What Americans Really Want: 10 Policies We Can All Agree On

[britty 1]

What I found disturbing is while 81% polled do not favour torture, that means that 19% do. So nearly 1/5th of the population believe that torture is acceptable? Now, that is frightening.

Indeed....

There are many many instances where torture is necessary to ensure the safety and security of all. There are people out there who would see entire west nations wiped out simply because of differing religious beliefs and being complete nutjobs of course. What would you like to do with terrorists for example? Send them a strongly worded letter perhaps?

[JingJoseph 0]

I do believe that must be whom the author of this silly article must have been surveying to get these ridiculous assumptions.

The sources are there for you check out yourself, peejay.

Na just ask the nipple. That puts all the effort in copy and paste from

(the source to be told what to think) right where it should be in the

trash. (sources are there for you check out). Nope sorry they are

for you to belive what they spit is the truth. Thats easy. Harder to

know what is real and a lie. Takes effort, takes a mind of your own.

Real people polls? Take a thousand anywhere you pick, don't forget

these polls are done in major citys, LA, NY..etc...

Thats pretty much what you pasted. Not a problem, a thousand

from a meaningless poll out of millions. Do the math.

It's your choice to belive what your told or think for yourself.

Pick a nipple or pick for yourself.

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don't forget these polls are done in major citys, LA, NY..etc...

79% of the US population in 2000 lived in urban areas.

58% of the US population in 2000 lived in urban areas of more than 200,000 people.

Source: http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/planning/census/cps2k.htm

Edited December 14, 2008 by A.J.

[JingJoseph 0]

don't forget these polls are done in major citys, LA, NY..etc...

79% of the US population in 2000 lived in urban areas.

58% of the US population in 2000 lived in urban areas of more than 200,000 people.

Source: http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/planning/census/cps2k.htm

2000 58%? You know how many millions where not in this?

Its 2008 now. Even then 3/4's of the nation had no say.

Pick a channel, find the hand full they (got a answer from).

Then say over 300 million belive in the nipple. Mean no dis

respect at all. These polls never reach most of us with a mind

of our own. Try to tell millions of us what to belive from a hand

full of one-sided (mostly run) by nipples.

Well you get a one sided view of a world that is not that way.

Sure you get a .newsview. a .govsview and that ####### is what

makes problems for the larger part of us. Tell a woman or a man

with a mind of their own no matter what country what they should

belive. You will find a millions of normal people wondering whats

wrong with you.

Ask them what poll they took part in. Find it so easy to be told

what to belive. Might as well play with your nipples. You people

can't think for your self, have no mind at all. Sorry but we can't

be told what to think, we know better. Shame some of you can't.

Did you ever take time to wonder why some see you so bad?

Have you ever thought it could be what you didn't take the time

understand? Cut on cnn, watch some pic's thats all you need.

No need to think at all. It's here big time in this first post.

That nipple at the end of a copy and paste. Well it's easy to

see where that came from.

Peejay spoke his mind. Thats ok hit the rest of of millions

with cnn. See how many nipples that gets the copy and paste.

Your polls are not us. Dont try to make it so

Edited December 14, 2008 by JingJoseph

[mRx 16]

• Repair and rebuild neglected bridges, railroads, schools, and other infrastructure, designing for climate change & a post-petroleum world.
• Extend unemployment insurance benefits.
• Provide tax relief to middle- and low-income families, and reinstate fair taxes on high-wealth individuals and corporate profits.
• Adopt the Employee Free Choice Act to increase opportunities to unionize.

67% Favor public works projects to create jobs.

55% Favor expanding unemployment benefits.

73% Say corporations don't pay a fair share of taxes.

76% Support tax cuts for lower- and middle-income people.

71% Say unions help their members; 53% say unions help the economy in general.

I don't why this public works project Obama has planned is so glamorized. It's not going to create anything. We, the people, create everything. Government cannot get money anywhere but from us. Whether it be overt (taxation) or covert (inflationary money creation).

So all that is really happening with this infrastructure scheme is jobs and wealth are being forced from the private sector to the public sector. We can not gain wealth through intervention and coercion. It can only be transferred and reallocated.

Matt, there are still facilities being used, bridges being crossed and roads being driven over that were built after the Great Depression by workers on the WPA.

A nation needs an infrastructure to be called a nation. If the next administration were indicating they were going to make it easier to simply sit around on your ####### and draw a welfare check, I could understand the outcry. But putting people to work to build things we need is far from not 'creating' anything.

Historically what the WPA did was put people to work on infrastructure projects UNTIL there were private sector jobs created. I could say that some folks are glamorizing the free markets if I wanted to apply the same logic you seem to be applying. The fact of the matter is that new private sector business and jobs won't happen overnight, no matter how powerfully one wants to believe in American 'capitalism' (a term I think is rather loose myself).

But the same logic simply cannot be applied to the free market. I'm not really sure what you mean by that anyways, Becca.

But, the New Deal actually made the depression longer than it would have been with the free market. Pumping more money into the economy doesn't increase wealth, just as paying someone to dig a hole doesn't create a more prosperous economy. (If you're interested, check out The Broken Window Fallacy, . which is a work created by renouned 18th century French economist Frédéric Bastiat, and clearly explained by economist Henry Hazlitt.)

[JingJoseph 0]

• Repair and rebuild neglected bridges, railroads, schools, and other infrastructure, designing for climate change & a post-petroleum world.
• Extend unemployment insurance benefits.
• Provide tax relief to middle- and low-income families, and reinstate fair taxes on high-wealth individuals and corporate profits.
• Adopt the Employee Free Choice Act to increase opportunities to unionize.

67% Favor public works projects to create jobs.

55% Favor expanding unemployment benefits.

73% Say corporations don't pay a fair share of taxes.

76% Support tax cuts for lower- and middle-income people.

71% Say unions help their members; 53% say unions help the economy in general.

I don't why this public works project Obama has planned is so glamorized. It's not going to create anything. We, the people, create everything. Government cannot get money anywhere but from us. Whether it be overt (taxation) or covert (inflationary money creation).

So all that is really happening with this infrastructure scheme is jobs and wealth are being forced from the private sector to the public sector. We can not gain wealth through intervention and coercion. It can only be transferred and reallocated.

Matt, there are still facilities being used, bridges being crossed and roads being driven over that were built after the Great Depression by workers on the WPA.

A nation needs an infrastructure to be called a nation. If the next administration were indicating they were going to make it easier to simply sit around on your ####### and draw a welfare check, I could understand the outcry. But putting people to work to build things we need is far from not 'creating' anything.

Historically what the WPA did was put people to work on infrastructure projects UNTIL there were private sector jobs created. I could say that some folks are glamorizing the free markets if I wanted to apply the same logic you seem to be applying. The fact of the matter is that new private sector business and jobs won't happen overnight, no matter how powerfully one wants to believe in American 'capitalism' (a term I think is rather loose myself).

But the same logic simply cannot be applied to the free market. I'm not really sure what you mean by that anyways, Becca.

But, the New Deal actually made the depression longer than it would have been with the free market. Pumping more money into the economy doesn't increase wealth, just as paying someone to dig a hole doesn't create a more prosperous economy. (If you're interested, check out The Broken Window Fallacy, . which is a work created by renouned 18th century French economist Frédéric Bastiat, and clearly explained by economist Henry Hazlitt.)

Your right. Didn't work then. Try it now it will be even worse.

[Danno 1,228]

Sticking to 'lofty principles' is what seperates 'us' from 'them'. You should try it sometime. Needless to say, waterboarding and other forms of torture simply don't work - in terms of extracting useful information. About the only thing it seems to do is make some people feel good about giving their enemies a taste of their own sadistic medicine. Oh the joy of reading such flawed logic as comes from the keyboard of Dannoboy

I posted the vid to show that waterboarding CAN BE EFFECTIVE in getting info.

As for "lofty principles" I will save the use of

them for like minded people.

PS: the bombs clock was ticking and you never gave us your choice of action.

[JingJoseph 0]

Sticking to 'lofty principles' is what seperates 'us' from 'them'. You should try it sometime. Needless to say, waterboarding and other forms of torture simply don't work - in terms of extracting useful information. About the only thing it seems to do is make some people feel good about giving their enemies a taste of their own sadistic medicine. Oh the joy of reading such flawed logic as comes from the keyboard of Dannoboy

I posted the vid to show that waterboarding CAN BE EFFECTIVE in getting info.

As for "lofty principles" I will save the use of

them for like minded people.

PS: the bombs clock was ticking and you never gave us your choice of action.

Nipples we can belive in

Got to ####### a the problem.

Whats cnn gonna get ya.

Hit it on the head Danno.

Edited December 14, 2008 by JingJoseph

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

What I found disturbing is while 81% polled do not favour torture, that means that 19% do. So nearly 1/5th of the population believe that torture is acceptable? Now, that is frightening.

Not sure why you would be stunned at only 19% of people claiming they might accept torture, I am betting that number would go past 50% if the right question were asked.

Let's see how this might go.....

" we know a bomb is planted in the city somewhere and intell indicates it will kill thousands within 12 hours,

we have just taken one of the group leaders into custody but he has not responded to our direct questions.

SHould we

a. get him a lawyer so he understands his rights?

b. waterboard his azz?

When you don't have to make these decisions, it's easy to stick to some lofty principle, when you know your lofty decision will mean the lost lives of innocent people, in order to protect the one causing lives to be lost, it's not so easy.

Is that the same intel that suggested that Iraq was WMD infested?

[mRx 16]

What I found disturbing is while 81% polled do not favour torture, that means that 19% do. So nearly 1/5th of the population believe that torture is acceptable? Now, that is frightening.

Indeed....

There are many many instances where torture is necessary to ensure the safety and security of all. There are people out there who would see entire west nations wiped out simply because of differing religious beliefs and being complete nutjobs of course. What would you like to do with terrorists for example? Send them a strongly worded letter perhaps?

Torture is one of those issues I'm kinda ambivalant towards. While I can see in some instances where it would be effective, we are a civilized nation in the 20th century. Aren't we evolved enough as a civilization that we don't necessarily have to resort to 400AD tactics? This is one of those things where you have to go to the source. Why do these people want to see the entire West wiped out? I can assure you, contrary to Limbaugh and Savage, it's not because our "freedom" or "religion". It's because of our foreign policy and meddling with other sovereign countries. (Look at Iran, Afghanistan, and Palestine in particular)

We can continue trying to develop countries to be subservient toward US policies, but we must accept the fact that intevening in foreign affairs will earn us enemies.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

What I found disturbing is while 81% polled do not favour torture, that means that 19% do. So nearly 1/5th of the population believe that torture is acceptable? Now, that is frightening.

Indeed....

There are many many instances where torture is necessary to ensure the safety and security of all. There are people out there who would see entire west nations wiped out simply because of differing religious beliefs and being complete nutjobs of course. What would you like to do with terrorists for example? Send them a strongly worded letter perhaps?

Torture is one of those issues I'm kinda ambivalant towards. While I can see in some instances where it would be effective, we are a civilized nation in the 20th century. Aren't we evolved enough as a civilization that we don't necessarily have to resort to 400AD tactics? This is one of those things where you have to go to the source. Why do these people want to see the entire West wiped out? I can assure you, contrary to Limbaugh and Savage, it's not because our "freedom" or "religion". It's because of our foreign policy and meddling with other sovereign countries. (Look at Iran, Afghanistan, and Palestine in particular)

We can continue trying to develop countries to be subservient toward US policies, but we must accept the fact that intevening in foreign affairs will earn us enemies.

Indeed.

[britty 1]

What I found disturbing is while 81% polled do not favour torture, that means that 19% do. So nearly 1/5th of the population believe that torture is acceptable? Now, that is frightening.

Indeed....

There are many many instances where torture is necessary to ensure the safety and security of all. There are people out there who would see entire west nations wiped out simply because of differing religious beliefs and being complete nutjobs of course. What would you like to do with terrorists for example? Send them a strongly worded letter perhaps?

Torture is one of those issues I'm kinda ambivalant towards. While I can see in some instances where it would be effective, we are a civilized nation in the 20th century. Aren't we evolved enough as a civilization that we don't necessarily have to resort to 400AD tactics? This is one of those things where you have to go to the source. Why do these people want to see the entire West wiped out? I can assure you, contrary to Limbaugh and Savage, it's not because our "freedom" or "religion". It's because of our foreign policy and meddling with other sovereign countries. (Look at Iran, Afghanistan, and Palestine in particular)

We can continue trying to develop countries to be subservient toward US policies, but we must accept the fact that intevening in foreign affairs will earn us enemies.

Indeed.

Give an example of a country who is subservient to US policies? The USA rebuilt Germany and Japan after they were destroyed. Would the Iraqi journalist who threw his shoes at President Bush still draw breath had the target of those shoes been Saddam Hussein during his regime? In which city would a Chinese mother face harsher penalties for giving birth to an "unauthorized" child, Boston or Beijing? You have a childish, irresponsible world view where the good guys are bad and the bad guys are good. I am weary of this constant, idiotic, left wing assault on the most free, the most prosperous democracy to ever exist. Be very glad you are sitting at your computer able to freely type whatever you please, as opposed to a terminal in Saudi Arabia where you would be beheaded for simply having a copy of the New Testament in your possession.

[HAL 9000 96]

What I found disturbing is while 81% polled do not favour torture, that means that 19% do. So nearly 1/5th of the population believe that torture is acceptable? Now, that is frightening.

Indeed....

There are many many instances where torture is necessary to ensure the safety and security of all. There are people out there who would see entire west nations wiped out simply because of differing religious beliefs and being complete nutjobs of course. What would you like to do with terrorists for example? Send them a strongly worded letter perhaps?

Torture is one of those issues I'm kinda ambivalant towards. While I can see in some instances where it would be effective, we are a civilized nation in the 20th century. Aren't we evolved enough as a civilization that we don't necessarily have to resort to 400AD tactics? This is one of those things where you have to go to the source. Why do these people want to see the entire West wiped out? I can assure you, contrary to Limbaugh and Savage, it's not because our "freedom" or "religion". It's because of our foreign policy and meddling with other sovereign countries. (Look at Iran, Afghanistan, and Palestine in particular)

We can continue trying to develop countries to be subservient toward US policies, but we must accept the fact that intevening in foreign affairs will earn us enemies.

[britty 1]

What I found disturbing is while 81% polled do not favour torture, that means that 19% do. So nearly 1/5th of the population believe that torture is acceptable? Now, that is frightening.

Indeed....

There are many many instances where torture is necessary to ensure the safety and security of all. There are people out there who would see entire west nations wiped out simply because of differing religious beliefs and being complete nutjobs of course. What would you like to do with terrorists for example? Send them a strongly worded letter perhaps?

Torture is one of those issues I'm kinda ambivalant towards. While I can see in some instances where it would be effective, we are a civilized nation in the 20th century. Aren't we evolved enough as a civilization that we don't necessarily have to resort to 400AD tactics? This is one of those things where you have to go to the source. Why do these people want to see the entire West wiped out? I can assure you, contrary to Limbaugh and Savage, it's not because our "freedom" or "religion". It's because of our foreign policy and meddling with other sovereign countries. (Look at Iran, Afghanistan, and Palestine in particular)

We can continue trying to develop countries to be subservient toward US policies, but we must accept the fact that intevening in foreign affairs will earn us enemies.

Oh another genius pipes up....

[HAL 9000 96]

What I found disturbing is while 81% polled do not favour torture, that means that 19% do. So nearly 1/5th of the population believe that torture is acceptable? Now, that is frightening.

Indeed....

There are many many instances where torture is necessary to ensure the safety and security of all. There are people out there who would see entire west nations wiped out simply because of differing religious beliefs and being complete nutjobs of course. What would you like to do with terrorists for example? Send them a strongly worded letter perhaps?

Torture is one of those issues I'm kinda ambivalant towards. While I can see in some instances where it would be effective, we are a civilized nation in the 20th century. Aren't we evolved enough as a civilization that we don't necessarily have to resort to 400AD tactics? This is one of those things where you have to go to the source. Why do these people want to see the entire West wiped out? I can assure you, contrary to Limbaugh and Savage, it's not because our "freedom" or "religion". It's because of our foreign policy and meddling with other sovereign countries. (Look at Iran, Afghanistan, and Palestine in particular)

We can continue trying to develop countries to be subservient toward US policies, but we must accept the fact that intevening in foreign affairs will earn us enemies.

Oh another genius pipes up....

Angry tonight, eh?