Obama Wants 12 Million Illegals to Get Citizenship

[Gigli2008 70]

If that happens, don't you think they'd have to pay to file as well?

Diana

On a slightly different note: -- I know illegals buy cars for cash and drive on our highways anyway. So give them Drivers License so I can be assured that I am driving next to DPS tested AND insured driver. No DL = No Liability Insurance = unsafe roads and highways. DL's alone should not permit one to get employment. Just don't give them SSNs without proof of legal residency. Just keep the roads safe. And if I do get in an accident with an illegal and its his/her fault, I need assurance of reliable compensation. That's all I'm saying.

[Mononoke28 135]

Good point. You get hit by someone who's uninsured because he/she couldn't get a DL, you're screwed. Sure, they get deported and will probably come back somehow to keep on driving illegally. But you're the one who gets stuck with the problem that wasn't taken care of in the first place.

Diana

[NickD 202]

charles!, if you have an issue with this, take it up with Obama, you are not the only one that has an issue with this, so will I. Recall GWB wanted to claim amnesty for the illegals, with such statements as they are doing jobs Americans do not want to do. More than likely came up with that to keep our minds off of Iraq like gays and privatizing SS. Congress screwed around for awhile with the illegal issue more of a question of supplying bucks to enforce it, but they gave up. Why would that change now. Others have argued we can send trillions to Iraq, but cannot protect our own borders.

But if they do legalized illegals, I will want all my fees and expenses back and will take the USCIS to court if I have to, let's make it a class action suit.

By not issuing driver's licenses, many from our state are leaving, driving without a license has led many to stiff fines, confiscation of all their goods, and deportation with only the shirt left on their backs. It's also mostly a Mexican problem where the majority of illegals are coming from, would be nice to have a president that can work these things out with other nations. We didn't have that either for the last eight years.

[spookyturtle 9,465]

I am so glad I spent 30 months in the wavier process for my wife due to an overstay. It makes me feel good that 12 million people won't have to go thru the pain and suffering. They deserve to be rewarded for breaking the law. Those that follow the rules should be punished. Go Democrats.

[justashooter 430]

Mccain and Palin also supported a "way to make illegals get in line and get their paperwork.. but no, that's not an amnesty' .. what's your point? or maybe the difference was that the reps were lying and were just tricking illegals that they'd help them out?

the amnesty offered in summer 2007 was for the first felony crime of illegal entry. this is an immigration forum, so you should know that.

[tom&tata 2]

If that happens, don't you think they'd have to pay to file as well?

Diana

On a slightly different note: -- I know illegals buy cars for cash and drive on our highways anyway. So give them Drivers License so I can be assured that I am driving next to DPS tested AND insured driver. No DL = No Liability Insurance = unsafe roads and highways. DL's alone should not permit one to get employment. Just don't give them SSNs without proof of legal residency. Just keep the roads safe. And if I do get in an accident with an illegal and its his/her fault, I need assurance of reliable compensation. That's all I'm saying.

Why would anyone wants to drive legally (with proper DL & pay for proper insurance) while they are not here legally? What's the incentive?

[Bootylicious!! 2]

If that happens, don't you think they'd have to pay to file as well?

Diana

On a slightly different note: -- I know illegals buy cars for cash and drive on our highways anyway. So give them Drivers License so I can be assured that I am driving next to DPS tested AND insured driver. No DL = No Liability Insurance = unsafe roads and highways. DL's alone should not permit one to get employment. Just don't give them SSNs without proof of legal residency. Just keep the roads safe. And if I do get in an accident with an illegal and its his/her fault, I need assurance of reliable compensation. That's all I'm saying.

Why would anyone wants to drive legally (with proper DL & pay for proper insurance) while they are not here legally? What's the incentive?

Because contrary to what everyone on here believes "illegals" aren't all about breaking every single law there is out there. My hubby was illegal and didn't break one single law after coming to the US. He had an ITIN, a valid DL, and paid his taxes. It's people like you that just blow my mind. Until you really know about illegals, don't judge, it just makes you look stupid.

[pedroh 21]

If that happens, don't you think they'd have to pay to file as well?

Diana

On a slightly different note: -- I know illegals buy cars for cash and drive on our highways anyway. So give them Drivers License so I can be assured that I am driving next to DPS tested AND insured driver. No DL = No Liability Insurance = unsafe roads and highways. DL's alone should not permit one to get employment. Just don't give them SSNs without proof of legal residency. Just keep the roads safe. And if I do get in an accident with an illegal and its his/her fault, I need assurance of reliable compensation. That's all I'm saying.

Why would anyone wants to drive legally (with proper DL & pay for proper insurance) while they are not here legally? What's the incentive?

Because contrary to what everyone on here believes "illegals" aren't all about breaking every single law there is out there. My hubby was illegal and didn't break one single law after coming to the US. He had an ITIN, a valid DL, and paid his taxes. It's people like you that just blow my mind. Until you really know about illegals, don't judge, it just makes you look stupid.

yea.. tell that to those who think living like an illegal is living like a rockstar, lots of cash, big trucks, big mansions, blings..

[Ban Hammer 13,337]

charles!, if you have an issue with this, take it up with Obama, you are not the only one that has an issue with this, so will I.

how about no. is no good enough for you?

where were you when all the anti-bush threads were being tossed out into ot?

[Gigli2008 70]

If that happens, don't you think they'd have to pay to file as well?

Diana

On a slightly different note: -- I know illegals buy cars for cash and drive on our highways anyway. So give them Drivers License so I can be assured that I am driving next to DPS tested AND insured driver. No DL = No Liability Insurance = unsafe roads and highways. DL's alone should not permit one to get employment. Just don't give them SSNs without proof of legal residency. Just keep the roads safe. And if I do get in an accident with an illegal and its his/her fault, I need assurance of reliable compensation. That's all I'm saying.

Why would anyone wants to drive legally (with proper DL & pay for proper insurance) while they are not here legally? What's the incentive?

That's one of my concerns. First I would say that it is illegal to drive without a license and insurance so....how about one less illegal activity while you are here.

My thinking is - 1). You get caught driving unlicensed and uninsured, then you lose your eligibility for future legalization. 2) You immediately get jailed and forwarded to ICE (that might be a good State Law). That might be incentive enough. But I may be wrong

[Ban Hammer 13,337]

If that happens, don't you think they'd have to pay to file as well?

Diana

On a slightly different note: -- I know illegals buy cars for cash and drive on our highways anyway. So give them Drivers License so I can be assured that I am driving next to DPS tested AND insured driver. No DL = No Liability Insurance = unsafe roads and highways. DL's alone should not permit one to get employment. Just don't give them SSNs without proof of legal residency. Just keep the roads safe. And if I do get in an accident with an illegal and its his/her fault, I need assurance of reliable compensation. That's all I'm saying.

Why would anyone wants to drive legally (with proper DL & pay for proper insurance) while they are not here legally? What's the incentive?

That's one of my concerns. First I would say that it is illegal to drive without a license and insurance so....how about one less illegal activity while you are here.

My thinking is - 1). You get caught driving unlicensed and uninsured, then you lose your eligibility for future legalization. 2) You immediately get jailed and forwarded to ICE (that might be a good State Law). That might be incentive enough. But I may be wrong

given how many get a dwi and still get released to repeat that very process, it seems they don't have much to fear regarding being turned over to ice.

[symbiosis 0]

ah yea, but Bush ###### up, many many times, this guy hasn't even started.. Bushbashing was so obvious.. let Obama's term being, and then u can bash his mistakes

I remember Bush bashing started as early as June 2001. The bashing was the same all along. Only the topics and harshness changed, worsened, over time.

If Obama was a Republican would the support have been the same. I think not.

Then have the decency to wait at least 6 months. Thank you.

[akdiver 3]

Obama also has said he wants to make the 12 million illegal aliens in the U.S. citizens as soon as he can — an amnesty program that would make them legally entitled to full government benefits, including Social Security and health care.

Nothing like securing the re-election vote.

[Gigli2008 70]

If that happens, don't you think they'd have to pay to file as well?

Diana

On a slightly different note: -- I know illegals buy cars for cash and drive on our highways anyway. So give them Drivers License so I can be assured that I am driving next to DPS tested AND insured driver. No DL = No Liability Insurance = unsafe roads and highways. DL's alone should not permit one to get employment. Just don't give them SSNs without proof of legal residency. Just keep the roads safe. And if I do get in an accident with an illegal and its his/her fault, I need assurance of reliable compensation. That's all I'm saying.

Why would anyone wants to drive legally (with proper DL & pay for proper insurance) while they are not here legally? What's the incentive?

That's one of my concerns. First I would say that it is illegal to drive without a license and insurance so....how about one less illegal activity while you are here.

My thinking is - 1). You get caught driving unlicensed and uninsured, then you lose your eligibility for future legalization. 2) You immediately get jailed and forwarded to ICE (that might be a good State Law). That might be incentive enough. But I may be wrong

given how many get a dwi and still get released to repeat that very process, it seems they don't have much to fear regarding being turned over to ice.

Good Point. I think (I am not sure) but when they apply for LPR they have a rough time with the application. If the law would be clear (State Law) on what steps to take when a DWI turns out to be an illegal, especially by tying them with ICE if this happens, the results might be different. However, many states have drawn a line between Immigration matters and other Legal matters.

Edited November 5, 2008 by Gigli2008

[Ban Hammer 13,337]

If that happens, don't you think they'd have to pay to file as well?

Diana

On a slightly different note: -- I know illegals buy cars for cash and drive on our highways anyway. So give them Drivers License so I can be assured that I am driving next to DPS tested AND insured driver. No DL = No Liability Insurance = unsafe roads and highways. DL's alone should not permit one to get employment. Just don't give them SSNs without proof of legal residency. Just keep the roads safe. And if I do get in an accident with an illegal and its his/her fault, I need assurance of reliable compensation. That's all I'm saying.

Why would anyone wants to drive legally (with proper DL & pay for proper insurance) while they are not here legally? What's the incentive?

That's one of my concerns. First I would say that it is illegal to drive without a license and insurance so....how about one less illegal activity while you are here.

My thinking is - 1). You get caught driving unlicensed and uninsured, then you lose your eligibility for future legalization. 2) You immediately get jailed and forwarded to ICE (that might be a good State Law). That might be incentive enough. But I may be wrong

given how many get a dwi and still get released to repeat that very process, it seems they don't have much to fear regarding being turned over to ice.

Good Point. I think (I am not sure) but when they apply for LPR they have a rough time with the application. If the law would be clear (State Law) on what steps to take when a DWI turns out to be an illegal, especially by tying them with ICE if this happens, the results might be different. However, many states have drawn a line between Immigration matters and other Legal matters.

when they apply for lpr?