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What's the bet India does not have idiots crying about the Patriot Act. Then again not to many nations do. Yes even by those who where not attacked.

If you want to live in a country where its routine to beat someone half to death in custody and pull out their fingernails to obtain a forced confession - and subsequently hang them in a sports stadium you might want to consider moving to one of those high-quality of life, freedom loving countries like Libya, Iran or Saudi Arabia where such things are commonplace.

What do you suggest, pamper the guy with the finest food and wine? Let him go? Believe whatever he tells them? Beat him until they get the anwer they want? Investigate whatever information he provides? Damned if they do, damned if they don't.

Actually I was kind of wondering why there is always this tendency to on the one hand slam countries which practice torture, do not observe the Geneva Convention or otherwise have poor human rights records; and at the same time find something lacking in our own society - as if those "other" countries represent an example that we ought to be following.

It seems very contradictory.

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Actually I was kind of wondering why there is always this tendency to on the one hand slam countries which practice torture, do not observe the Geneva Convention or otherwise have poor human rights records; and at the same time find something lacking in our own society - as if those "other" countries represent an example that we ought to be following.

It seems very contradictory.

It is contradictory. What can be done about it? Today we have major incidents of terror, how do you get to the bottom of it? Playing by the rules doesn't work, and torture doesn't work.

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Is "truth serum" code for a steel toed boot?
They're going to need way more than that given the Naziesque mindset of Qasab.

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Is "truth serum" code for a steel toed boot?
They're going to need way more than that given the Naziesque mindset of Qasab.

All of this is rather moot - as the guy has already confessed (apparently).

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one guy taking the brunt of retaliation and responsibility for what the other 9+ terrorists did...well

I would say that is one heck of a punishment but no punishment can ever give much compensation for

what happened over those 3 days in Mumbai.

I pray GOD will give him what he deserves eternally :angry:

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Is "truth serum" code for a steel toed boot?
They're going to need way more than that given the Naziesque mindset of Qasab.

Well, it's a good start.

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What has happened to the mentality and humanity of some of you? Were any of you thinking along the same lines when the abortion clinic bomber was captured? Or Timothy McVeigh? We've had a long line of criminals who have been caught after doing some of the most heinous crimes - should we torture them? I'm with Paul Daniels on this....the kind of mindset towards torturing another human being is baffling...and troubling. And for the God fearing religious types - where in your holy book does God say to torture someone?

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He is telling intelligence where he put some bombs??? Uh where is the bomb sniffing dogs and such??

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yeah but as an upcoming world economy with incoming business, wouldnt they want to keep a good rep for protecting thier as well as world citizens, esp as they are portrayed to the world as democracy and not a military state...not to mention the effects thi will be on tourism industry

august 2004 I-129 filed (neb)

DEC 2004 Approved

interview: SEOUL

MArch 21st , 2005AR for special security clearance,washington

May 18th tranfer case from Seoul to Islammabad

June 21st security clearance done

June 28th online at the embassy in Islamabad

waiting for paper transfer and the good word

OCTOBER 14TH 2005 Interview Number 2: ISLAMABAD, PK

AR number 2 sent to DOS per Islamabad (2 cable request)

Nov 22 okd updated financial and etc proof accepted / embassy waiting for security cables

dec 20th one cable back waiting on 2nd

Jan 17th.. good word recieved. SECURITY CHECKS ALL CLEAR!!! DOS says embassy to contact him within two weeks!!!!!!

FEBRUARY 10th, 2006 VISA RECIEVED!!! They called him In via phone, stamped his passort and sent him on his way!!!

FEB 28th WELCOME HOME>>>POE CHICAGO did not even look at xray, few questions. one hour wait at Poe

march 10th marriage (nikkah at the islamic center)

aug 2006 AOS interview, cond 2 yr GC arrived september

June 2008 applied for removal of conditions on permant residency aka awaiting for 10 yr greencard

Dec 2008 10yr green card approved, no interview.

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What has happened to the mentality and humanity of some of you?

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

Yes, let's match irrationality with more irrationality....and call it progress.

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The question is surely with whether the methods employed in interrogations are actually effective (which should surely dictate whether or not they are necessary).

How can you protect your own or foreign citizens by doing things that don't work? Is it to actually "protect" people and extract useful information or is it simply about creating an impression that this is the case?

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