The Right Wing's Latest Argument Against Public Health Care -- We'd Like It Too Much

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Marc,

Why didn't you have your own personal doctor?

If you only had a real skillset, you could get yourself a real job and afford one.

Loser!

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Marc,

Why didn't you have your own personal doctor?

If you only had a real skillset, you could get yourself a real job and afford one.

Loser!

I dont reside in Brazil!

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Marc,

Why didn't you have your own personal doctor?

If you only had a real skillset, you could get yourself a real job and afford one.

Loser!

I dont reside in Brazil!

So?

I'm not even trying to make sense. This is liberating.

[Empress of Groovy 373]

She died in her home just after coming home from a public health facility! She collapsed on her mother from massive internal bleeding, but of course the anti-biotics they gave her for it, didnt help!

Have some STRAW,man.

That's terribly sad, but that sort of thing happens in the U.S. all the time. A major difference between many countries and the U.S. is that here, not only are grieving family members dealing with the loss of a loved one, but also medical bills. If we're going to pull from anecdotes, my stepmother was paying medical bills related to my dad's esophageal cancer care for years after he died. This was 10 years ago, and they had what they thought was decent insurance through my stepmother's employer. I can only imagine what equivalent expenses would be now. Much of the bills were from repeated emergency room visits for complications from chemo, and a staph infection that he picked up in the hospital. He died after 14 months of aggressive chemo and radiation treatments, and terrible suffering. This, in the most glorious (and expensive) healthcare system in the world! Imagine receiving bills from the hospital that failed to save your spouse. Or indeed your child? A good friend of mine lost her 8-year-old son to cancer in 1994 after three heartbreaking years of illness and deterioration, and she would have gone bankrupt from medical expenses had it not been for the help of her family and numerous local charities (only one still exists). Should parents of critically ill children have to hold bake sales for their children's treatment? Here they do. What kind of society allows for this? One that has deluded itself into thinking that people should simply fend for themselves and that whatever is being charged in the free market is somehow fair. And people who blindly believe that our system is superior simply because it's more expensive.

Private, for-profit care does not equal better care, it equals more expensive care that suits few at the literal and figurative expense of many. This system f*cks many more people than it helps, as compared with universal systems that are free at the point of care.

The ppl your talking about would get: Go home theres nothing we can do! Carols mom died of a simple intestinal bleed! She was misdiagnosed because of the fcking line of ppl waiting to be served!

Again, same in the U.S. Emergency departments across the country are overburdened, resulting in misdiagnoses that can have fatal outcomes. It's terrible and tragic. My point was that this sort of thing happens in the U.S. all the time. The difference is that here, at the end of it, someone (usually a grieving family member) is often stuck with a giant bill no matter what the outcome.

Edited December 25, 2008 by Big Agnes!

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

She died in her home just after coming home from a public health facility! She collapsed on her mother from massive internal bleeding, but of course the anti-biotics they gave her for it, didnt help!

Have some STRAW,man.

That's terribly sad, but that sort of thing happens in the U.S. all the time. A major difference between many countries and the U.S. is that here, not only are grieving family members dealing with the loss of a loved one, but also medical bills. If we're going to pull from anecdotes, my stepmother was paying medical bills related to my dad's esophageal cancer care for years after he died. This was 10 years ago, and they had what they thought was decent insurance through my stepmother's employer. I can only imagine what equivalent expenses would be now. Much of the bills were from repeated emergency room visits for complications from chemo, and a staph infection that he picked up in the hospital. He died after 14 months of aggressive chemo and radiation treatments, and terrible suffering. This, in the most glorious (and expensive) healthcare system in the world! Imagine receiving bills from the hospital that failed to save your spouse. Or indeed your child? A good friend of mine lost her 8-year-old son to cancer in 1994 after three heartbreaking years of illness and deterioration, and she would have gone bankrupt from medical expenses had it not been for the help of her family and numerous local charities (only one still exists). Should parents of critically ill children have to hold bake sales for their children's treatment? Here they do. What kind of society allows for this? One that has deluded itself into thinking that people should simply fend for themselves and that whatever is being charged in the free market is somehow fair. And people who blindly believe that our system is superior simply because it's more expensive.

Private, for-profit care does not equal better care, it equals more expensive care that suits few at the literal and figurative expense of many. This system f*cks many more people than it helps, as compared with universal systems that are free at the point of care.

The ppl your talking about would get: Go home theres nothing we can do! Carols mom died of a simple intestinal bleed! She was misdiagnosed because of the fcking line of ppl waiting to be served!

Again, same in the U.S. Emergency departments across the country are overburdened, resulting in misdiagnoses that result in fatal errors. It's terrible, and tragic. My point was that this sort of thing happens in the U.S. all the time. The difference is that here, at the end of it, someone (usually a grieving family member) is often stuck with a giant bill no matter what the outcome.

Your right the bill is more important!

Marc,

Why didn't you have your own personal doctor?

If you only had a real skillset, you could get yourself a real job and afford one.

Loser!

I dont reside in Brazil!

So?

I'm not even trying to make sense. This is liberating.

Put your pants back on AJ!

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

No!

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

I ain't goin there knowing you it's probably hella weird

[William33 110]

Rogue....

Being Christmas and all, that now invisible post will slide.

Be nice.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

I ain't goin there knowing you it's probably hella weird

Its a joke bud!

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Rogue....

Being Christmas and all, that now invisible post will slide.

Be nice.

WOW! im bein watched! Willie you like this song? I had it up from ex-pats! Merry xmas Pal!

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

Marc,

Why didn't you have your own personal doctor?

If you only had a real skillset, you could get yourself a real job and afford one.

Loser!

Spoken like a #######.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Marc,

Why didn't you have your own personal doctor?

If you only had a real skillset, you could get yourself a real job and afford one.

Loser!

Spoken like a #######.

You know it

Edited December 25, 2008 by A.J.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Marc,

Why didn't you have your own personal doctor?

If you only had a real skillset, you could get yourself a real job and afford one.

Loser!

Spoken like a #######.

You know it

AJ has got a chip! Funny to watch actually.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Well Marc, Rich, William, et al. I'm out for the night. Merry Christmas.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

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