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[Valsu 1]

You said she was picked up TWO STATES AWAY! She doesn't need papers to travel state to state so please explain what the *uck you are talking about. How did BP pick her up??? It is not like she was caught going to Mexico or Canada.

And no, they can't. Since I'm LEGAL, ICE would have NO problem with me. They can't pick me up and throw me in their car for walking down the street. If they pick you up, they have probably been looking for you.

Please stop talking complete s*hit. You are annoying as all hell and I'm tired of this thread completely. Why are there 13 pages for someone who didn't follow the law, and then goes on and on about how his poor wife goes from a shelter, to an immigration facility, etc.

You shouldn't be married. Period. You have had a crappy pseudo-marriage and expect people to care and learn from your mistakes. No one would take advice from you at this point so stop sounding like you are a great example of what not to do and how to fix it.

I know it won't do any good to make any attempt to try and explain anything to someone like you. You're way too hotheaded, and obviously wouldn't care what I said either way; but whatever, I'll throw out some details in spite of that.

I went to the Greyhound station she was picked up in on my way back home from visiting my wife at the prison. The lady told me that Border Patrol randomly checks buses at their discretion, and my wife could have been unlucky in that regard. She also stated that Border Patrol agents are actually stationed at some bus stations closer to the border of another country--such as states near Mexcio. Which means, generally along the eastern coast, there's very little border patrol inspections taking place at those stations--if at all. She did say that my wife would have had to present her identification to get on the original bus, and there's a chance that when they noticed it was expired, they informed ICE--which could be what prompted them to check the next bus station she arrived in.

Also, quit trying to defend something you have no idea about. You can be picked up without your paperwork on you. I verified that with a mexican friend of mine who has her green card, and was arrested in a similar manner. Fortunately for her, it took place in front of her sister, who rushed home and got her purse, and got her out of custody a few hours later. She said that they will hold you no more than 3-5 days, during which time you must find a way to prove your legal status. If you cannot, they'll send you to a detention facility and place you into removal proceedings. Now, because you're legal, once you prove it, ICE will have no problem with you--that is the fact. Just don't think you're "above" walking around without your papers, and not risk the chance of getting arrested.

As for your personal attacks and judgments, back off. You have no right to proclaim whether or not I should be married. If you are that annoyed, then go away and mind your business in another thread.

[Valsu 1]

Hallelujah!!!!! This has been on my mind for sometime now. How on earth did they just pick her up just like that?? Did she have a sticker on her forehead saying out of status?? Was she pulled over for speeding,expired tag,driving a stolen car etc?...hmmm

This guy reported fraud to ICE and they were looking for her.He was bitter because she left him. Call me judgmental if you like,but a part of my role at work is to identify and report abuse.I am trained in this area of work.At first, i actually felt sorry for you,however, after closely monitoring your posts; i am now convinced that this is a classic abuse situation.Do you realise how serious this is?

You're wrong. Refer to my above post.

I am not at all bitter against my wife. I never once contacted any form of immigration and reported fraud against my wife. If that was the case, I would certainly not be trying to work my marriage out with her. I suggest you obtain more "training" in your field. I did, however, come here and seek advice and counseling first, regarding her actions, and determined a couple of pages in on my original post that she was not doing anything fraudulent.

I don't think you monitored the posts as closely as you claim.

[chavelle 6]

You said she was picked up TWO STATES AWAY! She doesn't need papers to travel state to state so please explain what the *uck you are talking about.  How did BP pick her up??? It is not like she was caught going to Mexico or Canada.And no, they can't.  Since I'm LEGAL, ICE would have NO problem with me.  They can't pick me up and throw me in their car for walking down the street. If they pick you up, they have probably been looking for you.Please stop talking complete s*hit. You are annoying as all hell and I'm tired of this thread completely.  Why are there 13 pages for someone who didn't follow the law, and then goes on and on about how his poor wife goes from a shelter, to an immigration facility, etc.  You shouldn't be married. Period. You have had a crappy pseudo-marriage and expect people to care and learn from your mistakes.  No one would take advice from you at this point so stop sounding like you are a great example of what not to do and how to fix it.

I know it won't do any good to make any attempt to try and explain anything to someone like you.  You're way too hotheaded, and obviously wouldn't care what I said either way; but whatever, I'll throw out some details in spite of that.

I went to the Greyhound station she was picked up in on my way back home from visiting my wife at the prison.  The lady told me that Border Patrol randomly checks buses at their discretion, and my wife could have been unlucky in that regard.  She also stated that Border Patrol agents are actually stationed at some bus stations closer to the border of another country--such as states near Mexcio.  Which means, generally along the eastern coast, there's very little border patrol inspections taking place at those stations--if at all.  She did say that my wife would have had to present her identification to get on the original bus, and there's a chance that when they noticed it was expired, they informed ICE--which could be what prompted them to check the next bus station she arrived in.Also, quit trying to defend something you have no idea about.  You can be picked up without your paperwork on you.  I verified that with a mexican friend of mine who has her green card, and was arrested in a similar manner.  Fortunately for her, it took place in front of her sister, who rushed home and got her purse, and got her out of custody a few hours later.  She said that they will hold you no more than 3-5 days, during which time you must find a way to prove your legal status.  If you cannot, they'll send you to a detention facility and place you into removal proceedings.  Now, because you're legal, once you prove it, ICE will have no problem with you--that is the fact.  Just don't think you're "above" walking around without your papers, and not risk the chance of getting arrested.As for your personal attacks and judgments, back off.  You have no right to proclaim whether or not I should be married.  If you are that annoyed, then go away and mind your business in another thread.

Edited December 18, 2008 by chavelle

[ChristophandEvan 0]

Valsu thats what i am curious about coz my husband and i travelled to ElPaso Texas and when going back home,there's a border patrol and i was out of status for 3 days that time,the officer just scanned my passport and my husband told him that we're already married..then he handed back the passport,so maybe your wife was detained coz she was travelling alone with out you?

[chavelle 6]

Hallelujah!!!!! This has been on my mind for sometime now. How on earth did they just pick her up just like that?? Did she have a sticker on her forehead saying out of status?? Was she pulled over for speeding,expired tag,driving a stolen car etc?...hmmm

This guy reported fraud to ICE and they were looking for her.He was bitter because she left him. Call me judgmental if you like,but a part of my role at work is to identify and report abuse.I am trained in this area of work.At first, i actually felt sorry for you,however, after closely monitoring your posts; i am now convinced that this is a classic abuse situation.Do you realise how serious this is?

You're wrong. Refer to my above post.

I am not at all bitter against my wife. I never once contacted any form of immigration and reported fraud against my wife. If that was the case, I would certainly not be trying to work my marriage out with her. I suggest you obtain more "training" in your field. I did, however, come here and seek advice and counseling first, regarding her actions, and determined a couple of pages in on my original post that she was not doing anything fraudulent.

I don't think you monitored the posts as closely as you claim.

I pity you!!! you are a pathological LIAR.

[Ban Hammer 13,491]

in before

[Valsu 1]

I have no idea why you find that funny, but since you must require clarification, I was going there to pick up her luggage. Unfortunately, ICE had confiscated it, and I have to obtain it through them soon as my wife's written and notarized permission slip arrives in the mail.

[thetreble 19]

You said she was picked up TWO STATES AWAY! She doesn't need papers to travel state to state so please explain what the *uck you are talking about. How did BP pick her up??? It is not like she was caught going to Mexico or Canada.

And no, they can't. Since I'm LEGAL, ICE would have NO problem with me. They can't pick me up and throw me in their car for walking down the street. If they pick you up, they have probably been looking for you.

Please stop talking complete s*hit. You are annoying as all hell and I'm tired of this thread completely. Why are there 13 pages for someone who didn't follow the law, and then goes on and on about how his poor wife goes from a shelter, to an immigration facility, etc.

You shouldn't be married. Period. You have had a crappy pseudo-marriage and expect people to care and learn from your mistakes. No one would take advice from you at this point so stop sounding like you are a great example of what not to do and how to fix it.

I know it won't do any good to make any attempt to try and explain anything to someone like you. You're way too hotheaded, and obviously wouldn't care what I said either way; but whatever, I'll throw out some details in spite of that.

I went to the Greyhound station she was picked up in on my way back home from visiting my wife at the prison. The lady told me that Border Patrol randomly checks buses at their discretion, and my wife could have been unlucky in that regard. She also stated that Border Patrol agents are actually stationed at some bus stations closer to the border of another country--such as states near Mexcio. Which means, generally along the eastern coast, there's very little border patrol inspections taking place at those stations--if at all. She did say that my wife would have had to present her identification to get on the original bus, and there's a chance that when they noticed it was expired, they informed ICE--which could be what prompted them to check the next bus station she arrived in.

Also, quit trying to defend something you have no idea about. You can be picked up without your paperwork on you. I verified that with a mexican friend of mine who has her green card, and was arrested in a similar manner. Fortunately for her, it took place in front of her sister, who rushed home and got her purse, and got her out of custody a few hours later. She said that they will hold you no more than 3-5 days, during which time you must find a way to prove your legal status. If you cannot, they'll send you to a detention facility and place you into removal proceedings. Now, because you're legal, once you prove it, ICE will have no problem with you--that is the fact. Just don't think you're "above" walking around without your papers, and not risk the chance of getting arrested.

As for your personal attacks and judgments, back off. You have no right to proclaim whether or not I should be married. If you are that annoyed, then go away and mind your business in another thread.

"A person like me"? Do you mean, a university educated individual who has successfully completed the immigration process, found a decent job, just bought a home I can actually afford and is general has a great marriage?

And I won't back off. Because threads like this just spiral out of control and give out all kinds of bad information. The only time you need to show ID in reference to a greyhound bus is when you purchase a ticket and in that regards, it would have been my driver's license. Although, I guess you never got your wife that either so her only form of ID is some expired visa. I've never in my life had to show proof to get on the bus, only when buying the ticket.

Do you notice that all your information is completely hearsay? "This lady told me.." , "I heard from my friend...", for someone who has messed up the immigration process, you sure are an expect on EVERYTHING from ICE to Immigration Detention facilities.

I may not know much about ICE, because I would have no need being LEGAL, but I can tell you that if you are legitimately in this country and doing your best, they will have no interest in you. I have never heard ANY ONE say on this site, that was legit, that they were picked up by ICE for apparently no reason.

Furthermore, you keep on saying "without your papers" like this is the 1940s. No one here has papers that they carry around with them. I have a Greencard, that is it and that should be enough. If you aren't legal, then they should pick you up.

There is little logic in anything you say and that is why so many people have stopped caring or even being sympathetic.

I may be a bit of a hot head, but at least I can call a farce when I see what my friend. This is what your whole situation is, and you have dedicated multiple threads on giving us all updates because you think it is so important. Well, it's not.

[Valsu 1]

Valsu thats what i am curious about coz my husband and i travelled to ElPaso Texas and when going back home,there's a border patrol and i was out of status for 3 days that time,the officer just scanned my passport and my husband told him that we're already married..then he handed back the passport,so maybe your wife was detained coz she was travelling alone with out you?

A lot of that depends on the BP officer. They have the ability to make that call however they choose. Whether or not they can arrest the nonimmigrant in the presence of the spouse, I do not know. I would imagine that would play a strong role in their decision not to do so, however.

Chances are, yes, it is because she was traveling alone. According to what they told me, that makes her appear to be a "flight risk" in the eyes of immigration.

[Jenn! 918]

I'm closing this thread now for some blatant TOS violations.

I obviously have missed a part of this story because I'm having a hard time figuring out why people are so upset with the OP.