I need your help

[IzelNAl 0]

Hello everyone,

Izel went to her interview today and received a pink and blue slip. The blue slip says that they need more information about my income.

I have my own business and reported $40,000.00 annual income on my I 134. I submitted 11 months of bank statements from my business. My 2007 income tax return. My W-2's from a job that I had last year and a 1099 for income from unemployment as well as income from my business. I have a contract with a customer for a retainer of $1500.00 per month which the customer gave me and I submitted along with 4 months worth of pay stubs from that customer. I also submitted one of each of bank statements from 2 different personal accounts showing a moderate amount of money in each. I also submitted my deposits into Izels account for the allowance I give her each month. I hate to be so open about this but I am really confused as to what else I can provide that will show I can support Izel.

The blue slip just says that they need more supporting evidence about my financial situation and whether I can actually support Izel or not. Izel went back to the Embassy and the person she talked to told her I needed to submit pay stubs from my employer. DUH? I called the Embassy and got the same dumb ### answers that I have always received when I have called there. "Just submit something Sir but we can't tell you what".

If anyone has any constructive information or ideas as to what the consulate might be looking for, please let me know. Thanks for the replys.

[mRs StOcKwElL 1]

Hello everyone,

Izel went to her interview today and received a pink and blue slip. The blue slip says that they need more information about my income.

I have my own business and reported $40,000.00 annual income on my I 134. I submitted 11 months of bank statements from my business. My 2007 income tax return. My W-2's from a job that I had last year and a 1099 for income from unemployment as well as income from my business. I have a contract with a customer for a retainer of $1500.00 per month which the customer gave me and I submitted along with 4 months worth of pay stubs from that customer. I also submitted one of each of bank statements from 2 different personal accounts showing a moderate amount of money in each. I also submitted my deposits into Izels account for the allowance I give her each month. I hate to be so open about this but I am really confused as to what else I can provide that will show I can support Izel.

The blue slip just says that they need more supporting evidence about my financial situation and whether I can actually support Izel or not. Izel went back to the Embassy and the person she talked to told her I needed to submit pay stubs from my employer. DUH? I called the Embassy and got the same dumb ### answers that I have always received when I have called there. "Just submit something Sir but we can't tell you what".

If anyone has any constructive information or ideas as to what the consulate might be looking for, please let me know. Thanks for the replys.

just submit of what documents that they need, you will be fine...i guess visa is already approved in that case.

[tedjen 0]

If I may ask, did your 2007 tax return enough (reach or above poverty line)?

[IzelNAl 0]

Hello everyone,

Izel went to her interview today and received a pink and blue slip. The blue slip says that they need more information about my income.

I have my own business and reported $40,000.00 annual income on my I 134. I submitted 11 months of bank statements from my business. My 2007 income tax return. My W-2's from a job that I had last year and a 1099 for income from unemployment as well as income from my business. I have a contract with a customer for a retainer of $1500.00 per month which the customer gave me and I submitted along with 4 months worth of pay stubs from that customer. I also submitted one of each of bank statements from 2 different personal accounts showing a moderate amount of money in each. I also submitted my deposits into Izels account for the allowance I give her each month. I hate to be so open about this but I am really confused as to what else I can provide that will show I can support Izel.

The blue slip just says that they need more supporting evidence about my financial situation and whether I can actually support Izel or not. Izel went back to the Embassy and the person she talked to told her I needed to submit pay stubs from my employer. DUH? I called the Embassy and got the same dumb ### answers that I have always received when I have called there. "Just submit something Sir but we can't tell you what".

If anyone has any constructive information or ideas as to what the consulate might be looking for, please let me know. Thanks for the replys.

just submit of what documents that they need, you will be fine...i guess visa is already approved in that case.

Please tell me which documents they need.

If I may ask, did your 2007 tax return enough (reach or above poverty line)?

I have read elsewhere that the poverty level is $17,000. If that is true, I was well above that level.

[Thai family 0]

Hello everyone,

Izel went to her interview today and received a pink and blue slip. The blue slip says that they need more information about my income.

I have my own business and reported $40,000.00 annual income on my I 134. I submitted 11 months of bank statements from my business. My 2007 income tax return. My W-2's from a job that I had last year and a 1099 for income from unemployment as well as income from my business. I have a contract with a customer for a retainer of $1500.00 per month which the customer gave me and I submitted along with 4 months worth of pay stubs from that customer. I also submitted one of each of bank statements from 2 different personal accounts showing a moderate amount of money in each. I also submitted my deposits into Izels account for the allowance I give her each month. I hate to be so open about this but I am really confused as to what else I can provide that will show I can support Izel.

The blue slip just says that they need more supporting evidence about my financial situation and whether I can actually support Izel or not. Izel went back to the Embassy and the person she talked to told her I needed to submit pay stubs from my employer. DUH? I called the Embassy and got the same dumb ### answers that I have always received when I have called there. "Just submit something Sir but we can't tell you what".

If anyone has any constructive information or ideas as to what the consulate might be looking for, please let me know. Thanks for the replys.

just submit of what documents that they need, you will be fine...i guess visa is already approved in that case.

Please tell me which documents they need.

If I may ask, did your 2007 tax return enough (reach or above poverty line)?

I have read elsewhere that the poverty level is $17,000. If that is true, I was well above that level.

If you can't get the answer out of Manila, you might trying calling the visa info line in DC. They were helpful to us when we were working on I-134 questions. Just be prepared to wait on hold. That is where writing a notarized letter explaining one's financial situation came from. It's a good forum in which to make a case that she won't become a public charge. Even if everything else was sufficient, a letter might help.

Thai Mom

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[tedjen 0]

If your 2007 tax return is above poverty line then what other documents they are asking to prove your income?

I think you should consider Thai family's suggestion...

[chris-lei 1]

Hello everyone,

Izel went to her interview today and received a pink and blue slip. The blue slip says that they need more information about my income.

I have my own business and reported $40,000.00 annual income on my I 134. I submitted 11 months of bank statements from my business. My 2007 income tax return. My W-2's from a job that I had last year and a 1099 for income from unemployment as well as income from my business. I have a contract with a customer for a retainer of $1500.00 per month which the customer gave me and I submitted along with 4 months worth of pay stubs from that customer. I also submitted one of each of bank statements from 2 different personal accounts showing a moderate amount of money in each. I also submitted my deposits into Izels account for the allowance I give her each month. I hate to be so open about this but I am really confused as to what else I can provide that will show I can support Izel.

The blue slip just says that they need more supporting evidence about my financial situation and whether I can actually support Izel or not. Izel went back to the Embassy and the person she talked to told her I needed to submit pay stubs from my employer. DUH? I called the Embassy and got the same dumb ### answers that I have always received when I have called there. "Just submit something Sir but we can't tell you what".

If anyone has any constructive information or ideas as to what the consulate might be looking for, please let me know. Thanks for the replys.

Do you have any other assests like house or land in the US? You can show them the deed of those.

[IzelNAl 0]

If your 2007 tax return is above poverty line then what other documents they are asking to prove your income?

I think you should consider Thai family's suggestion...

That is the question I am asking as well. Izel said the counselor really grilled her. Maybe the counselor has it in for cute Filipinas that are coming to America to marry old farts like me?

I wrote down the number and will be calling as soon as they open in the morning. It is 2 am here and I can't sleep now because of this BS. I pulled all of the checks I have written to myself from my business this year and it is a substantial amount. The bank sends copies, not originals to me with my statement and they are printed on official bank paper.I will send these along with any other documents I can think of in the next 2 days or so.

Do you have any other assests like house or land in the US? You can show them the deed of those.

I have a house and I can dig up the deed. I do not see how this can prove income but the whole thing is stupid so maybe it will help.

I want to thank everyone so far for the suggestions and support. The journey is crazy and long but made a little more tolerable with my VJ friends.

[tedjen 0]

Do you have tax return for your business? I think you should provide your fiancee' a copy of that too (to prove that you do have the business)...

During my interview I brought also the tax return of my husband's business, though the pre-screener didn't ask that from me, I gave it to him--I said my husband owns the business (my husband's own income is more than enough but I still gave him that)...

[IzelNAl 0]

Do you have tax return for your business? I think you should provide your fiancee' a copy of that too (to prove that you do have the business)...

During my interview I brought also the tax return of my husband's business, though the pre-screener didn't ask that from me, I gave it to him--I said my husband owns the business (my husband's own income is more than enough but I still gave him that)...

I assume your husband has a corporation. He would have a separate income tax for his business and personal. I am a sole proprietor and my business and personal taxes are combined.

I am quite certain that the counselor was having a bad day and took it out on Izel and me.Nothing I can do about that but play the game the best I can.

Edited December 2, 2008 by IzelNAl

[tedjen 0]

^^ yes, it's a corporation... Well, all I can say is gather whatever you think will help... title of properties you have, show the current accounts your business has (more if these accounts are years old)...

Probably they want a "established" income... remember that US economy is not good nowadays and many businesses (small businesses) are closing... you know what i mean..

[tallcoolone 102]

Put your company letter head on a piece of paper.

Say something like " John Doe works for "XXX" company with an annaul income of $40,000.

Have someone else sign it and submit it.

I know is sounds stupid since you won the company, but I bet it will work.

I think they are just looking for documentation to put in a file.

[Señorita Tessa 1]

It appears that the American Consulate casts doubts on your single proprietorship’s income and also on the probability of constantly earning $40,000 annually in succeeding years.

If I were you, Al, in addition to all the solicited and unsolicited financial information that your fiancée has so far presented, and to those you plan on to additionally present to the Consulate, I would have the following papers ready at hand for submission:

1. Copy of business’ latest financial statements, i.e. Statement of Assets and Liabilities as of Nov. 30, 2008 and Profit and Loss Statement for 11 months ending Nov. 30, 2008.

2. Copy of Cash Flow Statement for 11 months ending Nov. 30, 2008.

3. Copy of the business’ projected Earnings Statements for the next 3 years. (I suppose the Consulate needs proof of sustained income of some sort).

Your accountant, if any, can prepare and attest to the veracity of the statements. If you do not have an accountant, you can prepare them yourself and you certify to their correctness, but these reports must present fairly the financial condition of your business and not prompt you into committing perjury.

You know what? That 1099 that you got from Olympia might have fueled this hullabaloo .... Good luck, anyhow!

[Dakine 26]

If I were you I'd get tax transcripts from IRS and submit them. You can get them in one day and fax them to your beneficiary.

1-800 829-1040.

[IzelNAl 0]

It appears that the American Consulate casts doubts on your single proprietorship's income and also on the probability of constantly earning $40,000 annually in succeeding years.

If I were you, Al, in addition to all the solicited and unsolicited financial information that your fiancée has so far presented, and to those you plan on to additionally present to the Consulate, I would have the following papers ready at hand for submission:

1. Copy of business' latest financial statements, i.e. Statement of Assets and Liabilities as of Nov. 30, 2008 and Profit and Loss Statement for 11 months ending Nov. 30, 2008.

2. Copy of Cash Flow Statement for 11 months ending Nov. 30, 2008.

3. Copy of the business' projected Earnings Statements for the next 3 years. (I suppose the Consulate needs proof of sustained income of some sort).

Your accountant, if any, can prepare and attest to the veracity of the statements. If you do not have an accountant, you can prepare them yourself and you certify to their correctness, but these reports must present fairly the financial condition of your business and not prompt you into committing perjury.

You know what? That 1099 that you got from Olympia might have fueled this hullabaloo .... Good luck, anyhow!

ST,

In the theoretical world, you would be 100 percent correct. In fact, if I were submitting this information to you, I would already have sent the forms you asked for. The problem is we are dealing with reality here. The reality that this woman didn't read and try to understand the doc's I sent her. She didn't look at the bank statements. She didn't read the contract from my customer. She probably skimmed over my 15 page tax report and saw one thing that sent up a red flag that she has been trained to look for and to reject on the spot. It may have been the 1099, it may have been an entry on line XX or it may have been the shear volume of paper, probably 50 pages, that was handed to her that put her into "defense" mode.

Izel went with another VJer for the interview and the other person had a tenth of the information that I had. She was in and out in just a few minutes while Izel was grilled for 30 minutes and then given a blue slip to boot. How may people on this site have submitted a ITR and a couple of paycheck stubs and been accepted without question? I think most. While I, on the other hand submitted my life story and was rejected.

You give this counselor way to much credit for being able to read and understand any sort of financial information. I imagine she would look at a P&L and go into shock. I have submitted financial information to others before in like situations and I always get the "deer in the headlites" look from them, and then the rejection. I need to keep it very simple.

At this point, I am going to submit my P&L YTD (just in case you are right and I am wrong) for 2008 and substantiate with the bank statements I sent in already. I am going to send copies of all of my paychecks, printed on the bank stationary and substantiated with the bank statements. I am also going to print a receivables and payables sheet, including copies of the invoices, and make it something simple that would be understood by any layman.

I want you to know that I do not take your information in this post lightly. I just feel the need to stay simple and easy. If you have any other thoughts or ideas, let me know.