Girl, 13, stoned to death in Somalia

[rocks 494]

murder is murder. also, two wrongs do not make a right. so no, i do not agree. how does killing someone who killed someone make it better? ok they aren't alive anymore but someone killed them, which then makes them a murderer.

studies show that executed murderers never kill again.

so if we kill the executors too... we will be ok?

[S and S 12]

murder is murder. also, two wrongs do not make a right. so no, i do not agree. how does killing someone who killed someone make it better? ok they aren't alive anymore but someone killed them, which then makes them a murderer.

studies show that executed murderers never kill again.

say it aint so, who would have thought? lol

[Scott & Lai 12]

I recall reading a book written by a Somali born Dutch parliamentarian Ayaan Hirsi Ali.... The book I read was called "The Caged Virgin" and I would recommend it as a must read - this lady recounts her experience's and how she ran away from Somalia to avoid a forced marriage amongst other things. She explains many of the beliefs that are held - such as men stating they could not get SDT's due to the fact they are muslim men - It is a very enlightening book especially from view point of a woman being subjected to these beliefs. A very brave lady.

It has been discovered since that book was written that she lied about several points in her past, including the forced marriage. It caused her Danish citizenship to be revoked and they kicked her out of the country.

I can't believe you equate an unborn child to someone who is 13. Are you really that ignorant?

i agree, that is an unfair comparison. i wonder if she agrees with the death penalty...

I'm assuming you don't agree with it, but can you at least understand the argument that it is just for society to put a murderer to death, but it is unjust to kill an innocent, including one yet unborn?

murder is murder. also, two wrongs do not make a right. so no, i do not agree. how does killing someone who killed someone make it better? ok they aren't alive anymore but someone killed them, which then makes them a murderer.

I didn't ask if you agreed with it, I assumed you didn't. I asked if you could understand the logic of the argument. I don't agree that all killing (such as executing a murderer) is murder, but I can at least understand that point of view, even though I don't share it.

[S and S 12]

murder is murder. also, two wrongs do not make a right. so no, i do not agree. how does killing someone who killed someone make it better? ok they aren't alive anymore but someone killed them, which then makes them a murderer.

studies show that executed murderers never kill again.

so if we kill the executors too... we will be ok?

If someone killed your child or worse, what punishment would you prefer for them?

[Sofiyya 1,687]

I recall reading a book written by a Somali born Dutch parliamentarian Ayaan Hirsi Ali.... The book I read was called "The Caged Virgin" and I would recommend it as a must read - this lady recounts her experience's and how she ran away from Somalia to avoid a forced marriage amongst other things. She explains many of the beliefs that are held - such as men stating they could not get SDT's due to the fact they are muslim men - It is a very enlightening book especially from view point of a woman being subjected to these beliefs. A very brave lady.

It has been discovered since that book was written that she lied about several points in her past, including the forced marriage. It caused her Danish citizenship to be revoked and they kicked her out of the country.

I can't believe you equate an unborn child to someone who is 13. Are you really that ignorant?

i agree, that is an unfair comparison. i wonder if she agrees with the death penalty...

I'm assuming you don't agree with it, but can you at least understand the argument that it is just for society to put a murderer to death, but it is unjust to kill an innocent, including one yet unborn?

Killing the unborn in this country is a sacred cow. You are not even to mention in the same breath as murder because there is a code of silence about that.

To criticize the murder of a 13 year old, but deny the murders being condoned as abortions is sheer and utter hypocrisy.

[rocks 494]

murder is murder. also, two wrongs do not make a right. so no, i do not agree. how does killing someone who killed someone make it better? ok they aren't alive anymore but someone killed them, which then makes them a murderer.

studies show that executed murderers never kill again.

so if we kill the executors too... we will be ok?

If someone killed your child or worse, what punishment would you prefer for them?

that would be a terrible thing and i obviously would not wish that on anyone. no one deserves that to happen to them, no one.

i've known of people dying due to medical negligence, i don't see the doctors being put to death... how are they not a murderer?

i also do not understand how someone who is against abortion can be for the death penalty if their argument is because of terminating a life, because how is the life of a murderer any different? ugh.. it's so complicated, and late.

[S and S 12]

murder is murder. also, two wrongs do not make a right. so no, i do not agree. how does killing someone who killed someone make it better? ok they aren't alive anymore but someone killed them, which then makes them a murderer.

studies show that executed murderers never kill again.

so if we kill the executors too... we will be ok?

If someone killed your child or worse, what punishment would you prefer for them?

that would be a terrible thing and i obviously would not wish that on anyone. no one deserves that to happen to them, no one.

i've known of people dying due to medical negligence, i don't see the doctors being put to death... how are they not a murderer?

i also do not understand how someone who is against abortion can be for the death penalty if their argument is because of terminating a life, because how is the life of a murderer any different? ugh.. it's so complicated, and late.

I wouldn't wish that on anyone either. The question is what do you think is appropriate punishment for someone who commits cold blooded murder?

[rocks 494]

murder is murder. also, two wrongs do not make a right. so no, i do not agree. how does killing someone who killed someone make it better? ok they aren't alive anymore but someone killed them, which then makes them a murderer.

studies show that executed murderers never kill again.

so if we kill the executors too... we will be ok?

If someone killed your child or worse, what punishment would you prefer for them?

that would be a terrible thing and i obviously would not wish that on anyone. no one deserves that to happen to them, no one.

i've known of people dying due to medical negligence, i don't see the doctors being put to death... how are they not a murderer?

i also do not understand how someone who is against abortion can be for the death penalty if their argument is because of terminating a life, because how is the life of a murderer any different? ugh.. it's so complicated, and late.

I wouldn't wish that on anyone either. The question is what do you think is appropriate punishment for someone who commits cold blooded murder?

punishment by jail i suppose. what about negligent doctors?

[S and S 12]

murder is murder. also, two wrongs do not make a right. so no, i do not agree. how does killing someone who killed someone make it better? ok they aren't alive anymore but someone killed them, which then makes them a murderer.

studies show that executed murderers never kill again.

so if we kill the executors too... we will be ok?

If someone killed your child or worse, what punishment would you prefer for them?

that would be a terrible thing and i obviously would not wish that on anyone. no one deserves that to happen to them, no one.

i've known of people dying due to medical negligence, i don't see the doctors being put to death... how are they not a murderer?

i also do not understand how someone who is against abortion can be for the death penalty if their argument is because of terminating a life, because how is the life of a murderer any different? ugh.. it's so complicated, and late.

I wouldn't wish that on anyone either. The question is what do you think is appropriate punishment for someone who commits cold blooded murder?

punishment by jail i suppose. what about negligent doctors?

Depends, if what they did was obviously a mistake then I wouldn't recommend such severe punishment. My point is about people who brutally murder someone, often with the intention ahead of time, and usually feel no remorse. Doctors who make mistakes in surgery wouldn't fall under this category (at least I hope not).

[*JG* 2]

My mind cannot even fathom how this can still be happening...

What are we, in old testament bible times??? It's 2000 and fcuking 8 here people....

RIP to the girl.....so incredibly sad and heartbreaking

So freakin' wrong.

Another reason why I am glad I live in the US, where as women, we actually HAVE rights.

[rocks 494]

murder is murder. also, two wrongs do not make a right. so no, i do not agree. how does killing someone who killed someone make it better? ok they aren't alive anymore but someone killed them, which then makes them a murderer.

studies show that executed murderers never kill again.

so if we kill the executors too... we will be ok?

If someone killed your child or worse, what punishment would you prefer for them?

that would be a terrible thing and i obviously would not wish that on anyone. no one deserves that to happen to them, no one.

i've known of people dying due to medical negligence, i don't see the doctors being put to death... how are they not a murderer?

i also do not understand how someone who is against abortion can be for the death penalty if their argument is because of terminating a life, because how is the life of a murderer any different? ugh.. it's so complicated, and late.

I wouldn't wish that on anyone either. The question is what do you think is appropriate punishment for someone who commits cold blooded murder?

punishment by jail i suppose. what about negligent doctors?

Depends, if what they did was obviously a mistake then I wouldn't recommend such severe punishment. My point is about people who brutally murder someone, often with the intention ahead of time, and usually feel no remorse. Doctors who make mistakes in surgery wouldn't fall under this category (at least I hope not).

i've read a report of negligence, it wasn't a mistake, it was negligence. not from surgery but from severe malpractice which resulted in misdiagnosis. i'm pretty sure nothing happened to this guy because it wasn't pursued in court due to the distress of relatives. you think this guy felt remorse? i doubt it.

[S and S 12]

i've read a report of negligence, it wasn't a mistake, it was negligence. not from surgery but from severe malpractice which resulted in misdiagnosis. i'm pretty sure nothing happened to this guy because it wasn't pursued in court due to the distress of relatives. you think this guy felt remorse? i doubt it.

That guy should do some serious jail time and give reperation money to the relatives if you ask me. I belive the death penalty should be reserved for pre-meditated murders. If it can be proved this doctor planned to kill his patient or be that negligent, then perhaps he would deserve the death penalty too.

Edited November 9, 2008 by S and S

[rocks 494]

murder is murder. also, two wrongs do not make a right. so no, i do not agree. how does killing someone who killed someone make it better? ok they aren't alive anymore but someone killed them, which then makes them a murderer.

studies show that executed murderers never kill again.

so if we kill the executors too... we will be ok?

If someone killed your child or worse, what punishment would you prefer for them?

that would be a terrible thing and i obviously would not wish that on anyone. no one deserves that to happen to them, no one.

i've known of people dying due to medical negligence, i don't see the doctors being put to death... how are they not a murderer?

i also do not understand how someone who is against abortion can be for the death penalty if their argument is because of terminating a life, because how is the life of a murderer any different? ugh.. it's so complicated, and late.

I wouldn't wish that on anyone either. The question is what do you think is appropriate punishment for someone who commits cold blooded murder?

punishment by jail i suppose. what about negligent doctors?

Depends, if what they did was obviously a mistake then I wouldn't recommend such severe punishment. My point is about people who brutally murder someone, often with the intention ahead of time, and usually feel no remorse. Doctors who make mistakes in surgery wouldn't fall under this category (at least I hope not).

i've read a report of negligence, it wasn't a mistake, it was negligence. not from surgery but from severe malpractice which resulted in misdiagnosis. i'm pretty sure nothing happened to this guy because it wasn't pursued in court due to the distress of relatives. you think this guy felt remorse? i doubt it.

That guy should do some serious jail time and give reperation money to the relatives if you ask me. I belive the death penalty should be reserved for pre-meditated murders. If it can be proved this doctor planned to kill his patient or be that negligent, then perhaps he would deserve the death penalty too.

well, neither of those things happened. i'm sure he continued practising as well. they received nothing apart from a letter stating it was negligence on the doctors part. in my angry opinion he should have received the death penalty but in reality as i said, two wrongs do not make a right. when you are emotionally involved in something it is easy for that to cloud your judgement, ethically it is not right to kill anyone.

[S and S 12]

That guy should do some serious jail time and give reperation money to the relatives if you ask me. I belive the death penalty should be reserved for pre-meditated murders. If it can be proved this doctor planned to kill his patient or be that negligent, then perhaps he would deserve the death penalty too.

well, neither of those things happened. i'm sure he continued practising as well. they received nothing apart from a letter stating it was negligence on the doctors part. in my angry opinion he should have received the death penalty but in reality as i said, two wrongs do not make a right. when you are emotionally involved in something it is easy for that to cloud your judgement, ethically it is not right to kill anyone.

Negligence by doctors is really sad. I had a friend whose father was in the emergency room for a serious problem. They told the hospital what things he was allergic to and the hospital failed to note it and actually gave him one of the things he couldn't have. Her father nearly died as a result of that. Doctors do need to be held responsible for such actions as well as any other hosptial personnel involved.

[Scott & Lai 12]

i've known of people dying due to medical negligence, i don't see the doctors being put to death... how are they not a murderer?

i also do not understand how someone who is against abortion can be for the death penalty if their argument is because of terminating a life, because how is the life of a murderer any different? ugh.. it's so complicated, and late.

Death due to negligence isn't a capital offense, as there is no intent to kill.

The argument is not just that abortion is terminating a life, it is terminating an innocent life. The difference between aborting an unborn child and executing a murderer is that one is an innocent, the other is not.