Boys avoid charges in stoning, hanging of kitten

[one...two...tree 2,762]

pretty much, something is wrong somewhere. children are not born evil it's something that develops in the wrong environment.

I used to think so too...but there some disorders that make children act in ways that are reprehensible.

two kids with disorders? i like your optimism but i'm not buying it. i live around so many horrible children, their parents are exactly the same as they are...

I didn't mean that. I'm just saying that in general, I used to think immediately that the parents have something to do with their children's behavior and there is a lot of truth to that, however, there are instances when a disorder can affect a child's behavior in extreme ways.

[rocks 494]

pretty much, something is wrong somewhere. children are not born evil it's something that develops in the wrong environment.

I used to think so too...but there some disorders that make children act in ways that are reprehensible.

two kids with disorders? i like your optimism but i'm not buying it. i live around so many horrible children, their parents are exactly the same as they are...

I didn't mean that. I'm just saying that in general, I used to think immediately that the parents have something to do with their children's behavior and there is a lot of truth to that, however, there are instances when a disorder can affect a child's behavior in extreme ways.

oh sure, i totally agree with you there.

i was thinking about what you were saying about being younger and how things were different, i know that when i was a kid i would never have dared to do something like that in fear of what my parents would do to me. kids don't really seem to have that fear anymore.

[LorriQ 0]

Even though they may not be charged with anything, the children and their parents will have to attend counseling and the parents will be sent to state "monitored" parenting classes. This is the norm as child services will be called in and will continue to check back over a period of generally 3 years, depending on what the conselors report back to the state. Not excusing their actions! But agreeing the parents need to be held accountable, but will probably get off with a hand slap!

Blaming video games is a little far-fetched. Games do not teach children, their parents and peers do. If behavior was learned from violent games, my son woulda hacked me to bits long ago considering we spent hours playing all the resident evil, Teken, Mortal Kombat and other gory games before he was pre-teen!

[rocks 494]

Even though they may not be charged with anything, the children and their parents will have to attend counseling and the parents will be sent to state "monitored" parenting classes. This is the norm as child services will be called in and will continue to check back over a period of generally 3 years, depending on what the conselors report back to the state. Not excusing their actions! But agreeing the parents need to be held accountable, but will probably get off with a hand slap!

Blaming video games is a little far-fetched. Games do not teach children, their parents and peers do. If behavior was learned from violent games, my son woulda hacked me to bits long ago considering we spent hours playing all the resident evil, Teken, Mortal Kombat and other gory games before he was pre-teen!

i'm afraid they will get off with a slap on the wrist too.

[LorriQ 0]

Even though they may not be charged with anything, the children and their parents will have to attend counseling and the parents will be sent to state "monitored" parenting classes. This is the norm as child services will be called in and will continue to check back over a period of generally 3 years, depending on what the conselors report back to the state. Not excusing their actions! But agreeing the parents need to be held accountable, but will probably get off with a hand slap!

Blaming video games is a little far-fetched. Games do not teach children, their parents and peers do. If behavior was learned from violent games, my son woulda hacked me to bits long ago considering we spent hours playing all the resident evil, Teken, Mortal Kombat and other gory games before he was pre-teen!

i'm afraid they will get off with a slap on the wrist too.

We could always sic PETA on them, think Pamela Anderson could scare them? She scares me!

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Blaming video games is a little far-fetched. Games do not teach children, their parents and peers do. If behavior was learned from violent games, my son woulda hacked me to bits long ago considering we spent hours playing all the resident evil, Teken, Mortal Kombat and other gory games before he was pre-teen!

The reality is that children who are exposed to cruel violence are affected by it...least of which, they become desensitized to it. I would never let my 7 yr. old play Grand Theft Auto for that reason. That said, it isn't easy to determine as a parent what is appropriate for a child's age other than using the ratings system. It's the same thing with movies, but ultimately this responsibility does fall on the parent's shoulders, and unfortunately for many, video games and TV are what their children are mostly exposed to for long periods of unsupervised time.

[rocks 494]

Even though they may not be charged with anything, the children and their parents will have to attend counseling and the parents will be sent to state "monitored" parenting classes. This is the norm as child services will be called in and will continue to check back over a period of generally 3 years, depending on what the conselors report back to the state. Not excusing their actions! But agreeing the parents need to be held accountable, but will probably get off with a hand slap!

Blaming video games is a little far-fetched. Games do not teach children, their parents and peers do. If behavior was learned from violent games, my son woulda hacked me to bits long ago considering we spent hours playing all the resident evil, Teken, Mortal Kombat and other gory games before he was pre-teen!

i'm afraid they will get off with a slap on the wrist too.

We could always sic PETA on them, think Pamela Anderson could scare them? She scares me!

good idea, those people deserve to feel the wrath of peta! i'm sure pamela anderson could convince dad of some stuff.

[Heracles 417]

Send the kids to me. I'll take the Bernie Mac approach and slap them silly, free of charge. No expense for the taxpayer.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Send the kids to me. I'll take the Bernie Mac approach and slap them silly, free of charge. No expense for the taxpayer.

When do you plan on having children?

[LorriQ 0]

Blaming video games is a little far-fetched. Games do not teach children, their parents and peers do. If behavior was learned from violent games, my son woulda hacked me to bits long ago considering we spent hours playing all the resident evil, Teken, Mortal Kombat and other gory games before he was pre-teen!

The reality is that children who are exposed to cruel violence are affected by it...least of which, they become desensitized to it. I would never let my 7 yr. old play Grand Theft Auto for that reason. That said, it isn't easy to determine as a parent what is appropriate for a child's age other than using the ratings system. It's the same thing with movies, but ultimately this responsibility does fall on the parent's shoulders, and unfortunately for many, video games and TV are what their children are mostly exposed to for long periods of unsupervised time.

Agreed on the "exposed to cruel violence are affected by it" - it is up to the parent to point out the difference between fiction and reality as far as movies and games go. "Teach your children well" - as I said "we" (he & I) played these games together - and my son has grown up a pacifist. Granted he joined the Marine Reserves as well as went to work at the local sheriff's department, but he turns the other cheek and walks away from silliness. As for those poor kids who witness abusive parents, gang slayings and random murders (I live in New Orleans), it is even more important to nuture and shield as well as give them a constructive outlet for the fear and rage they feel because of these situations.

[PlatyPius 5]

pretty much, something is wrong somewhere. children are not born evil it's something that develops in the wrong environment.

No, some are just born evil.

The Hitlers, Dahmers, and Gacys of the world can't all be products of "environment". I'm sorry, but it's just not possible. There have been too many chopf##ks who came from a good family with siblings who went on to normal productive lives for it to always be environment and upbringing.

I see the solution to this particular case as being pretty easy. Mother is "undocumented". Ship them all back home, wherever that might be. Bye Bye.

[rocks 494]

pretty much, something is wrong somewhere. children are not born evil it's something that develops in the wrong environment.

No, some are just born evil.

The Hitlers, Dahmers, and Gacys of the world can't all be products of "environment". I'm sorry, but it's just not possible. There have been too many chopf##ks who came from a good family with siblings who went on to normal productive lives for it to always be environment and upbringing.

Hitler had a troubled childhood, as his father was violent to him and violent towards his mother. Hitler himself said that, as a boy, he was often beaten by his father.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler#...od_and_heritage

[PlatyPius 5]

pretty much, something is wrong somewhere. children are not born evil it's something that develops in the wrong environment.

No, some are just born evil.

The Hitlers, Dahmers, and Gacys of the world can't all be products of "environment". I'm sorry, but it's just not possible. There have been too many chopf##ks who came from a good family with siblings who went on to normal productive lives for it to always be environment and upbringing.

Hitler had a troubled childhood, as his father was violent to him and violent towards his mother. Hitler himself said that, as a boy, he was often beaten by his father.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler#...od_and_heritage

"Hitlers....of the world" doesn't necessarily include Hitler himself.....

[rocks 494]

pretty much, something is wrong somewhere. children are not born evil it's something that develops in the wrong environment.

No, some are just born evil.

The Hitlers, Dahmers, and Gacys of the world can't all be products of "environment". I'm sorry, but it's just not possible. There have been too many chopf##ks who came from a good family with siblings who went on to normal productive lives for it to always be environment and upbringing.

Hitler had a troubled childhood, as his father was violent to him and violent towards his mother. Hitler himself said that, as a boy, he was often beaten by his father.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler#...od_and_heritage

"Hitlers....of the world" doesn't necessarily include Hitler himself.....

sure, i just knew he was abused as a child. no one is born evil though, when we are born we are innocent and know pretty much nothing. we are a product of our environment. come look at all the chav kids around here.