K-3 visa and Vermont, whats the point?

[honestlyspkng 0]

Hey All

I thought the K-3 was designed to allow us to be together while we wait for the CR-1.If the processing time is the same, what is the point of going through all the ####### for the K-3? The posted processing times, if accurate, shows that both of our petitions will begin processing at the same time. Could this be part of the problem with the service centers and why it is taking so long? If the processing time is going to be the same, why do they provide false hopes of us being reunited sooner with the K-3 visa after we filed the I-130 when it seems this only adds to their workload trying to process two sets of documents at the same time? Just trying to look at the situation with common sense and logical thinking. Good luck to all. Hope you all have a great Christmas gift grom USCIS.

[cjgator 2]

Hello. Your post is very well put, I have been saying the same thing to anyone who would listen for almost two months now. The whole purpose of the K-3 is to get your spouse over more quickly while you wait for the I-130, that is the way the LIFE Act designed the K-3. What is glaringly apparent is that USCIS/VSC is completely ignoring that purpose and simply approving the I-130's and I-129F's simultaneously, thus creating virtually no time advantage for going K-3. The only way I see that some time advantage could be gained is if you are able to get am I-129F NOA1 within days of your I-130 NOA1, and even in that situation, the time gained, at best, is probably less than one month. What I have learned, unfortunately much too late, is that, increased speed in getting your mate to the States, at least at VSC, is really only accoplished through the K-1 process.

Good luck to you.

CJ-G

Hey All

I thought the K-3 was designed to allow us to be together while we wait for the CR-1.If the processing time is the same, what is the point of going through all the ####### for the K-3? The posted processing times, if accurate, shows that both of our petitions will begin processing at the same time. Could this be part of the problem with the service centers and why it is taking so long? If the processing time is going to be the same, why do they provide false hopes of us being reunited sooner with the K-3 visa after we filed the I-130 when it seems this only adds to their workload trying to process two sets of documents at the same time? Just trying to look at the situation with common sense and logical thinking. Good luck to all. Hope you all have a great Christmas gift grom USCIS.

[andreea 0]

Does K3 require a fileing fee, and then more fees on the way? do u have to start with I130 for IR1/CR1 and just after that u r alowed to file for the speed promising K3 (which basicly means u r going through 2 processes same time. file for 2 visas same time)? after the long wait to be aproved, does K3 take a little shorter than the IR1/CR1 way, and u r tempted to follow the shorter way? does the K3 route cost more at the end than IR1/CR1 but they make it seem tempting because after NOA2 is shorter route? after u answer these questions, I think is clear why we r advsied to file for K3 after I-130.

[wayno 9]

I seem to understand that a lot of cases the I-130 and I-129f are approved about the same time. My question is, honestly, how nuch longer will it take for the CR1 vs the K3 after the petitions are approved? Doesn't the CR1 require more paperwork and forms to file before interview time? Doesn't it still seem that the K3 is still a little quicker in regards to how long till VISA is in your hand?

I'm trying to figgure out because for me it seems the K3 would be the best way to go if It would come one month sooner.

Edited November 30, 2008 by wayno

[honestlyspkng 0]

Perhaps if we could get the e-mail addresses of those in congress who supervise the work of USCIS and ask them these questions.

After waiting so long for the approval of the K-3, it will be a simple matter of waiting another month or so for the I-130, and we will not have to adjust status which for us would be 2000.00 because of the child. Trouble is, time sensitive documents like police certificates, tax and credit statements which are good only for a short period and take up to a month to renew. We are ok with waiting a year if we must but I would go see her in Jaunary or February if I know this will be the case. If I make plans now for January, will I be approved in February and have to return in March? Because USCIS seems intent on secrecy, we can make no plans for the future, and as far as the LIFE act is concerned, it is apparently misunderstood and maybe totally ignored in Vermont. Were I inside the service center, I would see that the K-3 took precedence in order to assure the government that the adjustment of status payment would be money available to the government. If expedited service was available, I would pay that too. The people there do not seem to understand that the people who petition have lives too, and are still entitled to the pursuit of happiness,even if it is with a spouse who was born in another country. I am ready to leave the country now, just to be with my family. Maybe Canada, maybe England, where it is possible for hard working honest people to be treated that way instead of a potential threat to the country. I made a request of my government to allow my wife, the one I happened to meet in a different country, and her six year old child, my family now, to come here so we can be together as the LIFE act said was possible. I have done all they have asked, including submission of documents and of course the money that was required, but in return for that, I have no idea what I will receive or when. Constantly changing dates and processing times have shown me that not only is it impossible to speak with someone at the customer service number who can give any insight as to where our petions are and when processing will begin, but it apears that USCIS is unsure of the dates it is actually processing now. All you need to do is check the processing times on a weekly basis as I have done, and you will see the dates go from month to month, sometimes forwards, sometimes backwards, and when they are totally unsure, or maybe just to keep everyone confused, they will show maybe six months instead. Truth is they dont really know. But, if you are sponsoring someone for employment, and you pay one thousand dollars, you are assured a visa in twenty days or a definite reason for refusal and chance for appeal. It seems that money can speed things along, but for those who simply want life to be normal, we do not have sufficient reason to deserve such an opportunity. In these economic times, and the government making promises for lower taxes, stimulus packages that will cost billions of dollars, and the need to replace this money in some manner, does it make any sense to make it possible for petitioners to pay for expedited service for any reason?

I think it makes good sense not only for myself but for so many others who have waited longer than we have. In this way, at least we can play a role in the timing of our processing. Of course, I am back to common sense and logical thinking. An attorney once told me that was a problem for me, because the world does not work this way. I still hope he was wrong

[Y's_habibitk 2]

The CR1 timeline at NVC is longer, the wait time for an interview is longer. Its only like 2-3 months tacked on to the whole process though...

When I first started researching our options I found this mysterious "k3 visa" heh All that I read was pointing to the fact that it was MUCH faster than the CR1. I assumed as most would think logically; that this meant a shorter time at USCIS also. Well, not so much, as we all see here.

[CitizenNov_k3 0]

The CR1 timeline at NVC is longer, the wait time for an interview is longer. Its only like 2-3 months tacked on to the whole process though...

When I first started researching our options I found this mysterious "k3 visa" heh All that I read was pointing to the fact that it was MUCH faster than the CR1. I assumed as most would think logically; that this meant a shorter time at USCIS also. Well, not so much, as we all see here.

is there any chance that I-130 gets approved first before k3..i'm asking this question bec, i filed my 130 in jun and later upgraded it to citizen status in nov. per rep, they will process i-130 based on the filing date which is jun..i-129 was filed in nov..

i'm thinking may be 130 will get aprovved before.

[Y's_habibitk 2]

The CR1 timeline at NVC is longer, the wait time for an interview is longer. Its only like 2-3 months tacked on to the whole process though...

When I first started researching our options I found this mysterious "k3 visa" heh All that I read was pointing to the fact that it was MUCH faster than the CR1. I assumed as most would think logically; that this meant a shorter time at USCIS also. Well, not so much, as we all see here.

is there any chance that I-130 gets approved first before k3..i'm asking this question bec, i filed my 130 in jun and later upgraded it to citizen status in nov. per rep, they will process i-130 based on the filing date which is jun..i-129 was filed in nov..

i'm thinking may be 130 will get aprovved before.

The trend lately has been that the 129f(k3) gets approved before the cr1 if they arent approved at the same time. I dont think I have seen anyone post that their cr1(130) was approved before the 129f(k3)

a while back(early this year,late last year) they were "dropping" the 129f when the 130 was approved, but that looks as though it has stopped and they are back to approving at the same time or the 129f first then the 130 shortly behind.

I dont know, since you have such a gap between filing the 130 & 129f. Maybe someone can help with a similar experience.

[pushbrk 13,068]

"Approval" or "processing time" for a petition is just step two in a multple step process. The time difference between actually obtaining a CR1 or K3 visa comes after petition approval. The difference can be as little as a few weeks or as much as many months.

[daboyz 36]

One thing to consider. CR-1 will take longer at NVC than K-3, but the interviews get scheduled quicker for CR-1. If you follow lingche's shortcuts, it's almost no difference. I have seen people get though NVC in 21 days with the CR-1. Also, there is no adjustment of status with CR-1. And the best thing, if you have been married for 2 years or more when you arrive, you will get a 10 year green card, and not have to bother with either Adjustment of Status, or Lifting of Conditions.

[pushbrk 13,068]

One thing to consider. CR-1 will take longer at NVC than K-3, but the interviews get scheduled quicker for CR-1. If you follow lingche's shortcuts, it's almost no difference. I have seen people get though NVC in 21 days with the CR-1. Also, there is no adjustment of status with CR-1. And the best thing, if you have been married for 2 years or more when you arrive, you will get a 10 year green card, and not have to bother with either Adjustment of Status, or Lifting of Conditions.

Whether interviews are scheduled sooner or not depends on the Consulate.

[Y's_habibitk 2]

One thing to consider. CR-1 will take longer at NVC than K-3, but the interviews get scheduled quicker for CR-1. If you follow lingche's shortcuts, it's almost no difference. I have seen people get though NVC in 21 days with the CR-1. Also, there is no adjustment of status with CR-1. And the best thing, if you have been married for 2 years or more when you arrive, you will get a 10 year green card, and not have to bother with either Adjustment of Status, or Lifting of Conditions.

Whether interviews are scheduled sooner or not depends on the Consulate.

Yep, this is really where the wait time differs between the two visas.

[pushbrk 13,068]

One thing to consider. CR-1 will take longer at NVC than K-3, but the interviews get scheduled quicker for CR-1. If you follow lingche's shortcuts, it's almost no difference. I have seen people get though NVC in 21 days with the CR-1. Also, there is no adjustment of status with CR-1. And the best thing, if you have been married for 2 years or more when you arrive, you will get a 10 year green card, and not have to bother with either Adjustment of Status, or Lifting of Conditions.

Whether interviews are scheduled sooner or not depends on the Consulate.

Yep, this is really where the wait time differs between the two visas.

Well, that and the NVC stage.

[Y's_habibitk 2]

One thing to consider. CR-1 will take longer at NVC than K-3, but the interviews get scheduled quicker for CR-1. If you follow lingche's shortcuts, it's almost no difference. I have seen people get though NVC in 21 days with the CR-1. Also, there is no adjustment of status with CR-1. And the best thing, if you have been married for 2 years or more when you arrive, you will get a 10 year green card, and not have to bother with either Adjustment of Status, or Lifting of Conditions.

Whether interviews are scheduled sooner or not depends on the Consulate.

Yep, this is really where the wait time differs between the two visas.

Well, that and the NVC stage.

Yep, i said that in the beginning of the thread..what i meant by "really" was...the biggest difference in processing times can lie at the consulate stage. As someone else said.. you CAN get through NVC pretty fast I guess, albeit loger than a k3 "pitstop"

[pushbrk 13,068]

One thing to consider. CR-1 will take longer at NVC than K-3, but the interviews get scheduled quicker for CR-1. If you follow lingche's shortcuts, it's almost no difference. I have seen people get though NVC in 21 days with the CR-1. Also, there is no adjustment of status with CR-1. And the best thing, if you have been married for 2 years or more when you arrive, you will get a 10 year green card, and not have to bother with either Adjustment of Status, or Lifting of Conditions.

Whether interviews are scheduled sooner or not depends on the Consulate.

Yep, this is really where the wait time differs between the two visas.

Well, that and the NVC stage.

Yep, i said that in the beginning of the thread..what i meant by "really" was...the biggest difference in processing times can lie at the consulate stage. As someone else said.. you CAN get through NVC pretty fast I guess, albeit loger than a k3 "pitstop"

People who use the latest shortcuts can get through NVC in a matter of six weeks or so but when you look at overall timelines most take a lot longer. In general, NVC is the more significant source of delay. It just doesn't need to be.