Why VSC is so slow?

[Cassie 8]

Curious how would feel if your 4 year strong marriage happened before the visa process, and people that weren't even married were approved before you?

Let's see, I am a researcher by trade, so I would have gotten on the internet and found out all I can, eventually stumble across VJ, find out about the DCF option, went for that, and sat back and waited until the interview, while working on tying up loose ends and getting ready to move.

Would I have been frustrated about waiting? Sure, to a point -- when it comes to government paperwork like this I tend to expect the absolute worst and then hope to be pleasantly surprised, and usually I am. I have had various family members deal with immigration issues in both Canada and the US and know that the process can be long and drawn out. However, knowing myself, I would do research into why it was taking so long and why fiance visas were quicker and why processing centres are slower/faster -- VJ is invaluable in that regard. Would I be pissed off that fiances got in quicker? I honestly doubt it. I probably would wish that it was different, but I wouldn't be ticked off so much that I would question the validity of their relationships.

I'm not questioning the validity of anyone's relationship. I got married because I loved my wife. I didn't take immigration in to account when deciding to marry her. Personally, I think it's sad that people have to decide on when and where to get married based on some government policies. I wish I would have been that clinical about it.

It's hard for me to take that at face value when you wrote:

Get ready. Here come the K-1s to tell you they are just as important as an already married couple. Marriage is just a piece of paper after all.

And you are not the first to utter sentiments in that vein, FWIW, nor will you be the last. This cyclical discussion you and I are having will live on as long as there are fiance visas and spousal visas and forums to talk about them in!

When my husband and I began talking seriously about where our relationship was going, we had no clue that the fiance visa existed, all we knew was that we wanted to be married and be together somewhere. We knew that we would have to make a decision on which country, because no one has been smart enough yet to figure out a way to live in two places at once, which is too bad! By the time we were officially engaged, we had thought it through and we knew that it was best for us at this time to live in the United States. Once we figured that out, we started looking into the immigration process. We found out about the fiance visa, and my husband, being the infinitely logical, impatient and yet romantic person that he is, said "I can't stand the thought of getting married and then being separated from you for a year or even more, please let's do the fiance visa".

I completely agree with you, I HATE the fact that the rules and regulations of USCIS had a huge factor in where and when I got married. Hate it. I got married in the United States because I love my husband dearly, and my wedding, although not in the place or the time that I had imagined it to be, turned out fantastic, and my marriage has been even better than fantastic. That's all it's been about for me. USCIS is what it is. I can choose to live my life in daily frustration because of how broken the system is, but I refuse to let something like that have continuous control of my emotions. It's not worth it, I'd rather focus on something more productive...but that's just me.

[daboyz 36]

Curious how would feel if your 4 year strong marriage happened before the visa process, and people that weren't even married were approved before you?

Let's see, I am a researcher by trade, so I would have gotten on the internet and found out all I can, eventually stumble across VJ, find out about the DCF option, went for that, and sat back and waited until the interview, while working on tying up loose ends and getting ready to move.

Would I have been frustrated about waiting? Sure, to a point -- when it comes to government paperwork like this I tend to expect the absolute worst and then hope to be pleasantly surprised, and usually I am. I have had various family members deal with immigration issues in both Canada and the US and know that the process can be long and drawn out. However, knowing myself, I would do research into why it was taking so long and why fiance visas were quicker and why processing centres are slower/faster -- VJ is invaluable in that regard. Would I be pissed off that fiances got in quicker? I honestly doubt it. I probably would wish that it was different, but I wouldn't be ticked off so much that I would question the validity of their relationships.

I'm not questioning the validity of anyone's relationship. I got married because I loved my wife. I didn't take immigration in to account when deciding to marry her. Personally, I think it's sad that people have to decide on when and where to get married based on some government policies. I wish I would have been that clinical about it.

It's hard for me to take that at face value when you wrote:

Get ready. Here come the K-1s to tell you they are just as important as an already married couple. Marriage is just a piece of paper after all.

And you are not the first to utter sentiments in that vein, FWIW, nor will you be the last. This cyclical discussion you and I are having will live on as long as there are fiance visas and spousal visas and forums to talk about them in!

When my husband and I began talking seriously about where our relationship was going, we had no clue that the fiance visa existed, all we knew was that we wanted to be married and be together somewhere. We knew that we would have to make a decision on which country, because no one has been smart enough yet to figure out a way to live in two places at once, which is too bad! By the time we were officially engaged, we had thought it through and we knew that it was best for us at this time to live in the United States. Once we figured that out, we started looking into the immigration process. We found out about the fiance visa, and my husband, being the infinitely logical, impatient and yet romantic person that he is, said "I can't stand the thought of getting married and then being separated from you for a year or even more, please let's do the fiance visa".

I completely agree with you, I HATE the fact that the rules and regulations of USCIS had a huge factor in where and when I got married. Hate it. I got married in the United States because I love my husband dearly, and my wedding, although not in the place or the time that I had imagined it to be, turned out fantastic, and my marriage has been even better than fantastic. That's all it's been about for me. USCIS is what it is. I can choose to live my life in daily frustration because of how broken the system is, but I refuse to let something like that have continuous control of my emotions. It's not worth it, I'd rather focus on something more productive...but that's just me.

Get ready. Here come the K-1s to tell you they are just as important as an already married couple. Marriage is just a piece of paper after all.

You seem to have been around here for awhile so I'm sure you have seen that exact message before. All I meant by that, was that they should be treated equally, which they are not. I lived in Thailand for 3 years, and didn't plan on coming back to this country at all to be honest. It's just a little hard for me to swallow that people that make one visit to (insert country here), sign an intent to marry, file the paperwork, get approved months before people that have had an existing relationship and marriage for years. You are right that this govt. agency is terrible in all this. People that live in a certain state get approved in 30 days, while people that live in another state wait 7 months or more. I think it's great that things worked out for you. I'm about done with this process now, but the whole K-1 vs. K-3, and the VSC vs. CSC thing IMHO is really unfair. (unless your are currently K-1, or at CSC) This process should be somewhat equal no matter the petition filed for, or the service center.

[Cassie 8]

I'd be interested to find out when exactly fiance visas came into play, and why. Methinks this will be my next research project.

I hear you, I really do. There is no doubt that this system needs some serious overhauling on many different fronts. I wish that we as a collective would channel our frustration into action towards change, as opposed to slagging each other based on visa type, or service centre filed at, and such. Thank you for a calm discussion on this topic, and my best wishes to you and your wife.

[daboyz 36]

I'd be interested to find out when exactly fiance visas came into play, and why. Methinks this will be my next research project.

I hear you, I really do. There is no doubt that this system needs some serious overhauling on many different fronts. I wish that we as a collective would channel our frustration into action towards change, as opposed to slagging each other based on visa type, or service centre filed at, and such. Thank you for a calm discussion on this topic, and my best wishes to you and your wife.

Yeah I really have no problem with K-1 visas. I think that all visas, K-1, K-3, IR-1/CR-1 should all be processed in the order the were received, and the service center shouldn't have anything to do with it. I understand for K-1, there is no I-130, so it seems they would be approved maybe 30 days faster. That makes sense to me, because of all the AOS, AP, EAD and all that goes along with that choice. I started out going for the K-3, which I probably would've had by now. But after having this much fun with USCIS, I decided to wait the extra 2 months so I don't have to deal with USCIS for 10 more years, and go for the IR-1. 10 year green card and I am done. Thanks for having an intelligent debate about this, and not dragging it into the mud, which seems to happen alot here.

vive quebec libre!

Couldn't resist.... I lived in Quebec for a couple years.

[PlatyPius 5]

Oh! Is it this time of year again already? Who's winning this year? Have they played the "married vs. not yet married" card yet? Is there righteous indignation?

I swear you don't need a calendar when you have VJ....

Next will be the plans to organize mass email campaigns, picket whichever service center is "slow", write to your congressman who never even sees your request - only an intern, and then the approvals will come in as they always do and everyone will lose interest in "fixing" the system because they've been approved and don't give a shite anymore.

[Cassie 8]

Oh! Is it this time of year again already? Who's winning this year? Have they played the "married vs. not yet married" card yet? Is there righteous indignation?

I swear you don't need a calendar when you have VJ....

Next will be the plans to organize mass email campaigns, picket whichever service center is "slow", write to your congressman who never even sees your request - only an intern, and then the approvals will come in as they always do and everyone will lose interest in "fixing" the system because they've been approved and don't give a shite anymore.

So true Platy, so true....

the latest writing campaign is already started, might as well break in the President-Elect!

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...=163074&hl=

[Cassie 8]

. But after having this much fun with USCIS, I decided to wait the extra 2 months so I don't have to deal with USCIS for 10 more years, and go for the IR-1.

:lol: sorry, couldn't resist

[jurod16 0]

Get ready. Here come the K-1s to tell you they are just as important as an already married couple. Marriage is just a piece of paper after all. Also, how they cant work, etc. when they get here. I'll say it again. It would be fine if they processed K-1s and K-3s/CR-1 in the same amount of time. But that is not the case. Get ready for the wrath.

;-)

Not trying to start trouble or anything but that piece of paper makes a difference. With that piece of paper, the military gives their members additional money for housing. Once our dependents are physically here, that piece of paper helps pay for our dependents health coverage also. We can't get the additional money for housing or health care benefits for our family just having a fiance(e). I agree we all love our spouses/children/fiance(e)s and would all love to be with them. I'm sure this goes along on the civilian side of the world also. Just a thought.

jurod16