Former Obama opponent now suing to prove President-elect's citizenship

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Truth isn't convenient.

Denying the basic fundamentals allows the rumours to be perpetuated indefinately.

[Ling Ling 22]

I have reliable sources that have informed me that

the President-Elect's birth status is fundamentally sound.

Anybody who thinks he's not a natural born USC,

is as crazy as a soup sandwich.

'Nuff said.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I do know Republicans in CA who up until very recently continued to repeat that stuff about Obama's lapel pin or where his hand was during the pledge of allegiance. Its neither here nor there that the rumours were subsequently debunked - but they persist because people want them to be true.

Edited November 20, 2008 by Paul Daniels

[rebeccajo 14]

USC's -

You probably still have the birth certificate you used to bring your loved one here to the US - the one you had to order from the courthouse of the county wherein you were born.

Take it out and look at the top of it. What it is called?

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

It does seem strange that people could seriously believe that a major political party would risk jeopardising its own interests by selecting and promoting a presidential candidate who wasn't properly vetted according to basic rules of eligibility.

I suppose stranger things have happened - but it really does sound like grasping at straws. And it isn't lost of me that many of these sorts of criticisms aimed at Obama seem to have a very specific, limited appeal. All of this stuff seems to be about accentuating this idea of Obama's "otherness" and how he isn't "one of us".

I absolutly agree with your first Paragraph and a little of your second but when you strayed off on this suggestion.

<<All of this stuff seems to be about accentuating this idea of Obama's "otherness" and how he isn't "one of us">

you present "yourself" as the kooky one.

It's all about Politics ... and using the "rules" to-the-dot, to further their objective.

It has nothing about "race" which is your clear implication.

You often have worthwhile contributions in your posts but you do seem to "see racism" too often where none exists. what's up with that?

Racism where none exists? Come back when you've got an argument that doesn't involve snatching words out of the air, or borrowing the phraseology from Talk Radio pundits.

Quite simply - this birth certificate ####### comes on the back of the allegations of Obama's associations with terrorism, with his being a muslim, silly allegations over lapel pins and "fist jabs" and with his "Marxist Socialism".

All of these things serve a very singular purpose.

Perhaps you would explain why you won't address Rebeccajo's answer to your question.

From where I sit it would seem that you're just using your own ignorance to perpetuate baseless rumours. So yes - I'm afraid it is tin-foil hat time for you...

You beat me to it. Certificate of Live Birth = Birth Certificate. What more do you need Danno?

Danno needs..... oh don't get me started.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

USC's -

You probably still have the birth certificate you used to bring your loved one here to the US - the one you had to order from the courthouse of the county wherein you were born.

Take it out and look at the top of it. What it is called?

New Jersey State Department of Health

Certificate of Live Birth

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

USC's -

You probably still have the birth certificate you used to bring your loved one here to the US - the one you had to order from the courthouse of the county wherein you were born.

Take it out and look at the top of it. What it is called?

[britty 1]

irrespective of whether there is an issue or not, a bonafide birth certificate can always be "created" if necessary. If Obama can hide the origins of millions of dollars of campaign funds, associate with Bill Ayers, Father Pfleger, and Rev Wright, and dupe certain members of the general public with a "change" campaign which he then promptly forgot about when filling his posts with hacks from Clinton's disastrous administration, he is certainly capable of presenting any document you care to request.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

irrespective of whether there is an issue or not, a bonafide birth certificate can always be "created" if necessary. If Obama can hide the origins of millions of dollars of campaign funds, associate with Bill Ayers, Father Pfleger, and Rev Wright, and dupe certain members of the general public with a "change" campaign which he then promptly forgot about when filling his posts with hacks from Clinton's disastrous administration, he is certainly capable of presenting any document you care to request.

[Ling Ling 22]

irrespective of whether there is an issue or not, a bonafide birth certificate can always be "created" if necessary. If Obama can hide the origins of millions of dollars of campaign funds, associate with Bill Ayers, Father Pfleger, and Rev Wright, and dupe certain members of the general public with a "change" campaign which he then promptly forgot about when filling his posts with hacks from Clinton's disastrous administration, he is certainly capable of presenting any document you care to request.

And just WHAT do you have against my pal Bill?

Don't believe everything you hear in the news.

The primary purpose of the US News media, is NOT to inform.

Edited November 20, 2008 by Ling Ling

[rebeccajo 14]

irrespective of whether there is an issue or not, a bonafide birth certificate can always be "created" if necessary. If Obama can hide the origins of millions of dollars of campaign funds, associate with Bill Ayers, Father Pfleger, and Rev Wright, and dupe certain members of the general public with a "change" campaign which he then promptly forgot about when filling his posts with hacks from Clinton's disastrous administration, he is certainly capable of presenting any document you care to request.

OMG.

Obama's father was from a foreign country.

So that means his birth and the country he is a citizen of must certainly be questionable.

What an odd perspective for a website like VisaJourney.

[웃 910]

irrespective of whether there is an issue or not, a bonafide birth certificate can always be "created" if necessary. If Obama can hide the origins of millions of dollars of campaign funds, associate with Bill Ayers, Father Pfleger, and Rev Wright, and dupe certain members of the general public with a "change" campaign which he then promptly forgot about when filling his posts with hacks from Clinton's disastrous administration, he is certainly capable of presenting any document you care to request.

And just WHAT do you have against my pal Bill?

Don't believe everything you hear in the news.

The primary purpose of the US News media, is NOT to inform.

Which Bill? Bill the unrepentant former domestic terrorist or Billy BJ Clinton?

Edited November 20, 2008 by Confucian

[Peikko 1,575]

irrespective of whether there is an issue or not, a bonafide birth certificate can always be "created" if necessary. If Obama can hide the origins of millions of dollars of campaign funds, associate with Bill Ayers, Father Pfleger, and Rev Wright, and dupe certain members of the general public with a "change" campaign which he then promptly forgot about when filling his posts with hacks from Clinton's disastrous administration, he is certainly capable of presenting any document you care to request.

Oh, the intricate web of lies that is weaved. It's wonderful that someone knows 'the truth'.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

irrespective of whether there is an issue or not, a bonafide birth certificate can always be "created" if necessary. If Obama can hide the origins of millions of dollars of campaign funds, associate with Bill Ayers, Father Pfleger, and Rev Wright, and dupe certain members of the general public with a "change" campaign which he then promptly forgot about when filling his posts with hacks from Clinton's disastrous administration, he is certainly capable of presenting any document you care to request.

Stringing together dubious rumours to create conspiracy doesn't sound terribly plausible I must say.

[britty 1]

irrespective of whether there is an issue or not, a bonafide birth certificate can always be "created" if necessary. If Obama can hide the origins of millions of dollars of campaign funds, associate with Bill Ayers, Father Pfleger, and Rev Wright, and dupe certain members of the general public with a "change" campaign which he then promptly forgot about when filling his posts with hacks from Clinton's disastrous administration, he is certainly capable of presenting any document you care to request.

And just WHAT do you have against my pal Bill?

Don't believe everything you hear in the news.

The primary purpose of the US News media, is NOT to inform.

Well firstly, for someone who built a large part of his career based on his support of womens issues and received so much support in return from NOW, he sexually harassed and/or abused women serially throughout his governorship and presidency. He then turned to the American public and told them, in order to escape a perjury charge, it was all about sex. We all know that is not true because he lost his law license over the perjury charge. That kind of irks me somewhat. Now it seems that Obama feels that Clinton's decisions were sound ones based on his administrative appointments. There's a genius for you.