Hawaii officially verifies Obama's birth certificate

[Dr. A ♥ O 203]

So what happens? Obama is elected president in two days. Then the tapes are released of his Paternal Grandma, Sarah, saying she was in the Kenya delivery room when his mother gave birth? Then Obama has to resign before he starts? Then Biden steps into Presidency and appoints his own VP which may very well be Hillary Clinton?

Then what if Biden is found to be an alien from Mars, we must amend the Constitution to not include Martians as able to be President. But since ex post facto is illegal, we may very well have to deal with 4 years of a Martian President. Think about the consequences, people.

That makes no sense.

Oh, sorry, I thought this was crazy hypothetical situation thread.

Ah couda' fooled me. I just thought you were on the attack.

Speaking of which I'm having an incoming msgr attack right now!!!! Yikes!!

[akdiver 3]

Then what if Biden is found to be an alien from Mars, we must amend the Constitution to not include Martians as able to be President. But since ex post facto is illegal, we may very well have to deal with 4 years of a Martian President. Think about the consequences, people.

Not really. It's already illegal for Martians to become president of the U.S. under the constitution.

[IAMX 3,055]

Then what if Biden is found to be an alien from Mars, we must amend the Constitution to not include Martians as able to be President. But since ex post facto is illegal, we may very well have to deal with 4 years of a Martian President. Think about the consequences, people.

Not really. It's already illegal for Martians to become president of the U.S. under the constitution.

We (well, the rest of you) will find out after he becomes President. It's all a conspiracy.

Edited November 3, 2008 by SRVT

[akdiver 3]

Then what if Biden is found to be an alien from Mars, we must amend the Constitution to not include Martians as able to be President. But since ex post facto is illegal, we may very well have to deal with 4 years of a Martian President. Think about the consequences, people.

Not really. It's already illegal for Martians to become president of the U.S. under the constitution.

We (well, the rest of you) will find out after he becomes President. It's all a conspiracy.

But even if it is revealed after the fact, he is instantly null and void as the president. Actually - I wonder how that would work. Since a Martian could never legally become president in the first place, once sworn in and found out later, if he (assuming Martians can be divided into he and she) would automatically no longer be president (since, constitutionally, he was never eligible), or would there be a requirement for "due process".

Actually, I think what would happen is the VP would invoke the 25th amendment (section 4). That would certainly be the fast track way to do things. Yeah - thinking about it - I think that's how it would go.

[Dr. A ♥ O 203]

Then what if Biden is found to be an alien from Mars, we must amend the Constitution to not include Martians as able to be President. But since ex post facto is illegal, we may very well have to deal with 4 years of a Martian President. Think about the consequences, people.

Not really. It's already illegal for Martians to become president of the U.S. under the constitution.

We (well, the rest of you) will find out after he becomes President. It's all a conspiracy.

But even if it is revealed after the fact, he is instantly null and void as the president. Actually - I wonder how that would work. Since a Martian could never legally become president in the first place, once sworn in and found out later, if he (assuming Martians can be divided into he and she) would automatically no longer be president (since, constitutionally, he was never eligible), or would there be a requirement for "due process".

Actually, I think what would happen is the VP would invoke the 25th amendment (section 4). That would certainly be the fast track way to do things. Yeah - thinking about it - I think that's how it would go.

Is that what Ford did when Nixon resigned? The only appointed president of the United States from a Vice President office under the only resigning President in United States History?

[akdiver 3]

Is that what Ford did when Nixon resigned? The only appointed president of the United States from a Vice President office under the only resigning President in United States History?

No. Ford became president, but it wasn't due to section 4 of the 25th amendment. It was due to section 1 of the 25th amendment.

[IAMX 3,055]

Then what if Biden is found to be an alien from Mars, we must amend the Constitution to not include Martians as able to be President. But since ex post facto is illegal, we may very well have to deal with 4 years of a Martian President. Think about the consequences, people.

Not really. It's already illegal for Martians to become president of the U.S. under the constitution.

We (well, the rest of you) will find out after he becomes President. It's all a conspiracy.

But even if it is revealed after the fact, he is instantly null and void as the president. Actually - I wonder how that would work. Since a Martian could never legally become president in the first place, once sworn in and found out later, if he (assuming Martians can be divided into he and she) would automatically no longer be president (since, constitutionally, he was never eligible), or would there be a requirement for "due process".

Actually, I think what would happen is the VP would invoke the 25th amendment (section 4). That would certainly be the fast track way to do things. Yeah - thinking about it - I think that's how it would go.

You haven't seen their death rays.

Good news is, I hear their weakness is Slim Whitman.

[natty bumppo 297]

It won't stop the conspiracy theory nutjobs in filling the elections with irrelevant ####### regarding Obama.

so what does this have to do with the "last minute find" of documents? it only took Hawaii HOW LONG to produce? Maybe HI still uses monks to create official documents ....

Do you work in the Hawaii state government? Do you know an exact timeline it takes to produce "verification"? Enlighten me.

I also suppose the state should have no more priority in their government function than to cater to conspiracy theorists, ignoring state law regarding who gets a copy of any Hawaiian's birth certificate.

Let's see ... this "conspiracy theory" you've been spewing about has been hanging on for how many months? ... humm ...

How long does it take to check BC records for a presidential candidate ... humm ... how many months to pull the file ... then how many months to send someone to the hospital to verify the hospital records match. And it all came to light with resolution just ... need a drum roll here ... a few days before the election ... pleeaaasssseee ... how melodramatic.

fwiw: Asking a dr or staff to recall a single birth 40+ years ago (if they are still alive) ... out of probably thousands conducted ... well ... unless it was an extreme circumstance ... all the babies and moms might get confusing to be positive about remembering an exact one ...

[IAMX 3,055]

Let's see ... this "conspiracy theory" you've been spewing about has been hanging on for how many months? ... humm ...

How many years has the Roswell and 9/11 conspiracy theories been hanging around?

Yeah, I guess, just because some people believe it, means we should take it seriously, despite all of the evidence to the contrary of their nutcase theories.

How long does it take to check BC records for a presidential candidate ... humm ... how many months to pull the file ... then how many months to send someone to the hospital to verify the hospital records match. And it all came to light with resolution just ... need a drum roll here ... a few days before the election ... pleeaaasssseee ... how melodramatic.

Hmm, since to even work for the FBI you need a birth certificate, I'm pretty sure the government knows Obama's status, which is why you don't see the ANYONE from the government, especially of Republicans in Congress or the Executive, ranting and raving about Obama's legitimacy in regards to citizenship requirements. Just conspiracy theorists with the assumption that, because Hawaii wants to uphold it's privacy laws regarding handing copies of birth certificates/records to the public, and Obama isn't going to give it away to anyone who wants it, that means he must not be eligible.

You sure waste lots of time on worthless issues. Maybe this is why the most popular candidates are so awful and have to answer extremely few tough questions. Thanks to conspiracy theory nutjobs and people worrying far more about every single person a candidate has ever talked to in their life, pertinent issues relating to the economy, civil rights, the war, etc. go almost entirely overlooked. That likely helps you justify your vote, because on these issues your candidate likely sucks, so a diversion from these issues is likely wise anyways.

[HAL 9000 96]

Or the State of Hawaii is just sick of stupid people making stupid claims counter to logic and finally has produced verification in order to stfu some of the more lunatic voices out there? Who knows.