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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Thailand
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Posted
  jjjjjohn said:
Today I sent in the I-130 packet to begin the K3 process. I double and triple checked everything but as I was browsing the forums afterwards, someone raised a question about K3 vs CR1. Apparently, CR1 only takes a month or so longer and you won't have to deal with AOS afterwards. My wife is from Thailand and she just finished her final year in college. Around this time next year she has to go back for graduation with her king, which is very important to her but it will take a couple months and I will also be going with her. With this in mind would a K3 or CR1 be better in my case? Since I have already sent the K3 packet can I drop that and start CR1?

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Service Center : Vermont Service Center

Consulate : Bangkok, Thailand

Marriage : 2006-11-08

I-130 Sent : 2008-02-22

I-130 NOA1 : 2008-03-10

I-129F Sent : 2008-04-08

I-129F NOA1 : 2008-04-14

I-129F touched: 2008-05-06

I-130 touched: 2008-05-09

I-129F approved 2008-09-05

I-130 approved 2008-09-05

NVC received 2008-09-12

Pay I-864 2008-10-08

Pay IV bill 2008-10-08

Receive Instruction 2008-11-05

Case Complete 2008-11-18

Medical 2009-01-19/20 passed

Receive Pkt 4 2009-01-30

Interview 221g 2009-02-23

Second interview 2009-03-02 Approved

POE DFW 2009-03-07

Received SS card 2009-03-17

Received GC 2009-04-01

Done for 3 years or 10 years. Haven't decided yet.

(I'm going for the IR-1 and blowing off the K-3. Even if it takes an extra couple months, it's worth it to not have to deal with USCIS again)

"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

Note:

Please fill out I-130, wait 6 months for approval, then 3 more months for an interview. (Unless of course we've bombed your country into the stone age, then you qualify for expedited processing.)

Welcome to the USA!!!

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Thailand
Timeline
Posted
  Haole said:
  jjjjjohn said:
ah ok, which one should I do though.

Take your pick!

CRs are immigrant visas and receive their GC and SS card in the mail shortly after arriving in the US.

No need to go thru the $1010 cost, stress and hassle of doing the AOS. No need another interview or do biometrics.

K3s are nonimmigrant visas and have to go thru AOS. It can take a LONG time to get GC. Can be denied and deported also. Rare but the chance is still there.

If the relationship or petitioner goes "belly up" before the beneficiary has GC in hand they stand an excellent chance of being deported.

At this time if done properly it only takes about a month longer to do the CR-1 or IR-1.

The CR-1 receipient can almost immediately work, get drivers license, joint bank accounts, and anything else where a GC and SS card are required .

K3 visas have to wait at about 3 months for EAD so they can get a SSN.

Where do you see it takes "about a month longer' to get a CR-1 vs. a K-3? Looking at the "immigration timelines" on VJ shows the most recent data on K-3's is averaging 213 days from I130 to interview and the CR-1 is averaging 344 days. More like four and a half months difference. If that four months is not an issue, by all means the CR-1 is a much superior visa (no AOS, work immediately).

A CR-1 will still have the expense of lifting conditions two years after arrival. My wife came on a K-3 with no intention to work. So it got her here quicker. She could get a DL (this is state dependent), she was on our joint checking account without having a SSN or GC. We waited until we were within four months of our 2nd wedding anniversary to file AOS. She got a 10 yr GC as a result (instead of 2 yr GC). So we had the $1,010 expense of AOS, but did not pay the IV bill to NVC ($355) nor will we have the expense of lifting conditions ($545).

The only issue was in filing taxes. Last year we had to file with an ITIN number for her which delayed the refund by about 10 weeks. This year I had to file an extension to wait until her EAD was approved and an SSN issued (this was to obtain the Bush tax check). Minor issues compared to being together as soon as possible.

K-3

11/15/2006 - NOA1 Receipt for 129F

02/12/2007 - I-130 and I-129F approved!

04/17/2007 - Interview - visa approved!

04/18/2007 - POE LAX - Finally in the USA!!!

04/19/2007 - WE ARE FINALLY HOME!!!

09/20/2007 - Sent Packet 3 for K-4 Visas (follow to join for children)

10/02/2007 - K-4 Interviews - approved

10/12/2007 - Everyone back to USA!

AOS

06/20/2008 - Mailed I-485, I-765 (plus I-130 for children)

06/27/2008 - NOA1 for I-485, I-765, and I-130s

07/16/2008 - Biometrics appointment

08/28/2008 - EAD cards received

11/20/2008 - AOS Interviews - approved

Citizenship

08/22/2011 - Mailed N-400

Filed: Other Country: China
Timeline
Posted (edited)
  rin and john said:
  Haole said:
  jjjjjohn said:
ah ok, which one should I do though.

Take your pick!

CRs are immigrant visas and receive their GC and SS card in the mail shortly after arriving in the US.

No need to go thru the $1010 cost, stress and hassle of doing the AOS. No need another interview or do biometrics.

K3s are nonimmigrant visas and have to go thru AOS. It can take a LONG time to get GC. Can be denied and deported also. Rare but the chance is still there.

If the relationship or petitioner goes "belly up" before the beneficiary has GC in hand they stand an excellent chance of being deported.

At this time if done properly it only takes about a month longer to do the CR-1 or IR-1.

The CR-1 receipient can almost immediately work, get drivers license, joint bank accounts, and anything else where a GC and SS card are required .

K3 visas have to wait at about 3 months for EAD so they can get a SSN.

Where do you see it takes "about a month longer' to get a CR-1 vs. a K-3? Looking at the "immigration timelines" on VJ shows the most recent data on K-3's is averaging 213 days from I130 to interview and the CR-1 is averaging 344 days. More like four and a half months difference. If that four months is not an issue, by all means the CR-1 is a much superior visa (no AOS, work immediately).

A CR-1 will still have the expense of lifting conditions two years after arrival. My wife came on a K-3 with no intention to work. So it got her here quicker. She could get a DL (this is state dependent), she was on our joint checking account without having a SSN or GC. We waited until we were within four months of our 2nd wedding anniversary to file AOS. She got a 10 yr GC as a result (instead of 2 yr GC). So we had the $1,010 expense of AOS, but did not pay the IV bill to NVC ($355) nor will we have the expense of lifting conditions ($545).

The only issue was in filing taxes. Last year we had to file with an ITIN number for her which delayed the refund by about 10 weeks. This year I had to file an extension to wait until her EAD was approved and an SSN issued (this was to obtain the Bush tax check). Minor issues compared to being together as soon as possible.

A more accurate assertion would be that for many countries, if handled in the most efficient manner, a CR1 timeline can usually be managed to be only a matter of a few weeks longer than a K3 timeline. There are certainly quite a few exceptions. Perhaps the most obvious is anybody filing for a spouse who will interview in Montreal. The "handled in the most efficient manner" is a key issue as well. If you let NVC work at their own speed and wait for everything in the mail, you'll likely add a couple months to the immigrant visa process. When one compares actual historical timelines, you see all the people who wait things out or use attorneys that wait things out plus delay things with their own unresponsiveness.

Edited by pushbrk

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