Freedom of Movement in the MENA Countries?

[Aymsgirl 0]

I will Staashi...He always says use your mind logically when it comes to Islam. Why would one marry somebody that thinks that they can beat them and rape them and its ok...to me that's not logical and how is that good in God-Allah's eyes...treat your parents and wife/husband kindly next to God being your first priority....that's my motto and how we live are to lives in our home.

[Dr. A ♥ O 203]

And thank your Husband!

[Aymsgirl 0]

I will.

Edited November 24, 2008 by Aymsgirl

[notime4haterz 0]

Just curious...when you say someone "raped his wife" what exactly do you mean by that? Does that mean she says "no" and he tries to get some anyway? Does it mean he beats her to get it? Do you take it to mean the same as someone, like a stranger, who attacks a woman?

There is a ruling about the wife withholding sex and it's quite different than what I just read here. I will find it and post it.

[notime4haterz 0]

From Shaikh Al Munajid's site:

Praise be to Allaah.

The woman does not have the right to refuse her husband, rather she must respond to his request every time he calls her, so long as that will not harm her or keep her from doing an obligatory duty.

Al-Bukhaari (3237) and Muslim (1436) narrated that Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “If a man calls his wife to his bed and she refuses, and he spends the night angry with her, the angels curse her until morning.”

If she refuses with no excuse, she is disobeying and is being defiant (nushooz), and he is no longer obliged to spend on her and clothe her.

The husband should admonish her and remind her of the punishment of Allaah, and forsake her in her bed. He also has the right to hit her, in a manner that does not cause injury. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“As to those women on whose part you see ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (next) refuse to share their beds, (and last) beat them (lightly, if it is useful); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them means (of annoyance). Surely, Allaah is Ever Most High, Most Great”

[al-Nisa’ 4:34]

Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him) was asked what a husband should do if his wife refuses him when he asks for intimacy.

He replied:

It is not permissible for her to rebel against him or to withhold herself from him, rather if she refuses him and persists in doing so, he may hit her in a manner that does not cause injury, and she is not entitled to spending or a share of his time [in the case of plural marriage].” Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 32/279.

And he was asked about a man who has a wife who is rebellious and refuses intimacy – does she forfeit the right to maintenance and clothing, and what should she do?

He replied:

She forfeits her right to maintenance and clothing if she does not let him be intimate with her. He has the right to hit her if she persists in being defiant. It is not permissible for her to refuse intimacy if he asks for that, rather she is disobeying Allaah and His Messenger (by refusing). In al-Saheeh it says: “If a man calls his wife to his bed and she refuses, the One Who is in heaven will be angry with her until morning comes.”

From Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 32/278. The hadeeth was narrated by Muslim, 1736.

So the wife should be admonished first, and warned against defiance (nushooz) and of the anger of Allaah and the curse of the angels. If she does not respond, then the husband should forsake her in her bed, and if she does not respond to that, then he may hit her in a manner that does not cause injury. If none of these steps are effective, then he may stop spending on her maintenance and clothing, and he has the right to divorce her or to allow her to separate from him by khula’ in return for some financial settlement, such as giving up the mahr.

And Allaah knows best.

Islam Q&A

[Staashi 371]

Looks like the Prophet, PBUH, never took into account that a wife might have a headache, really bad cramps, or was just not up for helping her hubby get off.

Just my two cents.

[notime4haterz 0]

Looks like the Prophet, PBUH, never took into account that a wife might have a headache, really bad cramps, or was just not up for helping her hubby get off.

Just my two cents.

Actually he did, I have the rulings below...and intercourse during menstruation is absolutely forbidden.

Edited November 24, 2008 by narina77

[notime4haterz 0]

al-Fataawa al-Islamiyyah, 3/145, 146

It is not permissible for a husband to force his wife to do more than she is able to bear of intercourse. If she has an excuse such as being sick or unable to bear it, then she is not sinning if she refuses to have intercourse.

Al-Bahooti said:

The husband has the right to enjoy intimacy with his wife at any time so long as he does not distract her from obligatory religious duties or harm her. In that case he does not have the right to intimacy with her without her permission, because that is contrary to the idea of reasonable and kind treatment. So long as he does not distract her from that and does not harm her, then he has the right to intimacy.

From Al Munajid's site: It is forbidden to have intercourse with a woman when she is menstruating (having her period), because Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “They ask you concerning menstruation. Say: that is an adhaa (a harmful thing for a husband to have a sexual intercourse with his wife while she is having her menses), therefore keep away from women during menses and go not unto them till they have purified (from menses and have taken a bath). And when they have prufieied themselves, then go in unto them as Allaah has ordained for you (go in unto them in any manner as long as it is in their #######). Truly, Allaah loves those who turn unto Him in repentance and loves those who purify themselves (by taking a bath and cleaning and washing thoroughly their private parts, bodies, for their prayers, etc.).” [al-Baqarah 2:222].

Edited November 24, 2008 by narina77

[Staashi 371]

Excellent!

[Nothing1234 2]

The husband has the right to enjoy intimacy with his wife at any time so long as he does not distract her from obligatory religious duties or harm her...

Or tell your husband you think he has an STD and as a result this week will be forgoing your sexual obligation until his test results are in...I think a girl could pull that off a few times a year. (I'm in a goofy mood sorry if I offended anyone...lol)

[Staashi 371]

The husband has the right to enjoy intimacy with his wife at any time so long as he does not distract her from obligatory religious duties or harm her...

Or tell your husband you think he has an STD and as a result this week will be forgoing your sexual obligation until his test results are in...I think a girl could pull that off a few times a year. (I'm in a goofy mood sorry if I offended anyone...lol)

[Nagishkaw 510]

[Nothing1234 2]

Me thinks your laughing some where out there Nagi

[Zee Bee 61]

Classic example of people reading one hadith and not the others. I guess these "scholars" have ignored the fact that there is a hadith stating that "your wife has a right over you".

Or maybe that got lost in translation?

Or thrown in the trash?

Or its not "authentic" enough?

Its called having love and compassion for your wife. One shouldn't need a hadith to tell a husband when it is OK (apparently any time except when the woman has her period ) to have sex with his wife.

[Staashi 371]

Classic example of people reading one hadith and not the others. I guess these "scholars" have ignored the fact that there is a hadith stating that "your wife has a right over you".

Or maybe that got lost in translation?

Or thrown in the trash?

Or its not "authentic" enough?

Its called having love and compassion for your wife. One shouldn't need a hadith to tell a husband when it is OK (apparently any time except when the woman has her period ) to have sex with his wife.

Zee, always the quiet but elegant voice of reason.