Former Obama opponent now suing to prove President-elect's citizenship

[Marilyn. 340]

I didn't think you ever got your original Birth certificate.. at least in Canada you don't.. you get a certified copy of the original...

[Cassie 8]

If you have the time, money and inclination, may I suggest something?

Ask for a reprint. I bet it'll look nothing like what you have now. But it should have the same content.

That's exactly my point. An original BC printed when the birth took place will probably not look the same as a certified copy made now.

I didn't think you ever got your original Birth certificate.. at least in Canada you don't.. you get a certified copy of the original...

usually in that little card form that looks nothing like the certified copy I got for my K-1 visa process.

Edited November 20, 2008 by Cassie

[William33 110]

Note the wording at the bottom of the Obama document, revision 11/01 (revision).

"This copy serves as a prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding" blah, blah, etc...

In other words, the original or facsimile thereof is not available. Why do you suppose that is?

In some states, they photo copy the original, which is kept on file.

Edited November 20, 2008 by William33

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

I didn't think you ever got your original Birth certificate.. at least in Canada you don't.. you get a certified copy of the original...

Yeah I think charles just means the original copy rec'd shortly after birth.

Not all parents know how to hold on to stuff like that.

[Ban Hammer 13,347]

ah darn, i confused marilyn. i must type slower.

you didn't confuse me... you just aren't making sense...

no, i'm typing at 14400 baud for a 300 baud reader.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Note the wording at the bottom of the Obama document, revision 11/01 (revision).

"This copy serves as a prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding" blah, blah, etc...

In other words, the original or facsimile thereof is not available. Why do you suppose that is?

The government keeps the original. All you get is a certified copy. The actual format of the certified copy changes over time in most jurisdictions.

[IAMX 3,055]

Note the wording at the bottom of the Obama document, revision 11/01 (revision).

"This copy serves as a prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding" blah, blah, etc...

In other words, the original or facsimile thereof is not available. Why do you suppose that is?

The government keeps the original. All you get is a certified copy. The actual format of the certified copy changes over time in most jurisdictions.

Why do you suppose that is?

[Ban Hammer 13,347]

Unless I'm mistaken, the backwards date (in that large empty space near the bottom right) on Obama's "copy" shown to the public says 2007.

Hell, for one reason or another, the most recent copy of my own birth certificate is from 1999.

yes, i can see that. what do you suppose that indicates?

I didn't think you ever got your original Birth certificate.. at least in Canada you don't.. you get a certified copy of the original...

well dorothy, we're not in kansas canada anymore.

[William33 110]

Note the wording at the bottom of the Obama document, revision 11/01 (revision).

"This copy serves as a prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding" blah, blah, etc...

In other words, the original or facsimile thereof is not available. Why do you suppose that is?

The government keeps the original. All you get is a certified copy. The actual format of the certified copy changes over time in most jurisdictions.

Why do you suppose that is?

Just pointing to the facts mate. I love to debate, even if I don't really care about the topic. In this case, I don't really care.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Unless I'm mistaken, the backwards date (in that large empty space near the bottom right) on Obama's "copy" shown to the public says 2007.

Hell, for one reason or another, the most recent copy of my own birth certificate is from 1999.

yes, i can see that. what do you suppose that indicates?

That it's a reprint. So what?

That's what you're supposed to do if you can't find your BC. You ask vital records for another one (and pay a fee).

They don't make copies of documents that don't exist.

[IAMX 3,055]

Just pointing to the facts mate. I love to debate, even if I don't really care about the topic. In this case, I don't really care.

Kay. Debate away.

yes, i can see that. what do you suppose that indicates?

That it's a recent copy? You tell me what it indicates. I have a copy of my birth certificate that's only 9 years old.

I don't see the DHS complaining.

Edited November 20, 2008 by SRVT

[William33 110]

Unless I'm mistaken, the backwards date (in that large empty space near the bottom right) on Obama's "copy" shown to the public says 2007.

Hell, for one reason or another, the most recent copy of my own birth certificate is from 1999.

yes, i can see that. what do you suppose that indicates?

That it's a reprint. So what?

That's what you're supposed to do if you can't find your BC. You ask vital records for another one (and pay a fee).

They don't make copies of documents that don't exist.

Exactly!!!!!

[Marilyn. 340]

Unless I'm mistaken, the backwards date (in that large empty space near the bottom right) on Obama's "copy" shown to the public says 2007.

Hell, for one reason or another, the most recent copy of my own birth certificate is from 1999.

yes, i can see that. what do you suppose that indicates?

I didn't think you ever got your original Birth certificate.. at least in Canada you don't.. you get a certified copy of the original...

well dorothy, we're not in kansas canada anymore.

even Aj said the government keeps the originals....

[Ban Hammer 13,347]

Note the wording at the bottom of the Obama document, revision 11/01 (revision).

"This copy serves as a prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding" blah, blah, etc...

In other words, the original or facsimile thereof is not available. Why do you suppose that is?

The government keeps the original. All you get is a certified copy. The actual format of the certified copy changes over time in most jurisdictions.

so why not provide a copy of the original from microfiche?

[IAMX 3,055]

Note the wording at the bottom of the Obama document, revision 11/01 (revision).

"This copy serves as a prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding" blah, blah, etc...

In other words, the original or facsimile thereof is not available. Why do you suppose that is?

The government keeps the original. All you get is a certified copy. The actual format of the certified copy changes over time in most jurisdictions.

so why not provide a copy of the original from microfiche?

Ask that to the issuing government.

Wow has this ever gone nowhere.