my friends idea

[Labhrais 6]

Fraud. Not cool. Here's a hoping they get caught.

OK everyone, the OP is aware that NO-ONE will condone visa-fraud, and they will pass this on to their friend.

Yep, YuandDan have it right.

Lizbeth, good luck with convincing your friend to pursue the immigration in the best legal way for her long-term. It sure is a lot of paperwork, huh?

[Marmite Lovers! 0]

My friend is also engaged to a man we met while being Peace corps volunteers in lesotho. she has seen all the work i've done for getting the fiance visa stuff rolling and she doesn't dig the price or the effort. her plan is to have her fiance come to the states on a visitors visa, marry him and then apply for a change of status. Does this work? Or will they get turned down when they try to get legally married? And when he changes his status, does that mean she will still have to pay the $930 fee for the status change/green card application? Anyone know how this works?

Fraud.

Good luck.

[Boiler 45,501]

and the chances of a B visa in this case are what?

[maliciant 7]

I don't think people marrying on visitors visa's has much to do with the pain in the neck of the K-1 or K-3 visa route, but it definitely has an effect on which countries can participate in VWP.

[Sinergy 3]

Fraud. Not cool. Here's a hoping they get caught.

OK everyone, the OP is aware that NO-ONE will condone visa-fraud, and they will pass this on to their friend.

Are you a mod? No. Back off then.

YuAndDan may not be a mod, but knows a heck of alot more than alot of us do, and is one of the biggest helpers on VJ. A bit of respect would be nice.

I don't think people marrying on visitors visa's has much to do with the pain in the neck of the K-1 or K-3 visa route, but it definitely has an effect on which countries can participate in VWP.

Coming over on the visitors visa with the intent to marry to get around the long wait and fiancial costs for the K1 or K3 is fraud and can be bannable up to a lifetime

Edited November 8, 2008 by Sinergy

[*JG* 2]

I agree with everything said here, especially the respect for YouDan comment. Play nice.

Never ever advise someone to commit visa fraud. If it were me, I would tell her what was said, or better yet show her this thread. We have all learned a lot on here over the years.

The price is very high for what she is contemplating.

[Cham 3]

If your FRIEND loves this person, THEN she would do it the legal way instead of jeapordizing it. Being lazy is an excuse and will lead to a long time ban.

So as you can see IF she loves him she will do it the RIGHT way

[Beautiful_years 0]

Captial Fraud... advice them not to, the prices of aftermath effects ....too high and risky just to save a couple of $$$

Tell her to follow your lead... you are on the right track.

[DanielParul 50]

My friend is also engaged to a man we met while being Peace corps volunteers in lesotho. she has seen all the work i've done for getting the fiance visa stuff rolling and she doesn't dig the price or the effort. her plan is to have her fiance come to the states on a visitors visa, marry him and then apply for a change of status. Does this work? Or will they get turned down when they try to get legally married? And when he changes his status, does that mean she will still have to pay the $930 fee for the status change/green card application? Anyone know how this works?

If it was that easy, all of us here would gladly do it too. Besides, to enter the US on visitor visa with the intention of getting married and settling down here is fraud. Remember, they will have to prove everything they say and the price for lying can be too big.

[KimandRuss 0]

I agree... no need for attacks. It was a question not a direct intention to circumvent the laws. Dan is merely trying to keep the peace, as I think we all should as this is a community of support for each other above all else.

OP.. I think you get the point. Circumventing the immigration laws and coming in with the intention of staying can mean serious consequences for your friends.

good luck.

[lizbeth 0]

if nothing else you are making me feel a lot better for doing it the right way. thanks for the encouragement.

[maggieNomar 0]

Personally I hope if she goes through with this she is caught and fiance is banned for life. People like her make me sick. They are the reason the rest of us have to suffer long separations while things are verified. Glad the OP did things the legal way.

[Chica Yeyé 41]

Personally I hope if she goes through with this she is caught and fiance is banned for life. People like her make me sick. They are the reason the rest of us have to suffer long separations while things are verified. Glad the OP did things the legal way.

That makes two of us.