Serious Doubts

[nunyab 0]

staashi hit the nail on the head i think with that one..... I talked to my husband at great lengths about hijab, his sisters don't wear them but mother and aunts do. So I was intrigeued to hear his ideas on everything. So one day we both just had a great conversation for hours with the Qu'ran and paper to ask the Imaam in morocco. It finally came down to what we believed was important to us. That had to be one of the most interesting conversations we've had. and Yes it was prior to marriage

good luck

[PlatyPius 5]

You just proved my point Leyla.

I'm a Muslim and I don't wear hijab. I acknowledge that I am disobeying Allah by not wearing the hijab. I'm acknowledging that I am not a good Muslimah because I don't wear the hijab.

Really simple.

But I don't go around telling people that it's not manditory and that because it's not in the Quran then it's not fard. I don't tell people to reject taking rulings from Hadith because they come from a man and not God. I don't change what has been the Islamic ruling for over 1400 years. I don't change the religion. I acknowledge that I am wrong to do what I do. Period.

I'm not judging you. You may very well go to heaven before me and a million other women wearing hijab. I'm just asking you that if you choose to be a part of this religion, then state your feelings, but don't say something is law or not.

If you choose to remain a Muslimah and choose to continue studying Islam and learning about it...one day, when you become more and more educated in Islam, you will look back on this topic. You will remember me. And you will know and understand exactly why I posted the things I did.

...............Cow.

fixx0red

####### is this sh!t on mena day for you?

No, just her. Her know-it-all attitude really got to me yesterday. I couldn't help but feel sorry for the OP after Queen Narina flounced through, farting out her pearls of wisdom.

[RAKASA 0]

No, just her. Her know-it-all attitude really got to me yesterday. I couldn't help but feel sorry for the OP after Queen Narina flounced through, farting out her pearls of wisdom.

[Ban Hammer 13,283]

I'm sorry Leyla that you post got hijacked in a million different directions...but I guess that's to be expected from us Muslims...you know, we hijack everything LOOOOOL

that's really offensive, charles.

interesting that you take offense to a pic with the word parody on it but you say zip about the comment about muslims hijacking everything.

[Sinergy 3]

No, just her. Her know-it-all attitude really got to me yesterday. I couldn't help but feel sorry for the OP after Queen Narina flounced through, farting out her pearls of wisdom.

:lol:

[doodlebugg 10]

I'm sorry Leyla that you post got hijacked in a million different directions...but I guess that's to be expected from us Muslims...you know, we hijack everything LOOOOOL

that's really offensive, charles.

interesting that you take offense to a pic with the word parody on it but you say zip about the comment about muslims hijacking everything.

Oh wow I didn't notice that! I thought she meant mena peeps hijack the threads a lot, which we do. Yes that is very offensive too. Guess I'm in a crappy mood today.

[Ihavequestions 419]

I'm sorry Virtualwife, I don't know you and won't judge you. I have no idea about your education and where you were educated or what you were educated in. All I know is that I follow our known scholars in Islam and not modern people with degrees. Being a scholar would first mean being native in the Arabic language and being educated in linguistics. Then it would take being educated under another scholar from toddlerhood until old age, before a scholar would be learned in just ONE islamic science. Like I said, I have no idea what you studied and how far you've come, but I take my fatwas and rulings from scholars only. I do follow the cookie cutter rulings, because I believe things outside of the cookie cutter lead to bid3a and this is how the deen becomes polluted with things that are not true.

Since when is a Ph.D. not a scholar?

Narina, I'm not one to come out and smack someone upside their head with a keyboard, but I truly feel the need right about now.

HOW DARE YOU JUDGE ANYBODY?

[Ban Hammer 13,283]

I'm sorry Leyla that you post got hijacked in a million different directions...but I guess that's to be expected from us Muslims...you know, we hijack everything LOOOOOL

that's really offensive, charles.

interesting that you take offense to a pic with the word parody on it but you say zip about the comment about muslims hijacking everything.

Oh wow I didn't notice that! I thought she meant mena peeps hijack the threads a lot, which we do. Yes that is very offensive too. Guess I'm in a crappy mood today.

so now that you understand the context of it, maybe read before taking me under fire next time?

[PlatyPius 5]

I'm sorry Virtualwife, I don't know you and won't judge you. I have no idea about your education and where you were educated or what you were educated in. All I know is that I follow our known scholars in Islam and not modern people with degrees. Being a scholar would first mean being native in the Arabic language and being educated in linguistics. Then it would take being educated under another scholar from toddlerhood until old age, before a scholar would be learned in just ONE islamic science. Like I said, I have no idea what you studied and how far you've come, but I take my fatwas and rulings from scholars only. I do follow the cookie cutter rulings, because I believe things outside of the cookie cutter lead to bid3a and this is how the deen becomes polluted with things that are not true.

Since when is a Ph.D. not a scholar?

Narina, I'm not one to come out and smack someone upside their head with a keyboard, but I truly feel the need right about now.

HOW DARE YOU JUDGE ANYBODY?

How dare she?

She's Queen Narina. She knows ALL about Islam, and apparently has a golden cootchie men will pay $10,000 and a "ton" of gold for. Sounds more like someone buying a green card to me.

I'm sorry Leyla that you post got hijacked in a million different directions...but I guess that's to be expected from us Muslims...you know, we hijack everything LOOOOOL

that's really offensive, charles.

interesting that you take offense to a pic with the word parody on it but you say zip about the comment about muslims hijacking everything.

Oh wow I didn't notice that! I thought she meant mena peeps hijack the threads a lot, which we do. Yes that is very offensive too. Guess I'm in a crappy mood today.

I found them both pretty offensive, but she DID leave Charles an opening to post it, so I can't fault him. I probably would have posted something about it myself.

[sereia 0]

golden cootchie! LOL

[HLM 1]

wow!!! been awhile since we had some fire in here!!! BRING IT ON PPL C'MON U KNOW U WANNA THROW SOMETHING IN THERE

[Leyla 0]

I like how people take a topic and turn it into a breeding ground for being mean to people.

......

[Y's_habibitk 2]

happens all the time here...its a very welcoming place at times lol

[UmmSqueakster 54]

Large dowries (mahr) given to women are often the norm in MENA countries. It's one of the reason there's such a large population of 20 and 30 something men who aren't married over there (and why they're looking for american women online) - they can't afford the cost of buying an apartment, furnishing it and giving the requisit $$/gold to their future brides.

American brides of MENA men usually don't get these, because the man either neglects to tell her about this obligation of his, or because she turns it down.

Mahr - concepts and rulings

Stifled, Egypt's Young Turn to Islamic Fervor

But marriage is so expensive now, the system is collapsing in many communities. Diane Singerman, a professor at American University, said that a 1999 survey found that marriage in Egypt cost about $6,000, 11 times annual household expenditures per capita. Five years later, a study found the price had jumped 25 percent more. In other words, a groom and his father in the poorest segment of society had to save their total income for eight years to afford a wedding, she reported.The result is delayed marriages across the region. A generation ago, 63 percent of Middle Eastern men in their mid- to late 20s were married, according to recent study by the Wolfensohn Center for Development at the Brookings Institution and the Dubai School of Government. That figure has dropped to nearly 50 percent across the region, among the lowest rates of marriage in the developing world, the report said. In Iran, for example, 38 percent of the 25- to 29-year-old men are not married, one of the largest pools of unattached males in Iranian history. In Egypt, the average age at which men now marry is 31.

[Ban Hammer 13,283]

golden cootchie! LOL

the major question now is - who's gonna change their vj name to that?