Why do I need 2 hardship letters to go with the I 601?

[mary&tom 0]

Yeah Mary I kind of forgot about that. I guess I might want to keep my mouth shut when it comes to what I think. You try to help out and give someone your opinion and if your wrong you feel bad. It's kind of your &^%&^% if you do and &^&*^ it you don't.

Baileyj

no.. don't keep your mouth shut.... we just have to realize that anything can happen with this process. don't take anything for granted. i just wish this process hadn't beaten me up so badly because right now i am having a very difficult time doing what needs to be done to get me back to the UK. every time I start to work on my fiancee application my stomach goes into knots. starting all over again at square one is no fun at all.

mary

[irishgirl73 0]

Ok so since gav has two drunk & disorderly charges-should he write some sort of letter explaining them? I hate that on ds156 you have to check the box where it says "have you ever been arrested, charged for any offense or crime?" I mean litter compared to prostitution/distributing a controlled substance?

I assume that they will give him a chance to explain the charges-right?

[Baileyj96 0]

Hey guys I wasn't trying to be snotty when I said I would just keep my mouth shut. It's just so hard to try to help someone out and give them information. I would never intentionally give someone false information and I would hate it if I misled someone. Like Mary said this part of the process is so impossible to explain and so different for each person. . It's not cut and dry and different in so many ways. What is required of one person isn't always the same case for another (same goes for each embassy). There are so many different ways to interpret each and every thing. All anyone can do to try to help is to share what has happened to them during this process. It's so hard to answer someone who ask....."will I need a waiver" All you can do is give your opinion and hope you can help them decide what will be best for themselves.

Irishgirl. I think they will review all his paperwork. Check the police report and then probably ask him a few questions about it. Oh poop and I was going to keep my mouth shut.

Good luck guys and girls.

Baileyj........vicky

[sharky 2]

Hi everyone,

well the topic still rages on......

All advice from previous posters is EXTREMELY valuable as we all know, but like Vicky said it may be mis-interpreted by others as it is not particularly releven to them. A perfect example is when discussing nathmc31's case, he'll be going through Sydney, and therefore will he need two hardship letters or not??...............the answer being we don't know unless he talks to someone who has gone through there.

But as Vicky and I have have both said before, as far as we are aware London is the only Embassy we know of that requires TWO hardship letters.

As far as getting in to that clause on multiple convictions and the term of confinement.............. I would be very careful in relying on something like this. I was naive enough to think that this clause would also mean that I wouldn't have to file a waiver..........but when it comes down to it, the judgement lies with the immigration officer behind the glass screen in the embassy......... and my guy (who was very nice by the way, very helpful when you've been waiting in the embassy for 5 hours to be seen!) clearly stated THAT CONVICTIONS OF MORE THAN ONE CONSTITUTED A WAIVER, now he did also mention that my earlier crime constituted CIMT, so maybe it was a combination of both.... who knows?

what I'm trying to say is it's down to this officer, and whoever interviewed poor liam was a complete d#ck!! because there is no way they should have ok'd him, only to have him go through the hell of being sent back from Dublin POE. I guess they realised they'd made a huge mistake by fast tracking his I-601 to the top of the pile.

Irish girl, once again (I think, and it's only my personal opinion) that you won't need one, as the crimes do sound very minor indeed (I mean littering!!! come on!), but some officer may turn round and say "multiple convictions.............waiver needed", who knows???........... but if you don't want to add on a month to your waiting time (if you need to file) then prepare a waiver.

The waiver itself is just a simple form to fill in, and then you need to include your hardship letter, stating why the USC cannot live in the foreign fiance's country. As previously said London specifically requires that the USC RECOGNISES the reasons for why the waiver needs to be filed, therefore you need to state it, but that's London (not Sydney). Of course it must be very daunting to try and write reasons when you are both perfectly healthy and have no kids together, but in this case look at the examples post in immigrate2us.net, they even give examples of waivers that WERE NOT successful...

so there is help out there for both of you, it's really up to you though to decide whether you want to have a waiver prepared or not!

sorry for rambling, only trying to help.........our waiver was succesful (thank god) as I'm sure Tiff's, Beetee's and Vicky's will be

keeping my fingers crossed for all of you

[irishgirl73 0]

Thanks Vicky & Paul

I am going to write a hardship letter just in case(as I mentioned before-we have had the WORST luck so I would like to be prepared just in case). I hope that even though we had to "check" that he was arrested-they realize that he is not a prostitute or a drug dealer

you guys are the best-thanks for sharing!

Colleen