Many malls have rent-free community rooms or similar places in mall restaurants for meetings, dinners, etc. On the other hand, it's too much of a risk to be there when the mall is closed, there is no mall security staff around, and only the uncle's word for it that the owners are OK with this idea.

[Zayd 0]

If he has keys, then you're not breaking and entering. HOWEVER, unless he's willing to show you his employment contract and the scope of which his 'use' of the mall out of hours extends to, I wouldn't want so much as a blip of arrest record to have to explain. I wouldn't do it either, it's not worth the risk...

While it may not count as breaking and entering, it MAY still be criminal trespass. Whether or not your would be charged depends on whether a reasonable person in the same situation considered it illegal. If i tell you a house is mine but I need to break the door down to get in, a reasonable person would not believe such an explanation and you most likely would be charged if you were found on the property. If I were you, I would not listen to your uncle and would avoid the situation whether I was waiting for a green card or was a full citizen.

[Mephys 2]

Alright, well here's what happened. His uncle is actually the Operations manager, or something like that. He is the once that coordinates any activity or rental or whatever you name it at that mall. It's also a small town where everybody knows everybody (except us since we are not living in the same state). And after a long conversation about technicalities and liabilities, his uncle flat out said " Well I can call the police officer that is working at the moment so he can come talk to you and reassure you that everything is legal, because I know him"

So because it was a big gathering for his grandma that has been sick over the past few months, and EVERYBODY in the family was there, we decided to stay... Everything was ok, and they also understood my situtation, but it was still odd.

[J&D 0]

Happy everything worked out. It was understandable to initally have concerns though.

[nowthatimetu 0]

I think if he lets you in, it's not your problem if you are caught. It's his.

I can tell you a little about breaking a law and still getting the 10 year green card. Had some experience. PM if you have any questions.

HI,

saw this and wondered if my hubby the one applying is ok and do we need to answer part 3 question 7 as a yes for arrested, if he was arrested for "public intoxication" . all we had to do was go to court and pay fine. so just want to answer question correctly.

thanks!