Bush Pardons 14 commutes prison sentences

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WASHINGTON — President George W. Bush has granted pardons to 14 individuals and commuted the prison sentences of two others convicted of misdeeds ranging from drug offenses to tax evasion, from wildlife violations to bank embezzlement,

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/24/b...s_n_146162.html

[Mags 112]

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[nighthawk 0]

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[Mags 112]

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All we need now is a bunch of pro-celebrity wrestlers in here and the day is complete.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Did I read that right - the president's "pardon" is absolute?

So could he "theoretically" pardon Charles Manson if he were so inclined?

[almaty 19]

what about leonard peltier?????????

Alleged trial irregularities

There has been debate over Peltier’s guilt and the fairness of his trial. Several allegations have been made by Peltier’s supporters which they claim point to his innocence, and all of these have been disputed by the FBI:

An FBI agent who testified that the agents followed a pickup truck onto the scene (a vehicle that could not be tied to Peltier) is alleged to have later changed his account to describe a red and white van, a vehicle type which Peltier did drive. Further, as the FBI did not record radio communications in 1975, there was an unresolved discrepancy between Agents as to whether Williams said he was pursuing a "red and white van" or "pickup truck."

Three witnesses testified they saw Peltier approach the slain officers' vehicle. They later alleged that the FBI had threatened and forced them to testify. The FBI answered that the witnesses' testimony was not necessary for conviction.

An FBI ballistics expert testified that a shell casing found near the dead agents' bodies matched the gun tied to Peltier. Critics argued that an FBI teletype stating the firing pin of the recovered weapon did not match the shell casings proved that Peltier’s weapon was not the murder weapon. It was counter-argued in testimony by the FBI that although the marks from the firing pin did not match those on the casing, the firing pin had probably been replaced after the murders, and that the marks made by the rifle’s extractor were an exact match to the recovered weapon.

Edited November 25, 2008 by almaty

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Did I read that right - the president's "pardon" is absolute?

So could he "theoretically" pardon Charles Manson if he were so inclined?

yup

[Ban Hammer 13,342]

how about Ignacio Ramos and Jose Alonso Compean?

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

how about Ignacio Ramos and Jose Alonso Compean?

no one even knows who they are anymore

most probably think they're illegal mexicans

[Sprailenes 47]

what about leonard peltier?????????

Alleged trial irregularities

There has been debate over Peltier’s guilt and the fairness of his trial. Several allegations have been made by Peltier’s supporters which they claim point to his innocence, and all of these have been disputed by the FBI:

An FBI agent who testified that the agents followed a pickup truck onto the scene (a vehicle that could not be tied to Peltier) is alleged to have later changed his account to describe a red and white van, a vehicle type which Peltier did drive. Further, as the FBI did not record radio communications in 1975, there was an unresolved discrepancy between Agents as to whether Williams said he was pursuing a "red and white van" or "pickup truck."

Three witnesses testified they saw Peltier approach the slain officers' vehicle. They later alleged that the FBI had threatened and forced them to testify. The FBI answered that the witnesses' testimony was not necessary for conviction.

An FBI ballistics expert testified that a shell casing found near the dead agents' bodies matched the gun tied to Peltier. Critics argued that an FBI teletype stating the firing pin of the recovered weapon did not match the shell casings proved that Peltier’s weapon was not the murder weapon. It was counter-argued in testimony by the FBI that although the marks from the firing pin did not match those on the casing, the firing pin had probably been replaced after the murders, and that the marks made by the rifle’s extractor were an exact match to the recovered weapon.

I was just going to say this!!

Thank you almaty for pointing this out!

[Ban Hammer 13,342]

how about Ignacio Ramos and Jose Alonso Compean?

no one even knows who they are anymore

most probably think they're illegal mexicans

some of us haven't forgotten who they are.

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pardoning them would get in the way of bush's post-presidential career... he doesn't wanna piss off the mexican government... likely to be one of his biggest clients.

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how about Ignacio Ramos and Jose Alonso Compean?

no one even knows who they are anymore

most probably think they're illegal mexicans

Nope, they were just resentenced to 11 and 12 years by a federal court here in EP. That's what you get for hidding evidence and lying. The guy they shot was a scum, yes...but still it doesn't make it right to shoot and moreover try to hide it.

Edited November 25, 2008 by TävôLuDô

[JayJay 4]

WhaaaaaaaTTT? Bush PARDONED someone? He never did that during his tenure in Texas...hmmm...

Could it be he is losing his marbles? Ok well perhaps I didn't phrase that very well - here - let me try again: could it be that he's found some kind of spiritual opening in his soul?

Probably not. He's probably just having a laugh. Perhaps he's bored... *runs away*

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

how about Ignacio Ramos and Jose Alonso Compean?

no one even knows who they are anymore

most probably think they're illegal mexicans

Nope, they were just resentenced to 11 and 12 years by a federal court here in EP. That's what you get for hidding evidence and lying. The guy they shot was a scum, yes...but still it doesn't make it right to shoot and moreover try to hide it.

You don't think 11 years is excessive? I do.