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The difference is, LS won't be ridiculed like you are. Most people actually Respect LuckyStrike.....

LuckyStrike might be brilliant for all I know, but posting this clip certainly doesn't count as evidence of that. Again the clip proves nothing.... zilch.... zero. Then VW arrives with the typical garbage abour liberals, which she knows I am not.

If you right wingers want to be taken seriously for the love of God stop posting nonsense & make a decent point. I know it can be done because my best friend is a Republican & he actually has valid points. Maybe I should invite him to the forum & he can add some credibility to your point of view; you obviously need someone to champion your cause.

You don't want to be lumped in with the libs, but you can call us right wingers. You call my conservative arguments garbage, and spend your time defending Obama, but you don't consider yourself to be a liberal. There's not much evidence that you're not a liberal, so I don't know that you're not at all.

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LS, unless you are a lib, you are pointless here. They don't want a mirror held up to them, or a challenge set to them. The open-minded only want to talk to the like-minded. They make that clear.

Yeah.

I worry about taking care of my family and no politician will change that. It's called being responsible (as you know). But the libs think Obama will wave his magic wand and make everything all better. They are delusional. B)

i am very much doubt that they all think that :rolleyes:

each side has its wack jobs..

it is silly and stupid to just lump them all together ...

I'm sure that no one means ALL, Marilyn. On this board, at least, they are the ones we are most likely to constantly tangle with because, wrong or right, they're all about defense for their man.

Do you think you are somehow different? Don't you see that you are just as wacky as the people you are criticizing? Can you really not see the way you are behaving?

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The funny thing is if you challenge the OP you're called a drone. Lots of irony there that a drone is calling me a drone.

Still have yet to see from the OP how this translates to Obama paying for your mortgage and gas.

Maybe if you namecall enough people will forget the actual issue behind the topic.

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The difference is, LS won't be ridiculed like you are. Most people actually Respect LuckyStrike.....

I don't mind being ridiculed. I don't post to garner respect or popularity. The caliber of my opposition is nothing to crow about anyway.

VW you have a very inflated self image and think that everyone with a view different than your own is a liberal (you've used much worse terms in the past). I give you & your ilk such a hard time here because you stereotype, misrepresent & distort in almost every post you make. Personally I would love to see an intelligent, rational Republican to trade opinions with here but to be completely honest I can't think of a single one that posts in this forum.

Based on what I've seen here the right leaning posters are only interested in smearing Obama, labeling anyone with a different view a socialist, liberal, unpatriotic, etc. and basically just stirring up trouble. It's hard to take the high road & even harder to take any of you seriously because of your antics. When I post hard facts about a particular topic or proof that my views are very far from being liberal there isn't one single response & that's because all of you are here to push your bias & like I suggested to cause trouble.

I don't have an inflated self-image. You have an image of me that's inflated. Besides, what is the purpose of saying that to me? You think it affects my view of myself? Oh, no! nowhereman thinks badly of me! I must repent! That you're making friends and influencing people? No, it doesn't sweeten the pot.

What was the first thing you said to me, again? It wasn't exactly intelligent and rational.

I read your posts; you are just as guilty as those you accuse. I understand the frustration you may be feeling, but I also see that you have just as easily learned to go with the flow here, whether you like it or not, as have many of us. Unfortunately, civility is taken as weakness here when you have a minority pov.

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LS, unless you are a lib, you are pointless here. They don't want a mirror held up to them, or a challenge set to them. The open-minded only want to talk to the like-minded. They make that clear.

Yeah.

I worry about taking care of my family and no politician will change that. It's called being responsible (as you know). But the libs think Obama will wave his magic wand and make everything all better. They are delusional. B)

i am very much doubt that they all think that :rolleyes:

each side has its wack jobs..

it is silly and stupid to just lump them all together ...

I'm sure that no one means ALL, Marilyn. On this board, at least, they are the ones we are most likely to constantly tangle with because, wrong or right, they're all about defense for their man.

Do you think you are somehow different? Don't you see that you are just as wacky as the people you are criticizing? Can you really not see the way you are behaving?

I think you're wacky too. Will you change the way you post because I said that?

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The difference is, LS won't be ridiculed like you are. Most people actually Respect LuckyStrike.....

LuckyStrike might be brilliant for all I know, but posting this clip certainly doesn't count as evidence of that. Again the clip proves nothing.... zilch.... zero. Then VW arrives with the typical garbage abour liberals, which she knows I am not.

If you right wingers want to be taken seriously for the love of God stop posting nonsense & make a decent point. I know it can be done because my best friend is a Republican & he actually has valid points. Maybe I should invite him to the forum & he can add some credibility to your point of view; you obviously need someone to champion your cause.

You don't want to be lumped in with the libs, but you can call us right wingers. You call my conservative arguments garbage, and spend your time defending Obama, but you don't consider yourself to be a liberal. There's not much evidence that you're not a liberal, so I don't know that you're not at all.

Duck, duck, duck.

The "garbage" I spoke of is the rhetoric & distortions that are common both here and with the McCain crowd in general. Another big piece of garbage is the knee jerk reaction by you & the other right wingers to automatically "lump" everyone who disagrees with you together and call them liberals, which is simply untrue. Now take a hard, objective look at the "right wing" crowd I am talking about... you, Metta, GaryC, apparently LuckyStrike, Kaydee, Rogue, etc. & think about some of the posts and comments that each of you has made. How many times has one of you started a thread with some ridiculous comment, a list of stereotypes about Obama or liberals, or flat out lies? Now compare that with the posts started by the non-right wingers and their comments... if you take away the occasional personal attack (which 99.99% of the time is in response to some ignorant comment or stereotype) you have absolutely nothing left but the garbage posted by the right wingers. My point? The overwhelming majority of ignorant, false or distorted comments here are made by your peers & that is why I call you right wingers... a duck is a duck as you put it.

As for me "not being a liberal" I listed my political views in detail in another thread & you acknowledged that my views were not typical of a liberal. Again the reason I take issue with the comments of the right wingers & how McCain has run his campaign has very little to do with conservative views but a lot to do with your attempts to smear Obama & anyone who supports him (liberal, socialist, unpatriotic, mindless sheep, etc). I've also said more than once that if you laid Obama's policies alongside McCain's you would find two things. First the perception of the right just doesn't reflect reality & two their policies are not as dissimilar as one might think.

I've said on several occasions that the main reason McCain will (likely) lose this election is because of the negative, dishonest campaign that he has run. If he truly distanced himself from Bush & ran a decent campaign he might have got my vote, but more importantly may have won over the critical group that will make or break this election (a group I am part of)... the Independent voter. McCain has failed to realize he is his own worst enemy & the same goes for the right-leaning posters on this forum... you aren't going to get support by constantly stereotyping, mislabeling & bashing those with a different view.

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Now take a hard, objective look at the "right wing" crowd I am talking about... you, Metta, GaryC, apparently LuckyStrike, Kaydee, Rogue, etc.

OK, I gotta bite on this one. If you can call Metta, one of the most ardent of Hilary Clinton (left wing, liberal, insert other Democrat adjective here) supporters known to man, a "right winger", just how far off to the left is Barack Obama? :huh:

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The difference is, LS won't be ridiculed like you are. Most people actually Respect LuckyStrike.....

I don't mind being ridiculed. I don't post to garner respect or popularity. The caliber of my opposition is nothing to crow about anyway.

VW you have a very inflated self image and think that everyone with a view different than your own is a liberal (you've used much worse terms in the past). I give you & your ilk such a hard time here because you stereotype, misrepresent & distort in almost every post you make. Personally I would love to see an intelligent, rational Republican to trade opinions with here but to be completely honest I can't think of a single one that posts in this forum.

Based on what I've seen here the right leaning posters are only interested in smearing Obama, labeling anyone with a different view a socialist, liberal, unpatriotic, etc. and basically just stirring up trouble. It's hard to take the high road & even harder to take any of you seriously because of your antics. When I post hard facts about a particular topic or proof that my views are very far from being liberal there isn't one single response & that's because all of you are here to push your bias & like I suggested to cause trouble.

I don't have an inflated self-image. You have an image of me that's inflated. Besides, what is the purpose of saying that to me? You think it affects my view of myself? Oh, no! nowhereman thinks badly of me! I must repent! That you're making friends and influencing people? No, it doesn't sweeten the pot.

What was the first thing you said to me, again? It wasn't exactly intelligent and rational.

I read your posts; you are just as guilty as those you accuse. I understand the frustration you may be feeling, but I also see that you have just as easily learned to go with the flow here, whether you like it or not, as have many of us. Unfortunately, civility is taken as weakness here when you have a minority pov.

:rofl: "I don't have an inflated self-image. You have an image of me that's inflated." The phrase "it is what it is" applies here... don't over-analyze this. You've commented numerous times how you feel that nobody here is your intellectual equal (or something to that effect). Just own the truth & move on... just be careful that confidence is a good thing & arrogance is a bad thing and you come across as arrogant much of the time (and with all due respect not always a warranted self appraisal).

As for my posts yea I am consistently replying to a comment from a right winger (with a few notable exceptions, like disagreeing with some non-right wingers about a topic related to the military). However as I just stated I am often replying to the stereotype, rhetoric or misrepresentation and not the conservative view per se. That may sound like I am splitting hairs but it's a very important distinction. As for my "frustration" I am frustrated by the ignorance and blatant bias consistently presented here... you may argue that I am biased & hey you are welcome to your opinion but I never create the problem (I may make a personal attack in response, which is of course bad but the lesser of two evils).

As for "civility being a weakness" look at the reaction you got when you started a thread about religion... you just wanted an honest discussion & although I didn't read all of the posts from what I saw that's exactly what you got. Now when someone posts a list of liberal stereotypes (which has been done) or starts off with some smear about Obama you can't expect a decent conversation or get all offended when someone attacks back.

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Now take a hard, objective look at the "right wing" crowd I am talking about... you, Metta, GaryC, apparently LuckyStrike, Kaydee, Rogue, etc.

OK, I gotta bite on this one. If you can call Metta, one of the most ardent of Hilary Clinton (left wing, liberal, insert other Democrat adjective here) supporters known to man, a "right winger", just how far off to the left is Barack Obama? :huh:

I've only noticed Metta's comments in the past few weeks... I can't say one way or another what he said 2 months ago... but the comments I've seen are definitely right wing in flavor. Maybe he just hates Obama, but I am calling a spade a spade.

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Now take a hard, objective look at the "right wing" crowd I am talking about... you, Metta, GaryC, apparently LuckyStrike, Kaydee, Rogue, etc.

OK, I gotta bite on this one. If you can call Metta, one of the most ardent of Hilary Clinton (left wing, liberal, insert other Democrat adjective here) supporters known to man, a "right winger", just how far off to the left is Barack Obama? :huh:

I've only noticed Metta's comments in the past few weeks... I can't say one way or another what he said 2 months ago... but the comments I've seen are definitely right wing in flavor. Maybe he just hates Obama, but I am calling a spade a spade.

Oh he was- at least by his pro-Clinton threads, what you could call a Hilbot. Now, bitterness aside, it could just be that it was all a part of Rush's Operation Chaos plan that didn't work. Honestly... most could care less and we should be in that 'most' category. :)

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The funny thing is if you challenge the OP you're called a drone. Lots of irony there that a drone is calling me a drone.

Still have yet to see from the OP how this translates to Obama paying for your mortgage and gas.

Maybe if you namecall enough people will forget the actual issue behind the topic.

You started the name calling. How convienient... you forgot. You lefties are a bunch of bullies.

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You started the name calling. How convienient... you forgot. You lefties are a bunch of bullies.

you started it by making claims that weren't true.

"Modest Expectations from Obama Supporter, I think she posts here in OT"

"Obama will pay your mortgage and for your gas. How could I not vote for him?"

"I won't have to worry about gas in my car, I won't have to worry about paying my mortgage"

How does that translate to Obama is going to pay for it?

do you have a response to that? i don't hear her saying that he is going to pay for it, i hear her saying she doesn't have to worry about it, as we all currently have to do due to the republicans running the country into the ground and killing the economy...

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You started the name calling. How convienient... you forgot. You lefties are a bunch of bullies.

you started it by making claims that weren't true.

"Modest Expectations from Obama Supporter, I think she posts here in OT"

"Obama will pay your mortgage and for your gas. How could I not vote for him?"

"I won't have to worry about gas in my car, I won't have to worry about paying my mortgage"

How does that translate to Obama is going to pay for it?

do you have a response to that? i don't hear her saying that he is going to pay for it, i hear her saying she doesn't have to worry about it, as we all currently have to do due to the republicans running the country into the ground and killing the economy...

probably no more of an answer beyond yet another sh!it meet spoon reply.

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