mena men and smoking

[notime4haterz 0]

I think you need to really take a hard look at the people you know and maybe make some new single mom friends.. I am saddened by this generalisation the most because its such a disservice to women who have struggled hard to do right by their kids and are dealing with being alone through no fault of their own

Yeah, it hits me in the face everyday, thank you. I work in a hospital in the poorest part of town. Almost all single moms, getting some kind of assistance or another. While the ones working for me, actually trying to take care of their kids without assistance, struggle to get by on meanial wages.

I have no desire to make friends with single moms. Their lifestyle does not match my own. Nothing in common. Not an attachment worth forming. I simply work with them and around them. It's enough for me. I don't have to become bestest, bestest friends to know what they go through.

[sereia 0]

LOL this post cracks me up. The funny thing is ...you both are saying very true generalizations. But you both can't get past the fact that each is generalizing the other!

Btw Loved Ali Zaoua!

Edited December 7, 2008 by Sheherazade

[doodlebugg 10]

3 more hours till i can have a virginia slim.

this thread has run it's course I guess.

[Beauty for Ashes 257]

Life isnt paradise in Mena even if in your life, you sit around getting 10,0000 dollars worth of gold and worshipped for your blondness (sic)

I'm sorry that I see the positive side to people, and don't go around trying to convince everyone that all MENA men, laws, life, society is terrible, because you had a bad marriage and were treated unkindly by your husband... And I'm sorry that my husband loves me, takes care of me, and "worships" me for my blondness. I'm sorry you missed the gravy train, but don't keep dumping on people because they aren't miserable like you.

And FYI. I was divorced. My first husband was Kuwaiti. Do I go around saying all Kuwaiti men are bad? Nope. And I also had no problem whatsoever getting remarried. I still got my dowry, a wedding, and love from him and his family. My divorce was never an issue.

So generalize all you want. I'm certain people here are intellegent enough to decipher truth from exaggeration.

You are the one that generalised about American single moms how we are all on drugs.. and drinking from depression and some how muslim society was free of those ills. There are pleny of positives to every where you live. As marked below, someone who actually LIVES in mena concurs with what I said ...No one said all of anyone is bad. But you went full on about how American society breeds a bunch of single moms, addcited to alcohol and anti depressants,,all getting used for sex and tossed. How is that looking for the positives..

I didnt miss the gravy train. I was born on it. My husband didnt have to buy his greencard. And most on here didnt either... They were in love and we took them for what they were..poor. I didnt look at my marriage as a gravy train because I was raised by parents who took me over seas and I have travelled and lived extensively overseas.. There was no price and never has been for my commitment or my life..A maher doesnt guarantee love or commitment. Thats something that you cannot buy... and no one is faulting you or your family for demanding a dowry. We dont do that in the US. We dont demand gold or a large sum of money for marriage. Thats a cultural difference.

And FYI, you are perpetuating social myths about single moms and how they live,exist and survive hardships. You are doing a disservice to any American you meet because when you repeat fallacies about American single mothers, you demean us. Take another look at alot of the women on these boards who are moral and did right by their american kids...You didnt get saddled with that burden.. I have an arab daughter whos dad is a complete zero and he camps in the mosque and its islam this and islam that and he gave nothing to his little girl for eid. Its her american family that will do for her this eid.. Take a look at the myths you are perpetuating yourself....I missed the gravy train but I sure havent said all mena people do anything of the sort...

You're just plain ignorant if you think that I said all single American moms are trash. I was simply saying that you're genralizing about a whole region of people and we also have our own problems here too.

And it's always about you...your husband, your children, your hard life, your loss...get over it already!

Constantly talking about my dowry and buying a greencard only proves you're jealous...period.

And I'm done talking to you, because I can already imagine the 10 page post that will follow this one...and it will just repeat the same thing over and over and over

To Bridget, I hope you and your hubby can both kick the smoking habit together and live happily and healthily ever after. That is what the original post was about right?

Thank you . I will take my "loss"under your advisement and make sure "I get over it already". Its a baby not a loss and he was muslim and he was buried islamically and I endured losing a child and the cultural issues that come with adhering to islamic tradition. I would think from a practical point of view as presently being married to a mena person and having travelled extensively through mena and interacting with mena people and having a child with a mena person that I would have something to give these boards

As far as being jealous of you? Please please please get some treatment for your narcissism. I dont know if its in your culture to be so conceited ,,,, but oh my god,, you are by far one of the most conceited people I have ever run across in my life. Its absolutely ridiculous and I have no idea who you have interacted with in your life but the American culture is not a materialistic one when it comes to matters of the heart. Honor and being a hero to your wife and to your country is a big thing here.. not how much you can buy her so everyone can show off how much their husband does for them.. I have never run across a more vain person than you .. but then again... you may not be vain. This just may be your culture to think everyone is jealous of this person and that person for how much gold they have and garbage like that.. being jealous of Oprah Winfrey and her lear jets makes sense. Being jealous of another mere mortal like myself? What exactly do you have to offer thats so extraordinary? I am sure I could find some things if I knew you but you certainly can put me into your haters crowd because I dont know you. If jealousy was part of my nature, I could find alot more suitable candidates than you to be jealous of.

Ill work hard on getting over things.. Thanks for your compassionate concern.

[notime4haterz 0]

LOL this post cracks me up. The funny thing is ...you both are saying very true generalizations. But you both can't get past the fact that each is generalizing the other!

Btw Loved Ali Zaoua!

No, I just keep telling her that she's generalizing, and that I don't think it's all that bad...I used the example of women in the US. I figured she could relate to that and see that her generalizations were exaggerated. But that's not what happened...

[Beauty for Ashes 257]

I think you need to really take a hard look at the people you know and maybe make some new single mom friends.. I am saddened by this generalisation the most because its such a disservice to women who have struggled hard to do right by their kids and are dealing with being alone through no fault of their own

Yeah, it hits me in the face everyday, thank you. I work in a hospital in the poorest part of town. Almost all single moms, getting some kind of assistance or another. While the ones working for me, actually trying to take care of their kids without assistance, struggle to get by on meanial wages.

I have no desire to make friends with single moms. Their lifestyle does not match my own. Nothing in common. Not an attachment worth forming. I simply work with them and around them. It's enough for me. I don't have to become bestest, bestest friends to know what they go through.

Oh... their lifestyle doesnt match your lifestyle?

Yes those menial lifestyles of the single moms... they have nothing to offer you...Their friendships are not worth forming...

Yes and all of their wages are menial....and why befriend them?

sigh

[notime4haterz 0]

Life isnt paradise in Mena even if in your life, you sit around getting 10,0000 dollars worth of gold and worshipped for your blondness (sic)

I'm sorry that I see the positive side to people, and don't go around trying to convince everyone that all MENA men, laws, life, society is terrible, because you had a bad marriage and were treated unkindly by your husband... And I'm sorry that my husband loves me, takes care of me, and "worships" me for my blondness. I'm sorry you missed the gravy train, but don't keep dumping on people because they aren't miserable like you.

And FYI. I was divorced. My first husband was Kuwaiti. Do I go around saying all Kuwaiti men are bad? Nope. And I also had no problem whatsoever getting remarried. I still got my dowry, a wedding, and love from him and his family. My divorce was never an issue.

So generalize all you want. I'm certain people here are intellegent enough to decipher truth from exaggeration.

You are the one that generalised about American single moms how we are all on drugs.. and drinking from depression and some how muslim society was free of those ills. There are pleny of positives to every where you live. As marked below, someone who actually LIVES in mena concurs with what I said ...No one said all of anyone is bad. But you went full on about how American society breeds a bunch of single moms, addcited to alcohol and anti depressants,,all getting used for sex and tossed. How is that looking for the positives..

I didnt miss the gravy train. I was born on it. My husband didnt have to buy his greencard. And most on here didnt either... They were in love and we took them for what they were..poor. I didnt look at my marriage as a gravy train because I was raised by parents who took me over seas and I have travelled and lived extensively overseas.. There was no price and never has been for my commitment or my life..A maher doesnt guarantee love or commitment. Thats something that you cannot buy... and no one is faulting you or your family for demanding a dowry. We dont do that in the US. We dont demand gold or a large sum of money for marriage. Thats a cultural difference.

And FYI, you are perpetuating social myths about single moms and how they live,exist and survive hardships. You are doing a disservice to any American you meet because when you repeat fallacies about American single mothers, you demean us. Take another look at alot of the women on these boards who are moral and did right by their american kids...You didnt get saddled with that burden.. I have an arab daughter whos dad is a complete zero and he camps in the mosque and its islam this and islam that and he gave nothing to his little girl for eid. Its her american family that will do for her this eid.. Take a look at the myths you are perpetuating yourself....I missed the gravy train but I sure havent said all mena people do anything of the sort...

You're just plain ignorant if you think that I said all single American moms are trash. I was simply saying that you're genralizing about a whole region of people and we also have our own problems here too.

And it's always about you...your husband, your children, your hard life, your loss...get over it already!

Constantly talking about my dowry and buying a greencard only proves you're jealous...period.

And I'm done talking to you, because I can already imagine the 10 page post that will follow this one...and it will just repeat the same thing over and over and over

To Bridget, I hope you and your hubby can both kick the smoking habit together and live happily and healthily ever after. That is what the original post was about right?

Thank you . I will take my "loss"under your advisement and make sure "I get over it already". Its a baby not a loss and he was muslim and he was buried islamically and I endured losing a child and the cultural issues that come with adhering to islamic tradition. I would think from a practical point of view as presently being married to a mena person and having travelled extensively through mena and interacting with mena people and having a child with a mena person that I would have something to give these boards

As far as being jealous of you? Please please please get some treatment for your narcissism. I dont know if its in your culture to be so conceited ,,,, but oh my god,, you are by far one of the most conceited people I have ever run across in my life. Its absolutely ridiculous and I have no idea who you have interacted with in your life but the American culture is not a materialistic one when it comes to matters of the heart. Honor and being a hero to your wife and to your country is a big thing here.. not how much you can buy her so everyone can show off how much their husband does for them.. I have never run across a more vain person than you .. but then again... you may not be vain. This just may be your culture to think everyone is jealous of this person and that person for how much gold they have and garbage like that.. being jealous of Oprah Winfrey and her lear jets makes sense. Being jealous of another mere mortal like myself? What exactly do you have to offer thats so extraordinary? I am sure I could find some things if I knew you but you certainly can put me into your haters crowd because I dont know you. If jealousy was part of my nature, I could find alot more suitable candidates than you to be jealous of.

Ill work hard on getting over things.. Thanks for your compassionate concern.

I was waiting for you to bring up the same subject again... Well you know, I had cancer in 2006. I don't go around telling people "go get cancer and then compare your hardships to my own"...we all go through things. Some of us don't harp on it and try to make others feel guilty for our losses. I certainly don't go around telling people what I went through with my cancer, to get pity, or to try and justify when I'm being miserable. I also don't mention it every second of every day to every single person on the planet! Again, you tackle the hardship, you work hard to overcome it, and you move on. You don't have to forget what happened, but you don't have to keep replaying everything over and over and over again either. My home (and 2 of my neighbors homes) was/were burglarized 3 days ago. I don't go around constantly repeating what happened, over and over and over again.

[notime4haterz 0]

I think you need to really take a hard look at the people you know and maybe make some new single mom friends.. I am saddened by this generalisation the most because its such a disservice to women who have struggled hard to do right by their kids and are dealing with being alone through no fault of their own

Yeah, it hits me in the face everyday, thank you. I work in a hospital in the poorest part of town. Almost all single moms, getting some kind of assistance or another. While the ones working for me, actually trying to take care of their kids without assistance, struggle to get by on meanial wages.

I have no desire to make friends with single moms. Their lifestyle does not match my own. Nothing in common. Not an attachment worth forming. I simply work with them and around them. It's enough for me. I don't have to become bestest, bestest friends to know what they go through.

Oh... their lifestyle doesnt match your lifestyle?

Yes those menial lifestyles of the single moms... they have nothing to offer you...Their friendships are not worth forming...

Yes and all of their wages are menial....and why befriend them?

sigh

Yep, exactly. I've been used enough by poor people with a sob story that forget your name as soon as you pay for whatever they were crying for. I'm so done with that! I'll help organized charities and my family. Someone with a real need (and not just a con) will go to an organized charity for assistance. They don't need to be friends with me. And last I checked, most single moms don't travel or visit the same places I visit, they don't eat the same places I go out to eat, they don't attend the same exhibits, lectures, CE's, etc that I attend. This isn't about money. They simply don't have the time. They have other obligations that they must take care of first. Whereas, I have none. And if they do these things, it's usually family oriented, or something their kids can enjoy, and always when they're out of school. Again, not something that I would be a part of. So why is that such a problem for you to accept???

[sereia 0]

[Beauty for Ashes 257]

LOL this post cracks me up. The funny thing is ...you both are saying very true generalizations. But you both can't get past the fact that each is generalizing the other!

Btw Loved Ali Zaoua!

Its a great movie to watch when you are SLUMMING it with a single mom..

[Beauty for Ashes 257]

I think you need to really take a hard look at the people you know and maybe make some new single mom friends.. I am saddened by this generalisation the most because its such a disservice to women who have struggled hard to do right by their kids and are dealing with being alone through no fault of their own

Yeah, it hits me in the face everyday, thank you. I work in a hospital in the poorest part of town. Almost all single moms, getting some kind of assistance or another. While the ones working for me, actually trying to take care of their kids without assistance, struggle to get by on meanial wages.

I have no desire to make friends with single moms. Their lifestyle does not match my own. Nothing in common. Not an attachment worth forming. I simply work with them and around them. It's enough for me. I don't have to become bestest, bestest friends to know what they go through.

Oh... their lifestyle doesnt match your lifestyle?

Yes those menial lifestyles of the single moms... they have nothing to offer you...Their friendships are not worth forming...

Yes and all of their wages are menial....and why befriend them?

sigh

Yep, exactly. I've been used enough by poor people with a sob story that forget your name as soon as you pay for whatever they were crying for. I'm so done with that! I'll help organized charities and my family. Someone with a real need (and not just a con) will go to an organized charity for assistance. They don't need to be friends with me. And last I checked, most single moms don't travel or visit the same places I visit, they don't eat the same places I go out to eat, they don't attend the same exhibits, lectures, CE's, etc that I attend. This isn't about money. They simply don't have the time. They have other obligations that they must take care of first. Whereas, I have none. And if they do these things, it's usually family oriented, or something their kids can enjoy, and always when they're out of school. Again, not something that I would be a part of. So why is that such a problem for you to accept???

I dont think you get out much if you think that single moms dont eat where you eat or share the same interests.

You are very ignorant and arrogant beyond belief. You not only have bizarre perceptions of Americans, your perception of single mothers not having anything in common with you is so off that it teeters on making a complete narcissistic ### out of yourself.. You are so arrogant and conceited that its comic..

You are not that interesting and sorry to burst your bubble , you are just average to look at as well ( sorry I know looks .. or YOUR LOOKS are very important to your assesment of yourself...)

[Beauty for Ashes 257]

Life isnt paradise in Mena even if in your life, you sit around getting 10,0000 dollars worth of gold and worshipped for your blondness (sic)

I'm sorry that I see the positive side to people, and don't go around trying to convince everyone that all MENA men, laws, life, society is terrible, because you had a bad marriage and were treated unkindly by your husband... And I'm sorry that my husband loves me, takes care of me, and "worships" me for my blondness. I'm sorry you missed the gravy train, but don't keep dumping on people because they aren't miserable like you.

And FYI. I was divorced. My first husband was Kuwaiti. Do I go around saying all Kuwaiti men are bad? Nope. And I also had no problem whatsoever getting remarried. I still got my dowry, a wedding, and love from him and his family. My divorce was never an issue.

So generalize all you want. I'm certain people here are intellegent enough to decipher truth from exaggeration.

You are the one that generalised about American single moms how we are all on drugs.. and drinking from depression and some how muslim society was free of those ills. There are pleny of positives to every where you live. As marked below, someone who actually LIVES in mena concurs with what I said ...No one said all of anyone is bad. But you went full on about how American society breeds a bunch of single moms, addcited to alcohol and anti depressants,,all getting used for sex and tossed. How is that looking for the positives..

I didnt miss the gravy train. I was born on it. My husband didnt have to buy his greencard. And most on here didnt either... They were in love and we took them for what they were..poor. I didnt look at my marriage as a gravy train because I was raised by parents who took me over seas and I have travelled and lived extensively overseas.. There was no price and never has been for my commitment or my life..A maher doesnt guarantee love or commitment. Thats something that you cannot buy... and no one is faulting you or your family for demanding a dowry. We dont do that in the US. We dont demand gold or a large sum of money for marriage. Thats a cultural difference.

And FYI, you are perpetuating social myths about single moms and how they live,exist and survive hardships. You are doing a disservice to any American you meet because when you repeat fallacies about American single mothers, you demean us. Take another look at alot of the women on these boards who are moral and did right by their american kids...You didnt get saddled with that burden.. I have an arab daughter whos dad is a complete zero and he camps in the mosque and its islam this and islam that and he gave nothing to his little girl for eid. Its her american family that will do for her this eid.. Take a look at the myths you are perpetuating yourself....I missed the gravy train but I sure havent said all mena people do anything of the sort...

You're just plain ignorant if you think that I said all single American moms are trash. I was simply saying that you're genralizing about a whole region of people and we also have our own problems here too.

And it's always about you...your husband, your children, your hard life, your loss...get over it already!

Constantly talking about my dowry and buying a greencard only proves you're jealous...period.

And I'm done talking to you, because I can already imagine the 10 page post that will follow this one...and it will just repeat the same thing over and over and over

To Bridget, I hope you and your hubby can both kick the smoking habit together and live happily and healthily ever after. That is what the original post was about right?

Thank you . I will take my "loss"under your advisement and make sure "I get over it already". Its a baby not a loss and he was muslim and he was buried islamically and I endured losing a child and the cultural issues that come with adhering to islamic tradition. I would think from a practical point of view as presently being married to a mena person and having travelled extensively through mena and interacting with mena people and having a child with a mena person that I would have something to give these boards

As far as being jealous of you? Please please please get some treatment for your narcissism. I dont know if its in your culture to be so conceited ,,,, but oh my god,, you are by far one of the most conceited people I have ever run across in my life. Its absolutely ridiculous and I have no idea who you have interacted with in your life but the American culture is not a materialistic one when it comes to matters of the heart. Honor and being a hero to your wife and to your country is a big thing here.. not how much you can buy her so everyone can show off how much their husband does for them.. I have never run across a more vain person than you .. but then again... you may not be vain. This just may be your culture to think everyone is jealous of this person and that person for how much gold they have and garbage like that.. being jealous of Oprah Winfrey and her lear jets makes sense. Being jealous of another mere mortal like myself? What exactly do you have to offer thats so extraordinary? I am sure I could find some things if I knew you but you certainly can put me into your haters crowd because I dont know you. If jealousy was part of my nature, I could find alot more suitable candidates than you to be jealous of.

Ill work hard on getting over things.. Thanks for your compassionate concern.

I was waiting for you to bring up the same subject again... Well you know, I had cancer in 2006. I don't go around telling people "go get cancer and then compare your hardships to my own"...we all go through things. Some of us don't harp on it and try to make others feel guilty for our losses. I certainly don't go around telling people what I went through with my cancer, to get pity, or to try and justify when I'm being miserable. I also don't mention it every second of every day to every single person on the planet! Again, you tackle the hardship, you work hard to overcome it, and you move on. You don't have to forget what happened, but you don't have to keep replaying everything over and over and over again either. My home (and 2 of my neighbors homes) was/were burglarized 3 days ago. I don't go around constantly repeating what happened, over and over and over again.

I have been on these boards through my entire immigration process sharing both my life... my immigration process and the birth and death of my child like many of the other mena moms who share their time lines. A person from the boards was physically with me and I have gleaned tremendous amounts from the boards and from the truths they share on here. You have no idea what loss I went through and its relevancy to mena culture and the people here as well who were the people with me as I waited through a year and a half.

And if I want to post every single day about my child, its ok. I have been here long enough on the boards to do so.

The things you said about single mothers are so mortifying ,,, I think Ill just let your posts just stink by themselves.. they are so low lifed and base..

[Beauty for Ashes 257]

I think you need to really take a hard look at the people you know and maybe make some new single mom friends.. I am saddened by this generalisation the most because its such a disservice to women who have struggled hard to do right by their kids and are dealing with being alone through no fault of their own

Yeah, it hits me in the face everyday, thank you. I work in a hospital in the poorest part of town. Almost all single moms, getting some kind of assistance or another. While the ones working for me, actually trying to take care of their kids without assistance, struggle to get by on meanial wages.

I have no desire to make friends with single moms. Their lifestyle does not match my own. Nothing in common. Not an attachment worth forming. I simply work with them and around them. It's enough for me. I don't have to become bestest, bestest friends to know what they go through.

Oh... their lifestyle doesnt match your lifestyle?

Yes those menial lifestyles of the single moms... they have nothing to offer you...Their friendships are not worth forming...

Yes and all of their wages are menial....and why befriend them?

sigh

Yep, exactly. I've been used enough by poor people with a sob story that forget your name as soon as you pay for whatever they were crying for. I'm so done with that! I'll help organized charities and my family. Someone with a real need (and not just a con) will go to an organized charity for assistance. They don't need to be friends with me. And last I checked, most single moms don't travel or visit the same places I visit, they don't eat the same places I go out to eat, they don't attend the same exhibits, lectures, CE's, etc that I attend. This isn't about money. They simply don't have the time. They have other obligations that they must take care of first. Whereas, I have none. And if they do these things, it's usually family oriented, or something their kids can enjoy, and always when they're out of school. Again, not something that I would be a part of. So why is that such a problem for you to accept???

Lots of single mothers are brilliant writers,lecturers, college professors, medical examiners... every profession in the world has single mothers in their ranks.. I dont think most single mothers have time for people like you.. not the other way around. .. Are you implying that somehow single mothers are not educated or interested in cultural things?

sigh sigh sigh and sigh

[William33 110]

Closed at the request of the OP.