CANCEL CHRISTMAS, JESUS NOT BORN DEC.25TH.

[bhajishah 4]

Romans Romans Romans.. alwyas trying to steal prophets , books and make them thier own..

[jundp 191]

Which is why we should make every effort to teach our kids it's about family and being together and not getting "stuff."

[Scott & Lai 12]

Do people really care? It's more of a spiritual Holiday than anything else in my opinion.

Diana

I'm not sure what that means...guess it depends on what is meant by "spiritual." As a Christian, I believe Christmas is about the birth of a very real baby (who happens to be God in the flesh) in a very real, physical place, in ordinary, earthy history.

I thought we all knew Jesus wasn't born on this date and the church just took over this date to coincide with the pagan festival of the winter solstice. Kind of like Easter being around the time of pagan fertility festivals, etc.

Many assume that, but I don't think the case for it is any where near as solid as it is believed. As for Easter, it's timing, at least originally, was based on an historical event, the crucifixion of Jesus, which occurred during the Jewish Passover. It had nothing to do with pagan fertility festivals.

[Scott & Lai 12]

But Christmas is becoming more commercial and even anti-Christ every year, can't even say Merry Christmas anymore. Wife and I went to three stores looking for a nativity for our tree was told they don't even handle them anymore. Could only ask, was Jesus fired!

Try finding explicitly Christian Christmas cards; they are becoming scarcer each year.

[NickD 202]

Do people really care? It's more of a spiritual Holiday than anything else in my opinion.

Diana

I'm not sure what that means...guess it depends on what is meant by "spiritual." As a Christian, I believe Christmas is about the birth of a very real baby (who happens to be God in the flesh) in a very real, physical place, in ordinary, earthy history.

I thought we all knew Jesus wasn't born on this date and the church just took over this date to coincide with the pagan festival of the winter solstice. Kind of like Easter being around the time of pagan fertility festivals, etc.

Many assume that, but I don't think the case for it is any where near as solid as it is believed. As for Easter, it's timing, at least originally, was based on an historical event, the crucifixion of Jesus, which occurred during the Jewish Passover. It had nothing to do with pagan fertility festivals.

Oh, that church calendar, hardly get over the joy of Christmas when Ash Wednesday pops up, then time to think about making reparations for sin. But what about the precise day for Good Friday that is based on Easter Sunday, and the forty days before?

Easter, considered the most important day of the church year is based on the first Sunday, after a full moon, after the equinox. Hardly the precise same day the first Easter occurred. And what does all this have to do with the precise location of the earth in relationship to the sun? Some scientific evidence is popping up that our species originated in Mars, a much older planet in our same solar system that certainly has a different calendar.

Some feel that Christ suffered and died for our sins, so they have a free ride by accepting him, while others feel our lives should be based on sharing with the sufferings of Christ, quite the opposite view on the same subject. But our congress made Christmas day a national holiday, and called it Christmas day, June 24, 1870 by the request of the president at the time, Ulysses S. Grant. That can be changed at any time, not written in stone.

Ha, do wish at times Christmas was on a different date. Property taxes, home and auto insurance, college tuition, and even a dog license is due at the same time, IRS says it's the start of a new year, have to close the books, and start this mad cycle all over again, kind of takes the joy away from Christmas, sometimes, had to give when the government takes it all away from you. But maybe that is what makes their Christmas, merry.