Sarah Palin blamed by the US Secret Service for provoking death threats against Barack Obama

[S and S 12]

Fellow libruls, relax. Conservatives are going to get the shaft rammed up their collective azzholes so hard and so deep over the next two years they'll wish they had nominated someone better than McCain and Palin.

I wasn't happy the moment McCain was nominated and thought there were far better choices for the republicans than that. Not sure what people were smoking when they voted for him to be the candidate. Not much I could do about it though. I was really hoping for Huckaby. As for Palin, I had no control over that one.

[Ling Ling 22]

Hmmmm, tough questions consistently avoided.

[Dan J 277]

Fellow libruls, relax. Conservatives are going to get the shaft rammed up their collective azzholes so hard and so deep over the next two years they'll wish they had nominated someone better than McCain and Palin.

I wasn't happy the moment McCain was nominated and thought there were far better choices for the republicans than that. Not sure what people were smoking when they voted for him to be the candidate. Not much I could do about it though. I was really hoping for Huckaby. As for Palin, I had no control over that one.

Like it or not. McCain was a very good choice. His policies pre-2008, were where the party needs to go. However, he was not strong enough to lead the party behind him. Instead he was lead by the party and gave up the political center. Elections are not won on the Left or Right, but by controling the center.

[PlatyPius 5]

Fellow libruls, relax. Conservatives are going to get the shaft rammed up their collective azzholes so hard and so deep over the next two years they'll wish they had nominated someone better than McCain and Palin.

I wasn't happy the moment McCain was nominated and thought there were far better choices for the republicans than that. Not sure what people were smoking when they voted for him to be the candidate. Not much I could do about it though. I was really hoping for Huckaby. As for Palin, I had no control over that one.

Like it or not. McCain was a very good choice. His policies pre-2008, were where the party needs to go. However, he was not strong enough to lead the party behind him. Instead he was lead by the party and gave up the political center. Elections are not won on the Left or Right, but by controling the center.

I agree. McCain himself wasn't a bad choice. Palin was.

[Niels Bohr 72]

Palin, and Joe the Plumber help degrading McCain's campaign.

[NickD 203]

Just another dislikeable facet of our society and the main topic of this thread, blame somebody else for the problems you have created. How does it feel to carry on with posts with the mentality of a two year old, and besides protecting your ego, are these posts serving any useful purpose?

No question that Palin is an extrovert and received a good opportunity to make a big step in her career, but she was selected for that job by the powers to be in the republican party, now she is taking the blame for it. Why aren't the ones that selected her taking the blame? Can never be their fault, right?

Finally, least the slim majority of Americans are no longer buying smear campaigns, can only hope is starts to put an end to these despicable tactics.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Fellow libruls, relax. Conservatives are going to get the shaft rammed up their collective azzholes so hard and so deep over the next two years they'll wish they had nominated someone better than McCain and Palin.

I wasn't happy the moment McCain was nominated and thought there were far better choices for the republicans than that. Not sure what people were smoking when they voted for him to be the candidate. Not much I could do about it though. I was really hoping for Huckaby. As for Palin, I had no control over that one.

Like it or not. McCain was a very good choice. His policies pre-2008, were where the party needs to go. However, he was not strong enough to lead the party behind him. Instead he was lead by the party and gave up the political center. Elections are not won on the Left or Right, but by controling the center.

I agree. McCain himself wasn't a bad choice. Palin was.

Nah I don't agree there. I think McCain went wrong when flushed his principles down the toilet in order to rally the conservative base and his campaign seemed fixated on the conservatives rather than trying to appeal to the swing voters he actaully needed to win.

Had he actually stood on his principles and not tried to be all things to all people he might have done better. As it was the messages in his campaign were mixed and often contradictory - claiming on the one hand to be a Maverick Reformer and in the last days of the campaign "a safe pair of hands".

The Sarah Palin thing was just another misstep of many (and again this didn't do much for anyone outside the conservative base) - hence she's now being blamed for the loss when the only thing she can be rightly blamed for is accepting a nomination she was out of her depth for.

[NavarreMan 10]

As much as I dislike Palin, sometimes people take things the wrong way irregardless of the intention of the message. Palin shouldn't be the responsible one. It only take one incident to initiate the judgement of "this is wrong." When someone is firing straight at you, someone has to take the bullet.

Obama is such an inspirational character. I am deeply saddened that alot of people don't sees him that way. Through adversity, he accelerated to the ranks of Senate. And, even proved that he can achieve an excellent education. It's very easy to ignore the difficulties of going into Law School, especially Harvard Law School when you or those who haven't even stepped on that path. I know that path well. Not everyone could get into Law School.

His education is just a part of his inspiration towards my life, but, his path that got him to where he is at is the most moving to truly grasp his adversities.

I'm saddened that lots of people see BO as inspirational. I also attended elite schools and the Ivy League, as have many others I know. If you have done it, you know he's not all that. I would have more respect for him if the media hadn't done so many unethical things to help get him elected, and I would trust him more if he actually said something with all that talk. I'm still waiting for him to do something that helps me to understand what people see in him.

I never thought of it that way... If you are an example of what comes out of Ivy League schools then I certainly don't want Obama for president. Elite schools - what a phukwad!

You will never understand what we see in him, your head is way too far up your backside for you to get a good look at the real world.

[HAL 9000 96]

I remember having said it wasn't the smartest move back when she got the nod for the slot and having some folks question my judgment on it. From what people are saying out there in the real world, I think I can chalk one up for my circuits.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

As much as I dislike Palin, sometimes people take things the wrong way irregardless of the intention of the message. Palin shouldn't be the responsible one. It only take one incident to initiate the judgement of "this is wrong." When someone is firing straight at you, someone has to take the bullet.

Obama is such an inspirational character. I am deeply saddened that alot of people don't sees him that way. Through adversity, he accelerated to the ranks of Senate. And, even proved that he can achieve an excellent education. It's very easy to ignore the difficulties of going into Law School, especially Harvard Law School when you or those who haven't even stepped on that path. I know that path well. Not everyone could get into Law School.

His education is just a part of his inspiration towards my life, but, his path that got him to where he is at is the most moving to truly grasp his adversities.

I'm saddened that lots of people see BO as inspirational. I also attended elite schools and the Ivy League, as have many others I know. If you have done it, you know he's not all that. I would have more respect for him if the media hadn't done so many unethical things to help get him elected, and I would trust him more if he actually said something with all that talk. I'm still waiting for him to do something that helps me to understand what people see in him.

I never thought of it that way... If you are an example of what comes out of Ivy League schools then I certainly don't want Obama for president. Elite schools - what a phukwad!

You will never understand what we see in him, your head is way too far up your backside for you to get a good look at the real world.

Perhaps someone can explain to me what people saw in George W. Bush that was sufficient to elect him to the White House in 2000 and 2004.

As it is - 8 years later people around the world are still scratching their heads over that one.

"Is our children learning"

[NavarreMan 10]

As much as I dislike Palin, sometimes people take things the wrong way irregardless of the intention of the message. Palin shouldn't be the responsible one. It only take one incident to initiate the judgement of "this is wrong." When someone is firing straight at you, someone has to take the bullet.

Obama is such an inspirational character. I am deeply saddened that alot of people don't sees him that way. Through adversity, he accelerated to the ranks of Senate. And, even proved that he can achieve an excellent education. It's very easy to ignore the difficulties of going into Law School, especially Harvard Law School when you or those who haven't even stepped on that path. I know that path well. Not everyone could get into Law School.

His education is just a part of his inspiration towards my life, but, his path that got him to where he is at is the most moving to truly grasp his adversities.

I'm saddened that lots of people see BO as inspirational. I also attended elite schools and the Ivy League, as have many others I know. If you have done it, you know he's not all that. I would have more respect for him if the media hadn't done so many unethical things to help get him elected, and I would trust him more if he actually said something with all that talk. I'm still waiting for him to do something that helps me to understand what people see in him.

I never thought of it that way... If you are an example of what comes out of Ivy League schools then I certainly don't want Obama for president. Elite schools - what a phukwad!

You will never understand what we see in him, your head is way too far up your backside for you to get a good look at the real world.

Perhaps someone can explain to me what people saw in George W. Bush that was sufficient to elect him to the White House in 2000 and 2004.

As it is - 8 years later people around the world are still scratching their heads over that one.

"Is our children learning"

Those that insist that George II was good for the country cannot, by their very nature, accept that he has any faults. They still proudly display their bumper stickers. Therefore there is no way to rationally explain what they saw in him. Like asking a crazy person why they are crazy. All you'll get is jibberish.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

As much as I dislike Palin, sometimes people take things the wrong way irregardless of the intention of the message. Palin shouldn't be the responsible one. It only take one incident to initiate the judgement of "this is wrong." When someone is firing straight at you, someone has to take the bullet.

Obama is such an inspirational character. I am deeply saddened that alot of people don't sees him that way. Through adversity, he accelerated to the ranks of Senate. And, even proved that he can achieve an excellent education. It's very easy to ignore the difficulties of going into Law School, especially Harvard Law School when you or those who haven't even stepped on that path. I know that path well. Not everyone could get into Law School.

His education is just a part of his inspiration towards my life, but, his path that got him to where he is at is the most moving to truly grasp his adversities.

I'm saddened that lots of people see BO as inspirational. I also attended elite schools and the Ivy League, as have many others I know. If you have done it, you know he's not all that. I would have more respect for him if the media hadn't done so many unethical things to help get him elected, and I would trust him more if he actually said something with all that talk. I'm still waiting for him to do something that helps me to understand what people see in him.

I never thought of it that way... If you are an example of what comes out of Ivy League schools then I certainly don't want Obama for president. Elite schools - what a phukwad!

You will never understand what we see in him, your head is way too far up your backside for you to get a good look at the real world.

Perhaps someone can explain to me what people saw in George W. Bush that was sufficient to elect him to the White House in 2000 and 2004.

As it is - 8 years later people around the world are still scratching their heads over that one.

"Is our children learning"

Those that insist that George II was good for the country cannot, by their very nature, accept that he has any faults. They still proudly display their bumper stickers. Therefore there is no way to rationally explain what they saw in him. Like asking a crazy person why they are crazy. All you'll get is jibberish.

Well there are *some* people who still support GWB, though they're in a very small minority these days. But plenty it seems voted for him before they lost faith - I'm just not sure I understand why. All this talk of the media manipulating people into voting for Obama in 2008, ironic perhaps when it seems clear that GWB's simply had better marketers working for him - given that whenever he's spoken in public he's come across like Fred Flintstones idiotic younger brother. Obama to his credit at least sounds credible when he speaks.

As I recall people were happy with Clinton - and only elected the Republicans back into office in 2000 because of the high profile sex scandals at the end of his administration.

[NickD 203]

Heard the reason why GWB was elected, people would rather drink a beer with him rather than Gore or Kerry. Those two weren't exactly good choices either and I rather drink a beer with a nice looking woman. But GWB did lie to the public, and doubt if too many people are left that trust him. Feel integrity in the office is far more important, but Carter had that, that office should also have brains.

Did hear a republican on the radio this morning, stated his name too quick for my ears. He said their party has to reform, no more dishing out raw meat, never heard BS being described as raw meat before, but sure that is what he meant. The party has to move closer to the center, and God has to be removed from their party platform. Ha, wonder what God did wrong and which god are they talking about? But he did clarify that statement by saying, Obama won because he got young voters out, voters under 30 are considered to be young, and the young don't believe in God. Stated that 75-80% of the young voters voted for Obama.

Anyway, was refreshing to hear a republican state publicly that they screwed up, the most honest thing I have heard in a long long time.

Often wondered why one candidate doesn't take the other to court for slander. Ironically, WI has a supreme court judge that was recently elected and may get kicked off the bench for using slander against his opponent. But they are leaving that to the other judges.

[Dan J 277]

Heard the reason why GWB was elected, people would rather drink a beer with him rather than Gore or Kerry. Those two weren't exactly good choices either and I rather drink a beer with a nice looking woman. But GWB did lie to the public, and doubt if too many people are left that trust him. Feel integrity in the office is far more important, but Carter had that, that office should also have brains.

Did hear a republican on the radio this morning, stated his name too quick for my ears. He said their party has to reform, no more dishing out raw meat, never heard BS being described as raw meat before, but sure that is what he meant. The party has to move closer to the center, and God has to be removed from their party platform. Ha, wonder what God did wrong and which god are they talking about? But he did clarify that statement by saying, Obama won because he got young voters out, voters under 30 are considered to be young, and the young don't believe in God. Stated that 75-80% of the young voters voted for Obama.

Anyway, was refreshing to hear a republican state publicly that they screwed up, the most honest thing I have heard in a long long time.

Often wondered why one candidate doesn't take the other to court for slander. Ironically, WI has a supreme court judge that was recently elected and may get kicked off the bench for using slander against his opponent. But they are leaving that to the other judges.

For the Republican party, the most worrying issue, is that the young voters support the Democrat party by a large margin. People get older not younger, its the young who will define the politics of the future.

Yet most Republicans seem to sort of discount this block as irrelevant or otherwise.

[panamania79 2]

IVY LEAGUE students are above and beyond of showing off their status. They tend to work at the problem instead of producing it.

Or bragging endlessly about it.