Buying Green: Products for Sustainable Living

[chnst 6]

I have tried a few products such as Paint and some cleaners that are suppose to be good for the enviro, none work as good as the regular stuff (and they are always more money)...although I am told the water based finishes for floors and such has vastly improved.

what kind of dirt do you have in your place? I use 7th generation stuff and it works great.

[SpiritAlight 1]

i stole christmas?

who's the one encouraging people not to shop and to consume less?

please!

There it is!

The problem.

xmas = shopping

bah humbug

For many of us:

xmas = gatherings/parties/food/merrymaking

Carry on...

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

christmas = shopping

if you dont shop you hate america.

[SpiritAlight 1]

I have tried a few products such as Paint and some cleaners that are suppose to be good for the enviro, none work as good as the regular stuff (and they are always more money)...although I am told the water based finishes for floors and such has vastly improved.

what kind of dirt do you have in your place? I use 7th generation stuff and it works great.

When I moved in with my sweetie, I grabbed a big box and went around the house.

I put every poisonous cleanser and phosphate detergent in it.

I took it to the city hall's toxic waste management department to get rid of it.

Be gone...

There are so many alternatives besides making your own.

Please (except those already using products that won't kill fish, birds and ultimately us all) look it up.

There is such a thing on line called Google.

christmas = shopping

if you dont shop you hate america.

Oh I know how you feel about shopping and the U.S. Hahaha.

We have a good doctor you can see about it...

I lived the same way in Canada.

So there....(sticks tongue out).

PS A.J. there are others just like me....and they were born in the U.S.A.

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PS A.J. there are others just like me....and they were born in the U.S.A.

they're called domestic terrorists

[pedroh 21]

[SpiritAlight 1]

PS A.J. there are others just like me....and they were born in the U.S.A.

they're called domestic terrorists

Nice.

[Danno 1,228]

The shaker flashlights are actually quite bright, and easy to use. Just shake it a few times and you have light for about an hour. Same with the wind up ones. They're better to have around IMO than battery flashlights just for emergency purposes alone, nevermind the "green" value of it. Ever had a blackout and gone to get the flashlight only to find the batteries are dead? Or on the side of the highway in the dark with a flat tire and no flashlight? Keep the wind up one or shaker one and you don't have that problem. And the light is bright enough and wide enough to see just as well as any other light IMO. We use ours all the time while walking the dogs at night. And we have biodegradable poop pick-up bags for them too

Say all you want about hippy tree huggers, but "going green" actually SAVES YOU MONEY.

If shaking one of those Flashlights a few times will really give off light for an hour..... count me in!

It's true, every time I go for my flashlight, the batteries are dead.

Danny

[one...two...tree 2,762]

It's just my opinion but I think way too many people are caught up in the "marketing of Green" than actually living in the spirit of it.

What the hell is the purpose of buying a wind-up flashlight, if you live in a 2000 Sqft house?

Is it not self deception?

Anyway, I take pretty big measures to conserve energy use, not because I am trying to SAVE THE PLANET.. but for a less lofty reason, I am trying to save a few bucks.

I actually tried one of those flashlights in a store and it seem to take a lot of work to keep the thing going, perhaps a great gift for a fat friend?

There are a ton of folks out there (and right here) who love that little warm feeling they get when they buy Green products.... corporations know this and now they are using this in their marketing plan.

Does anyone really think that buying a bottle of "green" glass cleaner is going to improve the earths water quality? If you are really serious about water...... why don't you start with getting rid of that toilet in your house which consumes about 2 gallons of clean drinking water each time you take a wizz?

I have tried a few products such as Paint and some cleaners that are suppose to be good for the enviro, none work as good as the regular stuff (and they are always more money)...although I am told the water based finishes for floors and such has vastly improved.

What can I say, if setting the A/C in the summer up to 80 degrees and the heat down to 65 in the winter is asking too much of you, then go ahead and buy "green" products if they make you feel like a better human.

Danno - let me ask you this? Are you a pretty clean person? For example, do you throw away your trash into a garbage can?

[HAL 9000 96]

It's just my opinion but I think way too many people are caught up in the "marketing of Green" than actually living in the spirit of it.

What the hell is the purpose of buying a wind-up flashlight, if you live in a 2000 Sqft house?

Is it not self deception?

Anyway, I take pretty big measures to conserve energy use, not because I am trying to SAVE THE PLANET.. but for a less lofty reason, I am trying to save a few bucks.

I actually tried one of those flashlights in a store and it seem to take a lot of work to keep the thing going, perhaps a great gift for a fat friend?

There are a ton of folks out there (and right here) who love that little warm feeling they get when they buy Green products.... corporations know this and now they are using this in their marketing plan.

Does anyone really think that buying a bottle of "green" glass cleaner is going to improve the earths water quality? If you are really serious about water...... why don't you start with getting rid of that toilet in your house which consumes about 2 gallons of clean drinking water each time you take a wizz?

I have tried a few products such as Paint and some cleaners that are suppose to be good for the enviro, none work as good as the regular stuff (and they are always more money)...although I am told the water based finishes for floors and such has vastly improved.

What can I say, if setting the A/C in the summer up to 80 degrees and the heat down to 65 in the winter is asking too much of you, then go ahead and buy "green" products if they make you feel like a better human.

Danno - let me ask you this? Are you a pretty clean person? For example, do you throw away your trash into a garbage can?

I am sorry I didn't check out this thread earlier. Danno is right on with that last post... lofty or not... being green doesn't necessarily mean being ritzy.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

It's just my opinion but I think way too many people are caught up in the "marketing of Green" than actually living in the spirit of it.

What the hell is the purpose of buying a wind-up flashlight, if you live in a 2000 Sqft house?

Is it not self deception?

Anyway, I take pretty big measures to conserve energy use, not because I am trying to SAVE THE PLANET.. but for a less lofty reason, I am trying to save a few bucks.

I actually tried one of those flashlights in a store and it seem to take a lot of work to keep the thing going, perhaps a great gift for a fat friend?

There are a ton of folks out there (and right here) who love that little warm feeling they get when they buy Green products.... corporations know this and now they are using this in their marketing plan.

Does anyone really think that buying a bottle of "green" glass cleaner is going to improve the earths water quality? If you are really serious about water...... why don't you start with getting rid of that toilet in your house which consumes about 2 gallons of clean drinking water each time you take a wizz?

I have tried a few products such as Paint and some cleaners that are suppose to be good for the enviro, none work as good as the regular stuff (and they are always more money)...although I am told the water based finishes for floors and such has vastly improved.

What can I say, if setting the A/C in the summer up to 80 degrees and the heat down to 65 in the winter is asking too much of you, then go ahead and buy "green" products if they make you feel like a better human.

Danno - let me ask you this? Are you a pretty clean person? For example, do you throw away your trash into a garbage can?

I am sorry I didn't check out this thread earlier. Danno is right on with that last post... lofty or not... being green doesn't necessarily mean being ritzy.

Sure - nor does frugality or conservation mean one must go to extremes to do so.

[almaty 19]

going green is the way to be..although, i need work on that....in certain areas...

[one...two...tree 2,762]

going green is the way to be..although, i need work on that....in certain areas...

Everyone of us.

[EmilyM 0]

baking soda and vinegar are great cleaners... I used a baking soda paste to clean my oven when I burned some plastic in it. got rid of the soot and grease and the smell.

vinegar is a cost effective way to clean windows. use vinegar and old newspaper or paper towel. works just as well as windex. and if you have a lick crazy cat like mine who licks the windows at any sign of condensation... then you know you're not harming them.

vinegar can also be used in laundry, and in the toilet (to get rid of smells).

also if you want to reduce the amount of water your toilet uses, fill up an old water bottle (or in my dad's case, an old ketchup bottle) with water and place it in the tank in the back. that way your toilet doesnt waste water when you flush it. (or you can use the motto: " if it's brown, flush it down... if it's yellow, let it mellow" but that doesnt bode well when you have company. hehe)

[HAL 9000 96]

It's just my opinion but I think way too many people are caught up in the "marketing of Green" than actually living in the spirit of it.

What the hell is the purpose of buying a wind-up flashlight, if you live in a 2000 Sqft house?

Is it not self deception?

Anyway, I take pretty big measures to conserve energy use, not because I am trying to SAVE THE PLANET.. but for a less lofty reason, I am trying to save a few bucks.

I actually tried one of those flashlights in a store and it seem to take a lot of work to keep the thing going, perhaps a great gift for a fat friend?

There are a ton of folks out there (and right here) who love that little warm feeling they get when they buy Green products.... corporations know this and now they are using this in their marketing plan.

Does anyone really think that buying a bottle of "green" glass cleaner is going to improve the earths water quality? If you are really serious about water...... why don't you start with getting rid of that toilet in your house which consumes about 2 gallons of clean drinking water each time you take a wizz?

I have tried a few products such as Paint and some cleaners that are suppose to be good for the enviro, none work as good as the regular stuff (and they are always more money)...although I am told the water based finishes for floors and such has vastly improved.

What can I say, if setting the A/C in the summer up to 80 degrees and the heat down to 65 in the winter is asking too much of you, then go ahead and buy "green" products if they make you feel like a better human.

Danno - let me ask you this? Are you a pretty clean person? For example, do you throw away your trash into a garbage can?

I am sorry I didn't check out this thread earlier. Danno is right on with that last post... lofty or not... being green doesn't necessarily mean being ritzy.

Sure - nor does frugality or conservation mean one must go to extremes to do so.

I agree with you wholeheartedly, Steven. Where possible, profiteering will occur with all new trends, fashions, and fads. Hence being 'green' in some locations is synonymous with being a yuppy, avant garde liberal or something of the sort as characterized by stereotypes. Nevertheless, if one wants to be serioulsy ecologically-minded without the fashion tag, then action exemplifies the spirit often misquoted as frugal. I think you'd rather be intelligent than extreme, right? Some folks will label things as they may... but without putting some gray matter into the problem, chances are they'll end up defeating their own purpose one way or another.