Discussing money

[Sofiyya 1,687]

It takes no effort at all on my part to find you a total ####### wad VW, no effort at all and my 'aura' hasn't turned black because of it.

It takes no effort on my part to notice how often you express that thought.

[Peikko 1,575]

... I'm moved to admit that I do sometimes take advantage of the power some give me to affect their emotional state. It's power given freely; I'm not above capitalizing on it.

I know.

The power of A.J. I think this deserves

It takes no effort at all on my part to find you a total ####### wad VW, no effort at all and my 'aura' hasn't turned black because of it.

It takes no effort on my part to notice how often you express that thought.

Ah yes, my 'obsession' with you. You are so predictable, it's entirely hysterical.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

... I'm moved to admit that I do sometimes take advantage of the power some give me to affect their emotional state. It's power given freely; I'm not above capitalizing on it.

I know.

I can't, however, make a postive person negative, or a negative person positive. They are who they are, and react accordingly. The Talmud says we see the world not as it is, but as we are. So true!

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

The Talmud says we see the world not as it is, but as we are. So true!

Gotta love those crazy Jews.

[Peikko 1,575]

You can't? My god, your powers are not universal! Perhaps you should sue someone?

Edited November 27, 2008 by Madame Cleo

[Ban Hammer 13,575]

So, why are we here then?

i post, therefore i am.

[Ban Hammer 13,575]

I'll admit to being bemused by my ability to do so little and have such a great impact, tho.

You really shouldn't underestimate your ability to be very unlikable on this message-board, VW. It really is quite a skill.

are we supposed to be liked on vj? if so, you're short on skills with the pakistani crowd.

[Brad and Vika 129]

I'll admit to being bemused by my ability to do so little and have such a great impact, tho.

You really shouldn't underestimate your ability to be very unlikable on this message-board, VW. It really is quite a skill.

are we supposed to be liked on vj? if so, you're short on skills with the pakistani crowd.

Are Pakis a majority here?

[Ban Hammer 13,575]

I'll admit to being bemused by my ability to do so little and have such a great impact, tho.

You really shouldn't underestimate your ability to be very unlikable on this message-board, VW. It really is quite a skill.

are we supposed to be liked on vj? if so, you're short on skills with the pakistani crowd.

Are Pakis a majority here?

aj is well known with them

Edited November 28, 2008 by charles!

[rebeccajo 14]

Aficionado, was any of this any help? I didn't see anyone bragging, but the perception of it is real. The taboo allows one to be resigned to having little or no money, to be judgemental and cyncial toward those who do, but doesn't allow for those who have plenty to express happiness or comfort about it. You have to wonder who this dicotomy serves.

I dont have ANY problems with someone being happy or content in having plenty of money.

I also would appreciate hearing some advise on how they pulled themselves from "just making it" to "rolling in the dough".

What I dont appreciate is someone having said they have a family trust fund telling people that they dont have money because they choose not to. Maybe you didnt mean to come across that way, but it sounded snobby.

Everyone has a choice to improve their financial situation..I agree. This could mean building a business for some and for others it could mean just saving enough for emergencies. Lisa

editted-- THIS is why people dont talk openly about money LOL

I see a contradiction in the two bolded statements. I believe that unless you have some sort of involuntary impediment, retardation, addiction, mental issues, it is very possible to gain financial freedom in this country. It is a choice, the same kind of choice that one makes about any priority they set in life. There is nothing snobby about being positive about anyone's ability to do well in life.

I think you missed my point in the next sentence. I dont think someone has to have a disability to be living paycheck to paycheck. I dont think it means that they dont have any drive either.

I agree that people can change their priorities through hard work and perseverance and become successful.

But I think advice and opinions on how to do that are best received from people who have actually accomplished it.

We are all born into our life circumstances with no choice in the matter. Some people are born into wealth and trust funds; others into poverty. The rest of us - somewhere in the middle of the road. Those of us in the middle have more chances to improve our lot than those less fortunate.

I think it's really odd that some people who were fortunate enough to have been born into the trust fund stratosphere don't realize how exactly alike they are to those who are impoverished. We read their commentary about "teet suckers" and their dismay with "entitlement programs" like nationalized medicine. I wonder if it ever occurs to them that by having been born into wealth they are living off the sweat of another's brow just as much as a welfare baby is? True, it may not be a life lived off the taxpayer dollar, but it's also not a position to come from wherein there's a whole lot of credible advice they can offer the middle-class masses about rising up and bettering themselves.

Edited November 28, 2008 by rebeccajo

[Brad and Vika 129]

We are all born into our life circumstances with no choice in the matter. Some people are born into wealth and trust funds; others into poverty. The rest of us - somewhere in the middle of the road. Those of us in the middle have more chances to improve our lot than those less fortunate.

I think it's really odd that some people who were fortunate enough to have been born into the trust fund stratosphere don't realize how exactly alike they are to those who are impoverished. We read their commentary about "teet suckers" and their dismay with "entitlement programs" like nationalized medicine. I wonder if it ever occurs to them that by having been born into wealth they are living off the sweat of another's brow just as much as a welfare baby is? True, it may not be a life lived off the taxpayer dollar, but it's also not a position to come from wherein there's a whole lot of credible advice they can offer the middle-class masses about rising up and bettering themselves.

And they are equally likely to ignore the basic rules posted above to improve their position.

[PlatyPius 5]

Aficionado, was any of this any help? I didn't see anyone bragging, but the perception of it is real. The taboo allows one to be resigned to having little or no money, to be judgemental and cyncial toward those who do, but doesn't allow for those who have plenty to express happiness or comfort about it. You have to wonder who this dicotomy serves.

I dont have ANY problems with someone being happy or content in having plenty of money.

I also would appreciate hearing some advise on how they pulled themselves from "just making it" to "rolling in the dough".

What I dont appreciate is someone having said they have a family trust fund telling people that they dont have money because they choose not to. Maybe you didnt mean to come across that way, but it sounded snobby.

Everyone has a choice to improve their financial situation..I agree. This could mean building a business for some and for others it could mean just saving enough for emergencies. Lisa

editted-- THIS is why people dont talk openly about money LOL

I see a contradiction in the two bolded statements. I believe that unless you have some sort of involuntary impediment, retardation, addiction, mental issues, it is very possible to gain financial freedom in this country. It is a choice, the same kind of choice that one makes about any priority they set in life. There is nothing snobby about being positive about anyone's ability to do well in life.

I think you missed my point in the next sentence. I dont think someone has to have a disability to be living paycheck to paycheck. I dont think it means that they dont have any drive either.

I agree that people can change their priorities through hard work and perseverance and become successful.

But I think advice and opinions on how to do that are best received from people who have actually accomplished it.

We are all born into our life circumstances with no choice in the matter. Some people are born into wealth and trust funds; others into poverty. The rest of us - somewhere in the middle of the road. Those of us in the middle have more chances to improve our lot than those less fortunate.

I think it's really odd that some people who were fortunate enough to have been born into the trust fund stratosphere don't realize how exactly alike they are to those who are impoverished. We read their commentary about "teet suckers" and their dismay with "entitlement programs" like nationalized medicine. I wonder if it ever occurs to them that by having been born into wealth they are living off the sweat of another's brow just as much as a welfare baby is? True, it may not be a life lived off the taxpayer dollar, but it's also not a position to come from wherein there's a whole lot of credible advice they can offer the middle-class masses about rising up and bettering themselves.

Gosh I love you, RJ.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Aficionado, was any of this any help? I didn't see anyone bragging, but the perception of it is real. The taboo allows one to be resigned to having little or no money, to be judgemental and cyncial toward those who do, but doesn't allow for those who have plenty to express happiness or comfort about it. You have to wonder who this dicotomy serves.

I dont have ANY problems with someone being happy or content in having plenty of money.

I also would appreciate hearing some advise on how they pulled themselves from "just making it" to "rolling in the dough".

What I dont appreciate is someone having said they have a family trust fund telling people that they dont have money because they choose not to. Maybe you didnt mean to come across that way, but it sounded snobby.

Everyone has a choice to improve their financial situation..I agree. This could mean building a business for some and for others it could mean just saving enough for emergencies. Lisa

editted-- THIS is why people dont talk openly about money LOL

I see a contradiction in the two bolded statements. I believe that unless you have some sort of involuntary impediment, retardation, addiction, mental issues, it is very possible to gain financial freedom in this country. It is a choice, the same kind of choice that one makes about any priority they set in life. There is nothing snobby about being positive about anyone's ability to do well in life.

I think you missed my point in the next sentence. I dont think someone has to have a disability to be living paycheck to paycheck. I dont think it means that they dont have any drive either.

I agree that people can change their priorities through hard work and perseverance and become successful.

But I think advice and opinions on how to do that are best received from people who have actually accomplished it.

We are all born into our life circumstances with no choice in the matter. Some people are born into wealth and trust funds; others into poverty. The rest of us - somewhere in the middle of the road. Those of us in the middle have more chances to improve our lot than those less fortunate.

I think it's really odd that some people who were fortunate enough to have been born into the trust fund stratosphere don't realize how exactly alike they are to those who are impoverished. We read their commentary about "teet suckers" and their dismay with "entitlement programs" like nationalized medicine. I wonder if it ever occurs to them that by having been born into wealth they are living off the sweat of another's brow just as much as a welfare baby is? True, it may not be a life lived off the taxpayer dollar, but it's also not a position to come from wherein there's a whole lot of credible advice they can offer the middle-class masses about rising up and bettering themselves.

It's rather shortsighted to ASSume that a person born into money has attained nothing on their own and has nothing to offer to those who weren't and wish to gain wealth.To stereotype us provides license for you to be stereotyped, as well. neither is useful.

[PlatyPius 5]

Aficionado, was any of this any help? I didn't see anyone bragging, but the perception of it is real. The taboo allows one to be resigned to having little or no money, to be judgemental and cyncial toward those who do, but doesn't allow for those who have plenty to express happiness or comfort about it. You have to wonder who this dicotomy serves.

I dont have ANY problems with someone being happy or content in having plenty of money.

I also would appreciate hearing some advise on how they pulled themselves from "just making it" to "rolling in the dough".

What I dont appreciate is someone having said they have a family trust fund telling people that they dont have money because they choose not to. Maybe you didnt mean to come across that way, but it sounded snobby.

Everyone has a choice to improve their financial situation..I agree. This could mean building a business for some and for others it could mean just saving enough for emergencies. Lisa

editted-- THIS is why people dont talk openly about money LOL

I see a contradiction in the two bolded statements. I believe that unless you have some sort of involuntary impediment, retardation, addiction, mental issues, it is very possible to gain financial freedom in this country. It is a choice, the same kind of choice that one makes about any priority they set in life. There is nothing snobby about being positive about anyone's ability to do well in life.

I think you missed my point in the next sentence. I dont think someone has to have a disability to be living paycheck to paycheck. I dont think it means that they dont have any drive either.

I agree that people can change their priorities through hard work and perseverance and become successful.

But I think advice and opinions on how to do that are best received from people who have actually accomplished it.

We are all born into our life circumstances with no choice in the matter. Some people are born into wealth and trust funds; others into poverty. The rest of us - somewhere in the middle of the road. Those of us in the middle have more chances to improve our lot than those less fortunate.

I think it's really odd that some people who were fortunate enough to have been born into the trust fund stratosphere don't realize how exactly alike they are to those who are impoverished. We read their commentary about "teet suckers" and their dismay with "entitlement programs" like nationalized medicine. I wonder if it ever occurs to them that by having been born into wealth they are living off the sweat of another's brow just as much as a welfare baby is? True, it may not be a life lived off the taxpayer dollar, but it's also not a position to come from wherein there's a whole lot of credible advice they can offer the middle-class masses about rising up and bettering themselves.

It's rather shortsighted to ASSume that a person born into money has attained nothing on their own and has nothing to offer to those who weren't and wish to gain wealth.To stereotype us provides license for you to be stereotyped, as well. neither is useful.

Just quoting so everyone can see what you did there....

[PlatyPius 5]