Women arrested for wearing Hijab in traffic court!

[doodlebugg 10]

I love how people automatically bash someone who wears hijab for being human. I wear hijab...does that mean that I have to be sin-free 100% of the time? I don't wear it to say "hey look at me..I'm a saint!". I wear it because I truly believe that I'm supposed to wear it and yes I would now feel naked if I took it off. A woman at the registry of motor vehicles asked me to take it off and I refused and she then said "is it for religious reasons?" (duh!) and when I nodded she said ok. Let me tell you I would have cursed like a truck driver if I were given a wicked hard time about it. So what? I see people who go to church every single day who have flipped the bird in traffic. We're human people, not sin-free.

Apparently she attempted several times to get into that courthouse. Who's to say what happened to make her utter some profanity? Maybe the guard pushed her a little to keep her out? We don't know the whole story but I agree it's so sad that we down the victim without knowing all the facts, though the fact that we DO know is that this court policy is bs in a country where we supposedly have freedom of religion.

[~PalmTreeGurl~ 154]

this article had nothing to do with the fact she is black or even stated whether or not where she was born or from.

I know what its like to be in a home where you dress head to toe nearly covered. Been there done that for most my young adult life, I also know that cursing to get your point across never does. And whether she was wearing hijab or not - anyone that curses in the courtroom would be arrested.

[UmmSqueakster 54]

Also, who cares what would happen if she did this in the middle east? She's not middle eastern. She's an american, married to an american, most likely a convert who's ancestors were brought here against their will in chains. What a middle eastern country does or does not do should have no bearing on how an american court treats an american citizen.

[UmmSqueakster 54]

What was she really arrested for?

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/sto...age_tab_newstab

Lisa Valentine, also known by her Islamic name, Miedah, 40, was arrested at the Douglasville Municipal Court for violating a court policy of no headgear, said Chris Womack, deputy chief of operations for the Douglasville Police Department.

Hmm, according to someone at the police department, she was arrested for not removing her scarf, not for swearing.

[doodlebugg 10]

hmm seems as though if shes more worried about outward modesty than what comes outta her mouth. Cursing is what got her arrested it seems. She could have explained her situation to the judge instead of cursing them out.

It doesnt matter how modest you dress on the outside, if you dont have good words coming out of your mouth then it doesnt mean a thing.

That's exactly what I've learned living in the ME. The hypocrites here seem to think that wearing a headscarf excuses the most foul behavior and speech imaginable. And using foul language would get you arrested and fined in the ME as well. I hope she gets a huge fine for her stupidity, arrogance and hypocrisy.

rofl I so expected this from you. I love how you periodically come here to drop bombs and then never reply to anyone's response to you.

[Der Bücherwurm 1]

Well, humtydumty some people actually have lives. But hanging out in cyberspace seems to be the extent of yours. The fact of the matter is, religious nutters have been cramming their religion in people's faces for centuries, often violently, without caring what others think. Then they cry wolf and/or scream bloody murder over the slightest little inconvenience placed upon them for a change. I've never heard of anyone even being allowed to wear a hat in a courthouse so why should exceptions be made in this instance? I don't think a person should be allowed to wear a headscarf to get a driver's license either for that matter, when one wouldn't be able to wear a mask or some other disguise that defeats the purpose of identification. The twit should have either removed the scarf or left. It's as simple as that. Cursing like a little ingrate did nothing for her cause and I hope she gets charged with contempt.

[Der Bücherwurm 1]

this article had nothing to do with the fact she is black or even stated whether or not where she was born or from.

I know what its like to be in a home where you dress head to toe nearly covered. Been there done that for most my young adult life, I also know that cursing to get your point across never does. And whether she was wearing hijab or not - anyone that curses in the courtroom would be arrested.

Exactly. But everyone today is trying to obtain victimhood status because you get so much for so little effort by being a victim. Sadly, sometimes you even get famous for it. And one thing you can always count on is the media to spin things and make more out of something than there really is. If you want to be treated equally then you have to behave equally. The same rules should apply to all regardless of their choice of religion. It's a shame this individual chose to make the wrong decision and speak in a foul manner. If I cursed at an officer anywhere, I'd be arrested whether it was inside a courtroom or anywhere else. Likewise, if I had on a hat or bandana in a govt. building and refused to remove it when asked I'd expect to be searched or asked to leave. Something is being made out of nothing. This shouldn't have even made the news.

[UmmSqueakster 54]

Since the statement that Quakers refused to take off their hats in court was obviously ignored, let's look at it further, shall we?

From Littell's Living Age:

The first occasion on which the Quaker's hat came publicly and officially into trouble was at the Launceston Assizes in the year 1656, before no less a person than Chief-Justice Glynn. "When we were brought into the court," says Fox, "we stood a pretty while with our hats on, and all was quiet, and I was moved to say, 'Peace be amongst you!' 'Why do you not put your hats off?' said the judge to us. We said nothing. 'Put off your hats,' said the judge again. Still we said nothing. Then said the judge, 'The court commands you to put off your hats.'" George Fox, with amazing simplicity, asked for some Scriptural instances of any magistrate commanding prisoners to put off their hats. He next asked to be shown, "either printed or written, any law of England that did command such a thing." Then the judge grew very angry, and said, "I do not carry my law-books on my back." "But," said Fox, "tell me where it is printed in any statute-book, that I may read it." The chief-justice cried out "Prevaricator!" and ordered the Quakers to be taken away.

...

These first public prosecutions for the sake of the hat happened in 1656. In the following year John ap John was put in prison at Tenby for wearing his hat in the church.

From my cursory, google based research, the practice of taking off one's hat in the court can be traced back to hat honor. In colonial times, one was required to doff their hat to their social superior. The person removing their hat was honoring someone who was superior to them.

So look at this in the modern concept. If a muslim woman keeps her scarf on, is she doing so to dishonor the court? No, she is doing so for modesty's sake, and because her own religious beliefs require her to cover her head, just as anyone else would feel it necessary to wear a shirt.

[doodlebugg 10]

Well, humtydumty some people actually have lives. But hanging out in cyberspace seems to be the extent of yours. The fact of the matter is, religious nutters have been cramming their religion in people's faces for centuries, often violently, without caring what others think. Then they cry wolf and/or scream bloody murder over the slightest little inconvenience placed upon them for a change. I've never heard of anyone even being allowed to wear a hat in a courthouse so why should exceptions be made in this instance? I don't think a person should be allowed to wear a headscarf to get a driver's license either for that matter, when one wouldn't be able to wear a mask or some other disguise that defeats the purpose of identification. The twit should have either removed the scarf or left. It's as simple as that. Cursing like a little ingrate did nothing for her cause and I hope she gets charged with contempt.

Actually I do have a life but when I post a flame enducing statement I would at least have the good sense to actually respond to people who have comments on it. Otherwise you just look like a sad little troll.

I get that you hate religion but at least learn a little about it before you go bashing it. The fact that you don't know the difference between asking some guy with a hat on and a woman wearing hijab says it all.

[Ban Hammer 13,716]

[sara..... 371]

ok someone plz explain it to me my bad english must be missing something but i understand it to say she never made it into the court was stopped before interring, so when she said this is bs the bailiff took her before the judge, did the judge then demand that she remove the hijab and throw her in jail at that time for contempt of court?

if thats the case then there is a huge problem right?

[SaadBell 0]

Only in America, let people wear what they want, look below and tell me if you never seen that on the street in broad daylight.

[notime4haterz 0]

I love how people automatically bash someone who wears hijab for being human. I wear hijab...does that mean that I have to be sin-free 100% of the time? I don't wear it to say "hey look at me..I'm a saint!". I wear it because I truly believe that I'm supposed to wear it and yes I would now feel naked if I took it off. A woman at the registry of motor vehicles asked me to take it off and I refused and she then said "is it for religious reasons?" (duh!) and when I nodded she said ok. Let me tell you I would have cursed like a truck driver if I were given a wicked hard time about it. So what? I see people who go to church every single day who have flipped the bird in traffic. We're human people, not sin-free.

Apparently she attempted several times to get into that courthouse. Who's to say what happened to make her utter some profanity? Maybe the guard pushed her a little to keep her out? We don't know the whole story but I agree it's so sad that we down the victim without knowing all the facts, though the fact that we DO know is that this court policy is bs in a country where we supposedly have freedom of religion.

Are these people serious??? How many non-Muslim, non-hijabis, get violent and go crazy in the courtrooms everyday? So because she wears a hijab she's a hypocrite for cursing. She's immodest and hiding behind her hijab (so she can be a jerk while hiding behind it)??? LOOOOOOL That's a very pathetic argument. I wouldn't even bother arguing with them pumpkin. You'll get nowhere.

[sereia 0]

I just don't see the point in swearing at an officer...you aren't going to get anywhere with that kind of attitude! Hijabi or not.

[himher 634]

She has the right to wear her hijab, even in a backwoods corn-pone courtroom.

ADC and CAIR...unbelievable!

But I have to say...its Georgia...I have had some family that has had horrible experiences down south unfortunately. (Sorry to insult anyone from the grand ole south however, ur most likely the minority if you are open minded)...

It's just these kinds of broad generalizations that cause this kind of trouble Nawal.

Your babies are adorable btw.

As for the woman, she either should have removed her head gear or left the court room, no reason to arrest her.