Venezuela's Chavez tells UK's Blair to "go to hell"

[Carola 0]

This guy really sucks everytime he says something against Democracy and Freedom

"CARACAS, Venezuela (Reuters) - Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez told Prime Minister Tony Blair to "go right to hell" on Wednesday after Blair said Venezuela should abide by the principles of democracy.

Chavez, a fiery leftist who recently compared U.S. President George W. Bush to Adolf Hitler, accused Blair of bowing to Washington's interests and being "shameless" and "immoral."

"Stay in your place, Mr. Blair, you are not one that has the morality to criticise anyone," Chavez said during a speech. "Venezuela is a free nation. Do you believe we're still in times of imperialism and colonialism?"

"Go right to hell, Mr. Blair," Chavez said, using local slang that is more vulgar.

Chavez also called the British premier the principal ally of "Hitler Danger Bush Hitler", referring to his favourite nickname for Bush, "Mr. Danger."

During a parliamentary session on Wednesday, Blair called on Venezuela to respect the rules of the international community and said he would like to see Cuba, a close ally of Venezuela, function as a true democracy.

"I think the most important thing is that those countries in South America and North America realise they have much in common, much to gain from each other and ... in particular through the principles of democracy," Blair said.

Chavez characterised Blair's remarks as an effort by London to fall in line with Washington's increasingly harsh criticism of Venezuela, whose latest spat with the United States flared up when Chavez accused its main oil buyer of spying.

Chavez noted the statement came shortly after Bush called for increased funding for a U.S. radio station broadcasting pro-American messages in Latin America.

"This is not a coincidence, this a part of the imperial aggression," he said."

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"Go right to hell, Mr. Blair," Chavez said, using local slang that is more vulgar.

Tell us what the actual local slang was....

Edited February 9, 2006 by Agent Smith

[almaty 19]

"Go right to hell, Mr. Blair," Chavez said, using local slang that is more vulgar.

Tell us what the actual local slang was....

yeah, i like to here it..maybe something about being a father fcuker

[Carola 0]

"Go right to hell, Mr. Blair," Chavez said, using local slang that is more vulgar.

Tell us what the actual local slang was....

Something like: "go to eat SH*T" and he says that in tv. I wonder what Tony Blair is going to say about this... he is such and English Gentleman

[Fischkoepfin 1]

Sorry to point this out, but Venezuela has been quite democratic in the last few years, except for the time in 2002 and Chavez-opponents tried to oust him with the help of the dear POTUS. They succeeded for about 1 day and then the Venezuelans took to the street to protest the ousting of their elected president. Oh, and then there was this incident in 2004 when the US-funded opposition managed to stage a referrendum on Chavez. He won and UN-observers testified that the election/referrendum was fair and democratic (something they did not say about the 2004-presidential election in the US). And I won't go into detail about the US-support of Columbian rebels helping to stage a guerilla war in Venezuela.

The only reason Bush and Blair hate Chavez is because he has made sure that the oil profits benefit the population of Venezuela and not the oil companies. Oh, and because he started the political transformation of South America.

[Carola 0]

Sorry to point this out, but Venezuela has been quite democratic in the last few years, except for the time in 2002 and Chavez-opponents tried to oust him with the help of the dear POTUS. They succeeded for about 1 day and then the Venezuelans took to the street to protest the ousting of their elected president. Oh, and then there was this incident in 2004 when the US-funded opposition managed to stage a referrendum on Chavez. He won and UN-observers testified that the election/referrendum was fair and democratic (something they did not say about the 2004-presidential election in the US). And I won't go into detail about the US-support of Columbian rebels helping to stage a guerilla war in Venezuela.

The only reason Bush and Blair hate Chavez is because he has made sure that the oil profits benefit the population of Venezuela and not the oil companies. Oh, and because he started the political transformation of South America.

I disagree with you, everything you say sounds beautiful but it isn't... past referendum was a totally fraud they had the power and the oil money to trick the election, and in 2002 I was in the multitudinary rally against Chavez when his people started to shut against us... 19 people just claiming for a better Country died. Yes, he started a political transformation of South America... just like Cuba.

[Fischkoepfin 1]

I disagree with you, everything you say sounds beautiful but it isn't... past referendum was a totally fraud they had the power and the oil money to trick the election, and in 2002 I was in the multitudinary rally against Chavez when his people started to shut against us... 19 people just claiming for a better Country died. Yes, he started a political transformation of South America... just like Cuba.

You're from Venezuela, so I should probably believe you. However, I've read quite a few things on the issue, and even if you're right about Chavez, there are indications that the US is overstepping its bounds and trying to oust Chavez:

http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0419-08.htm

And I'm not quite sure why Jimmy Carter, who was part of the UN-delegation in 2004, would claim that the referrendum in Venezuela went fine if it didn't. It's not like he has a personal interest in keeping Chavez in power, right?

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

And I'm not quite sure why Jimmy Carter, who was part of the UN-delegation in 2004, would claim that the referrendum in Venezuela went fine if it didn't.

Carter also rubberstamped the Ethiopian election last May while the EU observers attested that the election failed to meet international standards. Knowing directly from my wife's family that that was not an election but a staged confirmation of the guy in power, I wouldn't give much value to Carter's evaluation.

[Carola 0]

Carter also rubberstamped the Ethiopian election last May while the EU observers attested that the election failed to meet international standards. Knowing directly from my wife's family that that was not an election but a staged confirmation of the guy in power, I wouldn't give much value to Carter's evaluation.

Me neither, Carter and Carter delegation disappointed democratic people back there in 2004 when he says that Venezuelan election were clean, clear and fair... of course later on everybody knew that Chavez promise oil supply to US for the years to come, that was dirty!

[Fischkoepfin 1]

And I'm not quite sure why Jimmy Carter, who was part of the UN-delegation in 2004, would claim that the referrendum in Venezuela went fine if it didn't.

Carter also rubberstamped the Ethiopian election last May while the EU observers attested that the election failed to meet international standards. Knowing directly from my wife's family that that was not an election but a staged confirmation of the guy in power, I wouldn't give much value to Carter's evaluation.

Fair enough! So, I'll take back the Carter as a reliable source.

[Carola 0]

And I'm not quite sure why Jimmy Carter, who was part of the UN-delegation in 2004, would claim that the referrendum in Venezuela went fine if it didn't.

Carter also rubberstamped the Ethiopian election last May while the EU observers attested that the election failed to meet international standards. Knowing directly from my wife's family that that was not an election but a staged confirmation of the guy in power, I wouldn't give much value to Carter's evaluation.

Fair enough! So, I'll take back the Carter as a reliable source.

I don't know about that, I used to think so.

[Fischkoepfin 1]

And I'm not quite sure why Jimmy Carter, who was part of the UN-delegation in 2004, would claim that the referrendum in Venezuela went fine if it didn't.

Carter also rubberstamped the Ethiopian election last May while the EU observers attested that the election failed to meet international standards. Knowing directly from my wife's family that that was not an election but a staged confirmation of the guy in power, I wouldn't give much value to Carter's evaluation.

Fair enough! So, I'll take back the Carter as a reliable source.

I don't know about that, I used to think so.

I wanted to edit my last post, but too late. Anyway, the Organization of American States also said it was fair and square. (Source)

I'm willing to be convinced of the opposite; I'm just skeptical because of the contrasting reports I get from Venezuela.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

And I'm not quite sure why Jimmy Carter, who was part of the UN-delegation in 2004, would claim that the referrendum in Venezuela went fine if it didn't.

Carter also rubberstamped the Ethiopian election last May while the EU observers attested that the election failed to meet international standards. Knowing directly from my wife's family that that was not an election but a staged confirmation of the guy in power, I wouldn't give much value to Carter's evaluation.

Fair enough! So, I'll take back the Carter as a reliable source.

I don't know about that, I used to think so.

I wanted to edit my last post, but too late. Anyway, the Organization of American States also said it was fair and square. (Source)

I'm willing to be convinced of the opposite; I'm just skeptical because of the contrasting reports I get from Venezuela.

OAS here OAU there - one dominated by the US the other dominated by tyrants that won't point fingers at one another. I don't know too much about this Chavez guy or Venezuela but some of the evaluating bodies out there are rather questionable.

[Fischkoepfin 1]

And I'm not quite sure why Jimmy Carter, who was part of the UN-delegation in 2004, would claim that the referrendum in Venezuela went fine if it didn't.

Carter also rubberstamped the Ethiopian election last May while the EU observers attested that the election failed to meet international standards. Knowing directly from my wife's family that that was not an election but a staged confirmation of the guy in power, I wouldn't give much value to Carter's evaluation.

Fair enough! So, I'll take back the Carter as a reliable source.

I don't know about that, I used to think so.

I wanted to edit my last post, but too late. Anyway, the Organization of American States also said it was fair and square. (Source)

I'm willing to be convinced of the opposite; I'm just skeptical because of the contrasting reports I get from Venezuela.

OAS here OAU there - one dominated by the US the other dominated by tyrants that won't point fingers at one another. I don't know too much about this Chavez guy or Venezuela but some of the evaluating bodies out there are rather questionable.

I agree. But then there are some reports from Venezuela in European and American papers that claim that unlike other South American politicians, Chavez relies on democratic institutions; the discord with the US appears to be the result of close relations to Cuba (Link 1, Link 2, Sorry, the second article is in German). And while I view Castro as an autocrat even though he has raised the standard of living for most Cubans, I don't think the same of Chavez.

[Jaylen Brit 0]

I'm sure Tony is very worried by insults from Venezuela - might de-reail the 'special relationship' the UK has with that country...oh no..wait... /sarcasm

(no offence to Venezuelans - just 'Mr Needs-some-classes-in-how-to-conduct-International-Relations')