National life-cycle (and pie)

[KGSodie 0]

"Great nations rise and fall. The people go from bondage to spiritual truth, to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency, from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependence, from dependence back again to bondage."

The author of this quote is, I believe, anonymous, though quite astute (IMO).

Discuss amongst yourselves - I'm a little verklempt.

Pie, however, follows a different life-cycle. It goes from raw ingredients, to assembled possibility, to hot deliciousness, to excreted waste, to processed sewage, to fertilizer, and then back to raw ingredients.

[1HappyGuy 45]

Each to his own. If you subscribe to the premise that we all are bound by our societal norms, then our choices are already predetermined. I however, believe that each person has the ability to choose for themselves and although they may be constricted by their economic and social situation, we have the ability to make a difference for ourselves and those that matter to us.

Never give up hope.

[slim 1,525]

Well, how about this - does one's socio-economic status relegate them to consuming only certain types of pie? NO! Pie knows no bounds! It doesn't say "I'm pie for white folks" or "I'm only for the rich."

"Middle Class pie" is never heard. "Blue-collar pie" is non-existent as well.

Pie says, "I'm freaking pie, and you should eat me."

[KGSodie 0]

How rude of the pie! The pie can just eat me too!

[Melissa&Vadim 0]

"Great nations rise and fall. The people go from bondage to spiritual truth, to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency, from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependence, from dependence back again to bondage."

The author of this quote is, I believe, anonymous, though quite astute (IMO).

Discuss amongst yourselves - I'm a little verklempt.

Pie, however, follows a different life-cycle. It goes from raw ingredients, to assembled possibility, to hot deliciousness, to excreted waste, to processed sewage, to fertilizer, and then back to raw ingredients.

[Melissa&Vadim 0]

"Great nations rise and fall. The people go from bondage to spiritual truth, to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency, from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependence, from dependence back again to bondage."

The author of this quote is, I believe, anonymous, though quite astute (IMO).

Discuss amongst yourselves - I'm a little verklempt.

Pie, however, follows a different life-cycle. It goes from raw ingredients, to assembled possibility, to hot deliciousness, to excreted waste, to processed sewage, to fertilizer, and then back to raw ingredients.

"Great nations rise and fall. The people go from bondage to spiritual truth, to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency, from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependence, from dependence back again to bondage."

Pie, however, follows a different life-cycle. It goes from raw ingredients, to assembled possibility, to hot deliciousness, to excreted waste, to processed sewage, to fertilizer, and then back to raw ingredients.

Well, IMHO... I believe the quote was based on Democracies. Even in the case of Democracies, this isn't always the case. It's dangerous to try to classify anything into an always/never category. The quote seems a little depressing, if not cynical. It sounds more like a plot line, or characterization, for certain tragic heroes in literature (in fact, I think it is a great quote to use for high school English students to write a Critical Lens Essay, LOL).

If one chooses any state of being in the quote, it doesn't necessarily lead to the next state. Take the pie example; "assembled possibility" doesn't necessarily lead to "hot deliciousness," just as "selfishness" doesn't necessarily lead to "complacency," and "courage," unfortunately, doesn't always lead to "liberty." I am left wondering why it is so difficult to find the author of this quote.

[mox 298]

"Great nations rise and fall. The people go from bondage to spiritual truth, to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency, from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependence, from dependence back again to bondage."

The author of this quote is, I believe, anonymous, though quite astute (IMO).

Discuss amongst yourselves - I'm a little verklempt.

Pie, however, follows a different life-cycle. It goes from raw ingredients, to assembled possibility, to hot deliciousness, to excreted waste, to processed sewage, to fertilizer, and then back to raw ingredients.

I keep trying to think of something witty to say, but all I can really come up with is "I agree." It's in the human character that we are both resourceful and greedy. When put to the test, we can be great, but we can be greedy and act against our own self interests too. The quote applies perfectly to just about any government type you care to mention, but it's equally applicable to the stages of life itself. We start out in bondage, and eventually we're right back there again.

I'm inclined to agree with Slim regarding pie. The pie knows no class, no borders, no society, no...no..nom nom nom nom nom...