"Whites" need only apply!

[HAL 9000 96]

That in bold is the biggie and the only thing in this thread coming from you that makes any (legal) sense. Being this, and since marriage is not just a biological phenomenon (unless you can bring forward biological evidence where other mammalian species carry out marriage ceremonies), then the state has no business regulating what two consenting adults do to celebrate their love for each other.

In case you haven't noticed...defining marriage and regulating private sexual behaviour is not in the same realm. Marriage is defined as being between one man and one woman in the vast majority of America. Anything else is something else.

Sure, but why do you confuse the two? Behavior is one thing while the definition of marriage is another. Your problem is that you are allowing your personal homophobia to overshadow what can be a very simple matter in the law books.

Homophobia? Is that your diagnosis Doc? What is the other dead horse the gay parity crowd pushes? Oh yeah...if you don't believe in gay parity then you must have latent homosexual tendencies ala Senator Larry Craig? Ha! That dog don't hunt either. Get real.

Dogs, dead horses... since you are the one slipping on slopes here, perhaps the diagnosis can be adjusted for your benefit as well. Keep going down that tangent of you like. You're still missing the entire point.

Monogamous homosexual marriage should be the same legally as monogamous heterosexual marriage. That's all they're fighting for and if you are seeing things then by all means write a book and get back to us once its done.

If you have Freudian issues then get help.

[rocks 494]

Monogamous homosexual marriage should be the same legally as monogamous heterosexual marriage. That's all they're fighting for

indeed. it's pretty basic. i don't see why it's so hard for these people to comprehend.

i wonder if the thought of captain sulu being happy makes them really mad.

[HAL 9000 96]

Monogamous homosexual marriage should be the same legally as monogamous heterosexual marriage. That's all they're fighting for

indeed. it's pretty basic. i don't see why it's so hard for these people to comprehend.

i wonder if the thought of captain sulu being happy makes them really mad.

Well I'm sure it really ticked off some of the die-hard homophobic Trekkies out there.

[Ban Hammer 13,659]

Monogamous homosexual marriage should be the same legally as monogamous heterosexual marriage. That's all they're fighting for

indeed. it's pretty basic. i don't see why it's so hard for these people to comprehend.

i wonder if the thought of captain sulu being happy makes them really mad.

the way that guy on the right is smiling, i'd say sulu had his phaser set to stun.

[rocks 494]

Monogamous homosexual marriage should be the same legally as monogamous heterosexual marriage. That's all they're fighting for

indeed. it's pretty basic. i don't see why it's so hard for these people to comprehend.

i wonder if the thought of captain sulu being happy makes them really mad.

the way that guy on the right is smiling, i'd say sulu had his phaser set to stun.

that's brad altman, they've been in a relationship for over 21 years. i wanted danno and the other culprits in this tread to see that not everyone who wants gay marriage rights is white and that homosexual couples can be as willingly monogamous as heterosexual couples.

[HAL 9000 96]

There are plenty of non-white homosexuals out there.

[Ban Hammer 13,659]

Monogamous homosexual marriage should be the same legally as monogamous heterosexual marriage. That's all they're fighting for

indeed. it's pretty basic. i don't see why it's so hard for these people to comprehend.

i wonder if the thought of captain sulu being happy makes them really mad.

the way that guy on the right is smiling, i'd say sulu had his phaser set to stun.

that's brad altman, they've been in a relationship for over 21 years. i wanted danno and the other culprits in this tread to see that not everyone who wants gay marriage rights is white and that homosexual couples can be as willingly monogamous as heterosexual couples.

i bet his dilithium crystals are drained.

[Danno 1,228]

that's brad altman, they've been in a relationship for over 21 years. i wanted danno and the other culprits in this tread to see that not everyone who wants gay marriage rights is white and that homosexual couples can be as willingly monogamous as heterosexual couples.

"Danno" never suggested Gays were only white.

What Danno did suggest was, those at these angry demonstrations over Prop 8, were mostly white.

I even posted a vid in downtown NYC (the most diverse city in the nation) to prove it.

In the USA, some 30% of new AIDS cases are from the African Community, Since AIDS is Still dominated primarily by Gays, only a fool would suggest only whites are Homos.

[rocks 494]

that's brad altman, they've been in a relationship for over 21 years. i wanted danno and the other culprits in this tread to see that not everyone who wants gay marriage rights is white and that homosexual couples can be as willingly monogamous as heterosexual couples.

"Danno" never suggested Gays were only white.

What Danno did suggest was, those at these angry demonstrations over Prop 8, were mostly white.

I even posted a vid in downtown NYC (the most diverse city in the nation) to prove it.

In the USA, some 30% of new AIDS cases are from the African Community, Since AIDS is Still dominated primarily by Gays, only a fool would suggest only whites are Homos.

i said that wants gay marriage rights. i didn't say gay. try reading, you might learn something.

[IAMX 3,055]

Boring? Then why do you respond like clockwork?

First of all I do not equate homosexuality with beastiality, pedophilia, nudists, etc. However you and your ilk still continue your line that society should embrace and cater to every minority and their ways. Yes...but in your world everybody and everything must be equal. It ain't. Homosexuality never can be in 100% parity with heterosexuality. It is biologically impossible. No matter how many times you and your ilk proclaim it to be.

So a hand full of elites get to decide what societal norms, customs, and culture are and impose them on the vast majority? Kind of sounds like a dictatorship to me. Is this your new vision of America? You will find that the vast majority of America don't want it and won't buy it, but you and your ilk want to impose it. H-m-m-m. What a wonderful new concept. Dictatorship for America.

BTW...the sodomy laws in many states were applicable to both homos and heteros. The state has no business regulating the private behaviour of consenting adults. Maybe in your world sodomy and marriage is the same thing. It ain't!

I find it rather ironic you call people "elite" who want to "impose" gay marriage upon.. well, no one. So the people who cannot get married, and those pushing for their rights, are elite, and not the ones trying to look down upon gays for their marriage? Hah. And you claim to have a realistic view? You're the one who sounds elitist.

Elitism is getting FAVORED treatment. If we are talking about who the elite are, it's everyone who can get married. Gays, seeking EQUAL treatment, and those who wish to see them get that so we can move the #### on, are entirely on the opposite end of the spectrum.

It's funny as hell you truly believe gay marriage is some arbitrary imposition upon you. Goes to show why beliefs cannot be taken seriously, as some people simply cannot make them secular.

[Danno 1,228]

Speaking of "rights" and all that.

How many of you Libs would say a "transvestite couple" should have the same rights to adopt children as a Conventional couple?

Talk to me.

[HAL 9000 96]

Speaking of "rights" and all that.

How many of you Libs would say a "transvestite couple" should have the same rights to adopt children as a Conventional couple?

Talk to me.

What do you want? Rights or a psychological perspective? Different thing there and OTT from the topic.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Speaking of "rights" and all that.

How many of you Libs would say a "transvestite couple" should have the same rights to adopt children as a Conventional couple?

Talk to me.

Noone has the "right" to adopt a child - which is why we have dedicated agencies to assess individual candidates on a case-by-case basis.

Edited November 24, 2008 by Paul Daniels

[rocks 494]

Speaking of "rights" and all that.

How many of you Libs would say a "transvestite couple" should have the same rights to adopt children as a Conventional couple?

Talk to me.

What do you want? Rights or a psychological perspective? Different thing there and OTT from the topic.

what's worse. a child growing up in care with no parents or a child growing up with parents that are the same sex?

[Chica Yeyé 41]

Speaking of "rights" and all that.

How many of you Libs would say a "transvestite couple" should have the same rights to adopt children as a Conventional couple?

Talk to me.

I would. And it's called transgendered, not transvestite --- but i bet you don't know the difference.

Edited November 24, 2008 by *Len*