Why churches fear gay marriage

[Danno 1,228]

Personally, I don't give much credence to the 'celibate' role of the priest notion anyway, because the whole thing plays into the 'original sin' and the inherent 'soiledness' of women, which is not a notion I can hold with at all. Priests have as much right to a sex life as anyone else. No one has a right to a sex life with a child, period!

I'm not aware of any connection between "Original sin" and "vows of celibacy".

Original sin seems to get hung around Adams neck more than women. I am not aware of any

Christian denom. placing any special burden about original sin on women.

Even the account of Eve in the garden seems to go rather easy ... considering she took the fruit first, then talked her husband into a taste.

At least that's how I recall the story.

As far as I know, a Vow of Celibacy (and other less famous steps) are taken by those who

wish to commit themselves "without any reservations" to Gods calling/service.

There are many rolls and offices within the Catholic church for those married.

Perhaps someone who is a Catholic can better comment.

[Ban Hammer 13,365]

In theory at least doesn't make any difference whether a person is gay or heterosexual or even indifferent, just as long as they are not having sex with anyone else or with themselves for that matter. Sex is only permitted between a lawful married man and woman without any restriction for the purpose of procreation of children. And not only procreation, that is just the start of it, proper education and the welfare of the children are equally important. Wonder if that includes tons of video games, cars, and other forms of entertainment?

Celibacy has a simple meaning, no sex in any form, even a sin to think about it. Ha, was teased at one time in my life for going against my church's teaching for practicing birth control. Guess I was.

Conclusion: Len + Bren are sinners and are going to hell. Oh well. ####### happens.

[Chica Yeyé 41]

OMFG

Can I steal it????

[Peikko 1,575]

Personally, I don't give much credence to the 'celibate' role of the priest notion anyway, because the whole thing plays into the 'original sin' and the inherent 'soiledness' of women, which is not a notion I can hold with at all. Priests have as much right to a sex life as anyone else. No one has a right to a sex life with a child, period!

I'm not aware of any connection between "Original sin" and "vows of celibacy".

Original sin seems to get hung around Adams neck more than women. I am not aware of any

Christian denom. placing any special burden about original sin on women.

Even the account of Eve in the garden seems to go rather easy ... considering she took the fruit first, then talked her husband into a taste.

At least that's how I recall the story.

As far as I know, a Vow of Celibacy (and other less famous steps) are taken by those who

wish to commit themselves "without any reservations" to Gods calling/service.

There are many rolls and offices within the Catholic church for those married.

Perhaps someone who is a Catholic can better comment.

You don't know a lot about the history of Christianity and the Catholic church it would seem - perhaps you should do some research.

[Peikko 1,575]

Ask yourself first why it is that god would care about man's abstinence from sex? Why has it taken on this importance in the idea that a celibate person is more likely to be 'closer' to god. It's the most fundamental question that you seem to be all at sea over, strange. After all, there is nothing more natural than sexual relations and procreation.

[Ling Ling 22]

There was a time when Catholic priest were allowed to marry (women).

Wonder how many folks here know why they're no longer allowed to marry?

Could this decision by the Vatican have had, in some instances, the opposite effect

of its intended purpose?

[Chica Yeyé 41]

There was a time when Catholic priest were allowed to marry (women).

Wonder how many folks here know why they're no longer allowed to marry?

Could this decision by the Vatican have had, in some instances, the opposite effect

of its intended purpose?

Just wanted to say hello to brother Ling Ling!

[Ling Ling 22]

There was a time when Catholic priest were allowed to marry (women).

Wonder how many folks here know why they're no longer allowed to marry?

Could this decision by the Vatican have had, in some instances, the opposite effect

of its intended purpose?

Just wanted to say hello to brother Ling Ling!

Hey sister Len

[Ban Hammer 13,365]

OMFG

Can I steal it????

if you can carry it.

[Danno 1,228]

Ask yourself first why it is that god would care about man's abstinence from sex? Why has it taken on this importance in the idea that a celibate person is more likely to be 'closer' to god. It's the most fundamental question that you seem to be all at sea over, strange. After all, there is nothing more natural than sexual relations and procreation.

Was this your NEWS FLASH... that sexual relations are natural?

Here is a news flash back atcha, "Eating" is also pretty natural and abstaining from it is another act people in many religions practice to diff degrees.

You are way to hung up on the sex angle when it is much broader than that.

[Peikko 1,575]

I am not hung up on sex. People who demand that other people behave in a certain way just to satisfy their 'fears' about sin are the ones who are 'hung up'. However, logic and Danno simply don't mix.

As for venturing along the 'fasting' tangent. Nope, not going there mate.

[Danno 1,228]

Personally, I don't give much credence to the 'celibate' role of the priest notion anyway, because the whole thing plays into the 'original sin' and the inherent 'soiledness' of women, which is not a notion I can hold with at all. Priests have as much right to a sex life as anyone else. No one has a right to a sex life with a child, period!

I'm not aware of any connection between "Original sin" and "vows of celibacy".

Original sin seems to get hung around Adams neck more than women. I am not aware of any

Christian denom. placing any special burden about original sin on women.

Even the account of Eve in the garden seems to go rather easy ... considering she took the fruit first, then talked her husband into a taste.

At least that's how I recall the story.

As far as I know, a Vow of Celibacy (and other less famous steps) are taken by those who

wish to commit themselves "without any reservations" to Gods calling/service.

There are many rolls and offices within the Catholic church for those married.

Perhaps someone who is a Catholic can better comment.

You don't know a lot about the history of Christianity and the Catholic church it would seem - perhaps you should do some research.

Since you seem to know much more about the topic... why not correct my misinformation rather than just do a Drive-by on me?

[NickD 203]

Gay marriages wasn't even an issue until Bush brought it up a couple of years ago to get our minds off of Iraq, now it's an issue. Let's talk about Iraq instead.

[alienlovechild 75]

Personally, I don't give much credence to the 'celibate' role of the priest notion anyway, because the whole thing plays into the 'original sin' and the inherent 'soiledness' of women, which is not a notion I can hold with at all. Priests have as much right to a sex life as anyone else. No one has a right to a sex life with a child, period!

I'm not aware of any connection between "Original sin" and "vows of celibacy".

Original sin seems to get hung around Adams neck more than women. I am not aware of any

Christian denom. placing any special burden about original sin on women.

Even the account of Eve in the garden seems to go rather easy ... considering she took the fruit first, then talked her husband into a taste.

At least that's how I recall the story.

As far as I know, a Vow of Celibacy (and other less famous steps) are taken by those who

wish to commit themselves "without any reservations" to Gods calling/service.

There are many rolls and offices within the Catholic church for those married.

Perhaps someone who is a Catholic can better comment.

You don't know a lot about the history of Christianity and the Catholic church it would seem - perhaps you should do some research.

Since you seem to know much more about the topic... why not correct my misinformation rather than just do a Drive-by on me?

She's too smart to give you any answers on any subject. Typical of posters who demand much and offer so little in return beyond the usual slogans.

[alienlovechild 75]

Gay marriages wasn't even an issue until Bush brought it up a couple of years ago to get our minds off of Iraq, now it's an issue. Let's talk about Iraq instead.

Gay marriage (and marriage in general) isn't a Federal issue but one left to the states so Bush had nothing to do with gays in pushing for marriages. It has nothing to do with Iraq except in your own mind.