i need advice

[i need advice 0]

hello visa journy

i have been reading on this ite and its really very good site and its so useful .

and i have noticed about the MENA forum members is that you seem to love giving advice

and i really need your advice .

i met my fiancee ( us citizen) online .at that point she was married to an egyptain man for 2 months.

she found out that he is so bad man and he just wants her money and he was using her to move to usa.

we were just friends at first and after afew months while she was asking her husband to divorce her we found out that we are more than friends .

so she decided to come to see me and we reallt spent very good 15 days together . and we found out that we really love each other more than we thought.

3 months later he divorced her it was (11 months marriage ) she just has been with him for one time . ( the same time she got married to him thats all )

anyway after she got divorced we decided to get married and she came to visit me again but we we spent another 15 days together but we couldn't get married at that point cause there was a problem between the usa embassy in cairo and the government in cairo.

so we decided to file for k1 visa i know that we can get married now but she is not that rich and she can't afford it to come to see me again .

i know maybe we have some issues . maybe its not good cause we met when she was still married and just after 2 months of her marriage .

but they were separated . not talking . he was calling her to ask her for money....

i know that the usa embassy in cairo is not that easy and they give problems to people who have clean cases so what do you think they will do to us when we have those issues?!!!

we don't want to hide anything and we want to be honest . we want to be safe than sorry .

at the same time i read that the usa embassy is so nice to people now and they treat them so good.

so my question now is is there anyone here have the same case like me ? i would like to know and if anyone have the same case like me and don't want to talk about it in public he/she can send me private message

i think it will depends on the person who will interview me .

but do you think they will refuse me cause of those reasons ??!!!!

we are really scared to death

thank you so much any advice will be appreciated .

[Tunisia216 2]

In my experience, as long as she was legally divorced prior to your engagement (did you have a ceremony?) I don't think that it's a problem. I know that it's been said that Cairo is a hard embassy, but I went through Tunis and I had met my husband three times before my divorce and then I married him several months after my divorce and they never made an issue out of the fact that we met each other (face to face) while I was still legally married in the US. I was separated and the court divorce papers did back that up, but I was still legally married and they never made any issue out of it - neither USCIS/NVC in approving my petitions or the embassy in granting him the visa. If that is the only 'red flag' or issue that you have and she can support that she was separated from her husband at the time she met you, I don't think it's going to be a problem for you. The most important thing is that you present a very strong case in your petitions and in your interview. Lots of evidence, passport stamps, ticket stubs from her flights, photos from her time there, (both trips) chat logs, phone records, copies of post that you may have sent one another, etc. There are many examples were red flags have been overcome by very strong evidence. I wish you both the best.

Have you filed the K 1 visa yet? She could include a notarized statement of explanation with the petition that she was legally separated from her husband (living at separate address or living in different rooms of the same home, etc) She might even get family members or friends to write something similar verifying the separation and have it notarized and include it with the petition. I'm not sure what state she is living in and did her divorce through, but many times the divorce papers will show a "date of separation" and in a lot of states this date has to be 6 months (or more for some) prior to the granting of the divorce. That might help you guys?

[Tunisia216 2]

I just wanted to add something - I don't know if this has any affect or not but did your fiance petition for the Egyptian man she was married with to come to the USA? Did she file any immigration related papers on his behalf? I don't know if that could be a possible concern or not? You would have to speak with others who have been married more than once to other foreign citizens and brought them to the USA successfully.

[nunyab 0]

sorry have no idea to help but wanted you to know i read your post... good luck

[i need advice 0]

In my experience, as long as she was legally divorced prior to your engagement (did you have a ceremony?) I don't think that it's a problem. I know that it's been said that Cairo is a hard embassy, but I went through Tunis and I had met my husband three times before my divorce and then I married him several months after my divorce and they never made an issue out of the fact that we met each other (face to face) while I was still legally married in the US. I was separated and the court divorce papers did back that up, but I was still legally married and they never made any issue out of it - neither USCIS/NVC in approving my petitions or the embassy in granting him the visa. If that is the only 'red flag' or issue that you have and she can support that she was separated from her husband at the time she met you, I don't think it's going to be a problem for you. The most important thing is that you present a very strong case in your petitions and in your interview. Lots of evidence, passport stamps, ticket stubs from her flights, photos from her time there, (both trips) chat logs, phone records, copies of post that you may have sent one another, etc. There are many examples were red flags have been overcome by very strong evidence. I wish you both the best.

Have you filed the K 1 visa yet? She could include a notarized statement of explanation with the petition that she was legally separated from her husband (living at separate address or living in different rooms of the same home, etc) She might even get family members or friends to write something similar verifying the separation and have it notarized and include it with the petition. I'm not sure what state she is living in and did her divorce through, but many times the divorce papers will show a "date of separation" and in a lot of states this date has to be 6 months (or more for some) prior to the granting of the divorce. That might help you guys?

first off thank you so much for your comment .

she got divorced in egypt i mean her ex-husband divorced here in egypt cause he lives in egypt .she has been one time with him ( the same time she got married) .

yeah we filed for the k1 she says that she was separating from him in the questions 18 in the i-129f form about how we met . and she says he was using her to get money and say bad words to her......

yeah some of her family and her friends wrote some letters for us and we sent them to the uscis but they just talking about me and my fiancee . they didn't say anything about her ex .

I just wanted to add something - I don't know if this has any affect or not but did your fiance petition for the Egyptian man she was married with to come to the USA? Did she file any immigration related papers on his behalf? I don't know if that could be a possible concern or not? You would have to speak with others who have been married more than once to other foreign citizens and brought them to the USA successfully.

no she didn't file for him .

sorry have no idea to help but wanted you to know i read your post... good luck

thank you so much

[morocco4ever 63]

I am glad that you want to be honest with them. They have ways of knowing things, so if you hide anything it can and will come back to bite you. If she never petitioned him then I think you are safe in that arena, but you will want to make sure that she has evidence to prove that the marriage was already failing before you came into the picture. They have denied petitions of some that they feel the recipient broke up the marriage.

Another thing, you say she doesn't have much money, will she need a co sponsor?

[Sandrila 1]

I dont know much about your exact situation (k1) but I think it is a GOOD sign she did NOT file for her ex-husband.

Sorry for her to have to deal with a creep as such but hopefully found a TRUE man in you!

Good luck for what you are about to embark.

are you engaged? I just know if you are you need all the proof you can provide and SAVE EVERYTHING!

I would like to add also, I did not meet the financial qualifications to solely sponsor my husband so we had to get a

Co-Sponsor...check your poverty guidelines.

Edited November 3, 2008 by sandrila

[i need advice 0]

I am glad that you want to be honest with them. They have ways of knowing things, so if you hide anything it can and will come back to bite you. If she never petitioned him then I think you are safe in that arena, but you will want to make sure that she has evidence to prove that the marriage was already failing before you came into the picture. They have denied petitions of some that they feel the recipient broke up the marriage.

Another thing, you say she doesn't have much money, will she need a co sponsor?

no she doesn't need a co sponsor she makes enough to support me .

i don't know what kind of evidence she supposed to have to prove that the marriage was already failing before i came into the picture?

[i need advice 0]

I dont know much about your exact situation (k1) but I think it is a GOOD sign she did NOT file for her ex-husband.

Sorry for her to have to deal with a creep as such but hopefully found a TRUE man in you!

Good luck for what you are about to embark.

are you engaged? I just know if you are you need all the proof you can provide and SAVE EVERYTHING!

I would like to add also, I did not meet the financial qualifications to solely sponsor my husband so we had to get a

Co-Sponsor...check your poverty guidelines.

yeah we are engaged and we had a ceremony and so many pictures of her with me and my family at the engagement party and we have professional pictures of our engagement party............so many emails..greeting cards ....gifts receipts.....

she makes enough and we don't have to get a co sponsor

thank you so much .

[i need advice 0]

I am glad that you want to be honest with them. They have ways of knowing things, so if you hide anything it can and will come back to bite you. If she never petitioned him then I think you are safe in that arena, but you will want to make sure that she has evidence to prove that the marriage was already failing before you came into the picture. They have denied petitions of some that they feel the recipient broke up the marriage.

Another thing, you say she doesn't have much money, will she need a co sponsor?

no she doesn't need a co sponsor she makes enough to support me .

i don't know what kind of evidence she supposed to have to prove that the marriage was already failing before i came into the picture?

yeah i forgot to say something i have some of her emails to me when we just met talking about that she have problems with her husband and she want to divorce him cause he treating her bad and he says bad words to her ...... and we sent that emails to uscis

will that be good ? and is that will be enough ?!!

[morocco4ever 63]

I am glad that you want to be honest with them. They have ways of knowing things, so if you hide anything it can and will come back to bite you. If she never petitioned him then I think you are safe in that arena, but you will want to make sure that she has evidence to prove that the marriage was already failing before you came into the picture. They have denied petitions of some that they feel the recipient broke up the marriage.

Another thing, you say she doesn't have much money, will she need a co sponsor?

no she doesn't need a co sponsor she makes enough to support me .

i don't know what kind of evidence she supposed to have to prove that the marriage was already failing before i came into the picture?

yeah i forgot to say something i have some of her emails to me when we just met talking about that she have problems with her husband and she want to divorce him cause he treating her bad and he says bad words to her ...... and we sent that emails to uscis

will that be good ? and is that will be enough ?!!

That will be helpful. And be prepared in case the consulate asks you questions about it as well. If there is something she could provide, such as emails between her and her husband before the day you met.

[Martiniolive 0]

I do not think you will need to mention any cause for her decision to divorce or getting a divorce from her first husband. But just be prepared in case they ask you about it in your interview. They might want to know that you know details about her and her past. But you/she don';t need to have an excuse or reason for getting together at that close a time. Hey she made a mistake...now she has her true love...it's simple..best wishes to you both

I am glad that you want to be honest with them. They have ways of knowing things, so if you hide anything it can and will come back to bite you. If she never petitioned him then I think you are safe in that arena, but you will want to make sure that she has evidence to prove that the marriage was already failing before you came into the picture. They have denied petitions of some that they feel the recipient broke up the marriage.

Another thing, you say she doesn't have much money, will she need a co sponsor?

no she doesn't need a co sponsor she makes enough to support me .

i don't know what kind of evidence she supposed to have to prove that the marriage was already failing before i came into the picture?

yeah i forgot to say something i have some of her emails to me when we just met talking about that she have problems with her husband and she want to divorce him cause he treating her bad and he says bad words to her ...... and we sent that emails to uscis

will that be good ? and is that will be enough ?!!

[i need advice 0]

I do not think you will need to mention any cause for her decision to divorce or getting a divorce from her first husband. But just be prepared in case they ask you about it in your interview. They might want to know that you know details about her and her past. But you/she don';t need to have an excuse or reason for getting together at that close a time. Hey she made a mistake...now she has her true love...it's simple..best wishes to you both

I am glad that you want to be honest with them. They have ways of knowing things, so if you hide anything it can and will come back to bite you. If she never petitioned him then I think you are safe in that arena, but you will want to make sure that she has evidence to prove that the marriage was already failing before you came into the picture. They have denied petitions of some that they feel the recipient broke up the marriage.

Another thing, you say she doesn't have much money, will she need a co sponsor?

no she doesn't need a co sponsor she makes enough to support me .

i don't know what kind of evidence she supposed to have to prove that the marriage was already failing before i came into the picture?

yeah i forgot to say something i have some of her emails to me when we just met talking about that she have problems with her husband and she want to divorce him cause he treating her bad and he says bad words to her ...... and we sent that emails to uscis

will that be good ? and is that will be enough ?!!

thank you so much for your comment

you know she keep saying that . she says it was my mistake and my fault but i didn't know that he is that bad .

i hope they will understand that at the usa embassy .