Palin changes her last name

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Thanks, you just made me like her even more. She is really sweet. A true Washington outsider, new face to politics, just what we need in this country.

...I can guarantee she doesn't have those radical associations like Barack Hussein Obama, wow!!! Black liberation theology for 20+ years. Could you imagine!!! Getting your daughters baptized by a guy that says "GD America", "US of KKK of A"!!! That alone is a bad omen.

Then you got his pal Ayers who bombed the US Pentagon, NYC Police Headquarters, dedicated a book to the man that assassinated our wonderful president John F. Kennedy!!! On top of that Barack has no experience!!! He picks a Washington insider as his running mate that has been in the Senate since his 20s!! Biden is supposed to be the foreign policy expert and he voted against the Gulf War to allow Saddam to capture Kuwait, then he realized he was wrong a voted on Kuwait so he took a chance and voted for the Iraq war!!! Then he voted against the surge!!!! Then he proposed segregating Iraq into 3 separate areas, one section Sunni, one Shi'ite, and one Kurdish, with a central government in Baghdad!!! What about the areas of Iraq that are diverse?? Do you kick them out of their homes and tell them to move to the part of the country that is segregated to just their kind???? His foreign policy plan spelled two words: CIVIL WAR!!! Then there is Obama's tax policies, tax the job creators (rich) in an already weakened economy and you get more jobs?? That doesn't make sense? First its keep taxes low on families making 300K, then 250K, then 200K, then 150K, now its 120K??? Force struggling small business owners to supply their employees with health care??? They are struggling enough to stay afloat!!! Double the capital gains tax??? Obama is for helping the poor but his brother lives in Kenya off of $12 a year? His aunt lives in public housing? Tony Rezco?? ACORN??? Endorsed by Hamas?? Farrakhan?? Something just isn't adding up, too many red flags!!!

Interesting. Not only have you completely ignored Palin's being-in-bed with big business, but pushing an agenda against gays and other women, her own questionable alliance with religious extremists (which normally I'd not complain about but people like you wish to bring up Wright).

You ignore that Obama is not responsible for internal ACORN affairs, not responsible for things Ayers did in the past, not responsible for who endorses him, not responsible for

I love the "Washington insider" tag, to pretty much annihilate how Biden has served longer in the U.S. Senate than John McCain, by a decade. You also got it wrong that he was in his 20s, because to be a Senator, you must be at least 30. Also love the "Hussein" bit, because as you know, only smart people associate names with terrorism. Or the most retarded.

It's very clear the "red" flags you have on Obama are all selective outrage, and if you had any decent standard of outrage, you'd be outraged at both parties, not just one.

I love how you put it down SRVT.

Vote Barack Obama. Nov. 4th.

It's the clear choice.

Obama is responsible for nothing, not even his own choices (that certain fits the ** model).

Palin is responsible for everything (that goes with the ** motto: Blame is the name of the game).

Simplistic responses please simple minds.

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Thanks, you just made me like her even more. She is really sweet. A true Washington outsider, new face to politics, just what we need in this country.

...I can guarantee she doesn't have those radical associations like Barack Hussein Obama, wow!!! Black liberation theology for 20+ years. Could you imagine!!! Getting your daughters baptized by a guy that says "GD America", "US of KKK of A"!!! That alone is a bad omen.

Then you got his pal Ayers who bombed the US Pentagon, NYC Police Headquarters, dedicated a book to the man that assassinated our wonderful president John F. Kennedy!!! On top of that Barack has no experience!!! He picks a Washington insider as his running mate that has been in the Senate since his 20s!! Biden is supposed to be the foreign policy expert and he voted against the Gulf War to allow Saddam to capture Kuwait, then he realized he was wrong a voted on Kuwait so he took a chance and voted for the Iraq war!!! Then he voted against the surge!!!! Then he proposed segregating Iraq into 3 separate areas, one section Sunni, one Shi'ite, and one Kurdish, with a central government in Baghdad!!! What about the areas of Iraq that are diverse?? Do you kick them out of their homes and tell them to move to the part of the country that is segregated to just their kind???? His foreign policy plan spelled two words: CIVIL WAR!!! Then there is Obama's tax policies, tax the job creators (rich) in an already weakened economy and you get more jobs?? That doesn't make sense? First its keep taxes low on families making 300K, then 250K, then 200K, then 150K, now its 120K??? Force struggling small business owners to supply their employees with health care??? They are struggling enough to stay afloat!!! Double the capital gains tax??? Obama is for helping the poor but his brother lives in Kenya off of $12 a year? His aunt lives in public housing? Tony Rezco?? ACORN??? Endorsed by Hamas?? Farrakhan?? Something just isn't adding up, too many red flags!!!

Interesting. Not only have you completely ignored Palin's being-in-bed with big business, but pushing an agenda against gays and other women, her own questionable alliance with religious extremists (which normally I'd not complain about but people like you wish to bring up Wright).

You ignore that Obama is not responsible for internal ACORN affairs, not responsible for things Ayers did in the past, not responsible for who endorses him, not responsible for

I love the "Washington insider" tag, to pretty much annihilate how Biden has served longer in the U.S. Senate than John McCain, by a decade. You also got it wrong that he was in his 20s, because to be a Senator, you must be at least 30. Also love the "Hussein" bit, because as you know, only smart people associate names with terrorism. Or the most retarded.

It's very clear the "red" flags you have on Obama are all selective outrage, and if you had any decent standard of outrage, you'd be outraged at both parties, not just one.

I love how you put it down SRVT.

Vote Barack Obama. Nov. 4th.

It's the clear choice.

Obama is responsible for nothing, not even his own choices (that certain fits the ** model).

Palin is responsible for everything (that goes with the ** motto: Blame is the name of the game).

Simplistic responses please simple minds.

[jom 4]

AHS

[gen&paul 0]

Palin is sweet so let us put her in office. She is too sweet. That is perhaps the reason her 17 year old had a baby. Give me a break.

He met his dad only once, so because he has a brother by this same man, he should help him...

Obama's mom was 17 and unmarried when she got knocked up with him. That's why he won't go there against Palin.

Whatever you call yourself, thegreatgate or what,you are just a hater and your hatred will not take you anywhere.

You are among the skin head that refuse to look at the issues,instead you are trying to divert the attention of Americans away from the serious situation into character assasinations.

You cannot stop Obama from winning because God is doing a new thing in America.You can continue hating till infinity,but it cant stop the hand of God.So,keep hating

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What about all of McCain's questionable associations? What about the terror-related people he's already choosing to take part in his transition, such as the former lobbyist for Saddam Hussein--SADDAM HUSSEIN--whom he appointed the head of his transition team? From the corruption side: what about Keating? Explain that away, please.

Let's also not forget that Sarah Palin's husband was an active member of a party that advocates Alaska's secession from the union. That's totally cool, right? Her HUSBAND. And she--Sarah Palin--attended their conventions. But that's totally okay, right? Riiiiiiight.

[Marilyn. 340]

What about all of McCain's questionable associations? What about the terror-related people he's already choosing to take part in his transition, such as the former lobbyist for Saddam Hussein--SADDAM HUSSEIN--whom he appointed the head of his transition team? From the corruption side: what about Keating? Explain that away, please.

Let's also not forget that Sarah Palin's husband was an active member of a party that advocates Alaska's secession from the union. That's totally cool, right? Her HUSBAND. And she--Sarah Palin--attended their conventions. But that's totally okay, right? Riiiiiiight.

of course it is..

they are too busy pointing fingers at Obama to notice what is going on in their own backyard...

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Palin is sweet so let us put her in office. She is too sweet. That is perhaps the reason her 17 year old had a baby. Give me a break.

He met his dad only once, so because he has a brother by this same man, he should help him...

Obama's mom was 17 and unmarried when she got knocked up with him. That's why he won't go there against Palin.

Whatever you call yourself, thegreatgate or what,you are just a hater and your hatred will not take you anywhere.

You are among the skin head that refuse to look at the issues,instead you are trying to divert the attention of Americans away from the serious situation into character assasinations.

You cannot stop Obama from winning because God is doing a new thing in America.You can continue hating till infinity,but it cant stop the hand of God.So,keep hating

Gen & Paul--None of my words are in any of the above quotes, not one!!!

But since you specifically named me I will respond to your absurd view that God wants Obama to win

So essentially, what you are saying is God approved of Wright when he took His name in vain? So God is okay with a racist calling the USA the US KKK of A? So God is for abortion on demand? God is for partial birth abortion? God is for stem cell research? God is for high taxes? God is for same sex marriage? God approves of Obama voting against liberating the Iraqi people from a tyrannical dictator that tortured his own people because they were of a different faith?

I have a feeling you haven't read the Holy Bible!! :rofl:

PS: Use spell check if you are incapable of spelling properly.

PSS: See my signature, there is a quote there, I do not believe in fairy tales, I am not a religious nut like you

Edited November 2, 2008 by thegreatgate

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BTW - who would put a man in office that was at the bottom two of his entire class..LOL At least Obama is highly educated.

Highly educated and the #1 most liberal Senator in the country. Votes present on tough issues. Junior Senator. No experience. Never ran anything in his life but a campaign. No business experience. No experience. Wants to spread the wealth around.

Highly educated but very radical and very poor judgment:

Rezco-Convicted felon that purchased the adjacent lot to Obama's multi-million dollar home the exact same day Obama bought his mansion, if Rezco didn't do this, Obama would not have been able to buy his mansion.

Ayers- Stomped on the US flag, former domestic terrorist, dedicated a book to the man that assassinated Kennedy, and Obama worked with this guy and even blurbed one of his books.

Wright- He said GD America, how can you be president when your pastor of 20 years says things like GD America? The (white) government created the AIDS virus to exterminate blacks? US of KKK of America?

With every breath that's in me, I hope and pray that you and everybody like you is so depressed on Wednesday morning that you pack your bags and leave the country.

Because whether it's McCain or Obama, this nation would be better off without hate-mongers like you.

No hate in you.

There's nothing hateful in her post. It's amusing how when you libs can't handle the truth, you call the poster "hateful" or "racist". That gets old and ineffective fast. Yea, the Great Uniter makes you guys kinder, gentler people.

I won't b depressed if Obama wins. It will be fun to spend 4 years (coz that's all he'll get) saying "I told you so!"

I remember a post by you, Virtual Wife, where you said even God doesn't want us to be doormats.

So I exercised my right not to be one. Not to stand by idly and listen to non-sensical rhetoric that slams a preacher for doing something that was, yes, distasteful, but guaranteed as a right to him by the First Amendment. A right that allows churches and their pastors to say what they want, when they want, and to whomever they want, without fear of government reprisal. Would you and yours have it that Jeremiah Wright be hauled away for what he said? Would you haul away the parishioners, for exercising their right to listen? I certainly hope not.

Does thegreatgate believe constitutional rights should only be extended to those with his same beliefs? I don't know. But I know that I have a right granted to me 232 years ago by free-thinking learned men at great risk. And they wrote it down in such a way to allow for ALL of us to say what we think without fear. And to not be beaten down by those who would attempt to silence us.

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Never mind

Edited November 3, 2008 by WHAT_DA_?????

[Ling Ling 22]

So....

Religion Matters...but nobody has a problem with Palin's daughter having a child out of wedlock?

She conceived the child out of wedlock, but the plan is for her to marry the father. As I said before, Obama's mother was also 17 and unwed when she conceived him. Most of you libs would have aborted Obama, as you would prefer that Bristol Palin abort her child and Sarah Palin abort her "inconvenient" down syndrome son. The absolute hypocrisy of your questioning this girl having her child while supporting abortion on demand is pitiful.

I believe the position is supporting freedom of a woman to choose. You keep throwing around this term, "lib". I wouldn't have aborted either child,

but I would've been thorough enough to teach a child about sex education AND the importance of abstinence. Sarah's daughter is lucky she didn't get a life threatening

disease, or have her boyfriend on trial for statutory rape. Pro-Choice is not pro abortion. That's like saying Pro-Life is Pro-Rape or Pro-Children of Incest.

You're just being silly.

So....

Family Matters...but nobody has a problem with McCain leaving his first wife, Carol McCain.

While John McCain was a POW, she took care of their home and their 3 children. But McCain returned from Vietnam in 1973,

his wife had been in a car accident, and didn't look exactly like the swimwear model he married.

By 1980 he abandoned and divorced Carol McCain. One month later, he married Cindy McCain. Rich, beautiful, and 18 years younger.

John McCain has called the breakup of his first marriage his greatest moral failing. It wasn't a good thing, but he and Carol have remained friends. She says, "He's a good guy. We are still friends. He is the best man for president." If she can forgive him, we don't need to. That's between the two of them.

So are you saying that your religion (or any religion) says that divorce is OK as long as your ex-wife forgives you for having an affair and marrying your mistress a month after the divorce?

Cindy McCain...claims to be an only child, but the truth is her father had another daughter. The father left his inheritance to Cindy,

and her half sister Kathleen got nothing. Are John and Cindy McCain taking care of their families?

I didn't take the time to find issues to bash Michelle Obama with, because she's not running for president. But, if we are going after their spouses, I should take the time to dig up dirt on her.

Well, we're talking about the FIRST FAMILY. The family that will represent America. I think it's kind of important that they somehow reflect our values.

You people are the ones that want to take religion to task, but have a double standard for your own agenda.

Again...you're just being silly.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

I believe the position is supporting freedom of a woman to choose. You keep throwing around this term, "lib". I wouldn't have aborted either child,

but I would've been thorough enough to teach a child about sex education AND the importance of abstinence. Sarah's daughter is lucky she didn't get a life threatening

disease, or have her boyfriend on trial for statutory rape. Pro-Choice is not pro abortion. That's like saying Pro-Life is Pro-Rape or Pro-Children of Incest.

You're just being silly.

I made a valid point and you dismiss me as silly. Do you have any kids? If you did, you would know that teaching them about sex education and abstinence isn't going to stop them from having sex. If you think that, then you're being silly. Ignorant people are so quick to criticize Sarah Palin for her daughter's pregnancy. But, if you have raised kids in this morally loose society, and I raised five, it's a lot easier to be empathetic to parents who are where you have been.

I have no patience with obfuscating semantics. Pro-choice is pro-abortion because it incorporates the option of abortion. It doesn't put any limits on abortion, and gives no mind to the interst of the unborn child. I see the responses posted here about pro-abortion to be callous and selfish, and it sickens me. You are one of the first, if not the first I have read, pro-choice person who says you would not abort. Most who have posted to me about it are very cavalier and impersonal about it, insisting that a child in the womb is not human. It's repulsive to me to see that.

I'm not silly. I'm concerned about the ability of some of my fellow citizens to be so cold and calculating about human life.

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I have no patience with obfuscating semantics. Pro-choice is pro-abortion because it incorporates the option of abortion. It doesn't put any limits on abortion, and gives no mind to the interst of the unborn child. I see the responses posted here about pro-abortion to be callous and selfish, and it sickens me. You are one of the first, if not the first I have read, pro-choice person who says you would not abort. Most who have posted to me about it are very cavalier and impersonal about it, insisting that a child in the womb is not human. It's repulsive to me to see that.

Make a topic/poll then if you want to get to the bottom of "how many pro-choice people would say they wouldn't abort". I'm sure you'll be pleasantly surprised. That is, if you really care to get to the bottom of it. I have an educated guess that you'll just ignore it because it negate your argument to score cheap points.

And no, there should be NO limits on abortion because quite frankly if you don't like it, don't have it. You don't have to love abortions to be pro choice. You only need to understand your personal beliefs on a fetus should have no dominion over another person's choice about their body. Clearly you're incapable of the premise of voting for something you disagree with, but realizing that not everyone has to agree with you. A blatant sign of an idealist, not a realist.

Edited November 3, 2008 by SRVT

[Sofiyya 1,687]

So are you saying that your religion (or any religion) says that divorce is OK as long as your ex-wife forgives you for having an affair and marrying your mistress a month after the divorce?

Allah hates divorce, but He allows it with conditions. But, John McCain is not Muslim, so what my faith teaches I will not apply to him. The breakdown of a marriage is not a pleasent thing, but it is best to end it only one person wants to be in it. It is also best to end it before an affair, but that is not always what people do.

I was happily married for 30 years. Insha'allah, I will have the same kind of blessing in my current marriage. In those 30 years, I learned that each union takes its own path. Carol forgave John, and they moved on, remaining friends. Bill Clinton cheated on Hillary; she forgave them and they stayed together, by mutual choice. People in the relationship know more about the dynamics of their union than I do.

There is a wide saying: If you love someone, let them go. If they return, they belong to you. If they don't, they never did. That is the best you can ever do.

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I believe the position is supporting freedom of a woman to choose. You keep throwing around this term, "lib". I wouldn't have aborted either child,

but I would've been thorough enough to teach a child about sex education AND the importance of abstinence. Sarah's daughter is lucky she didn't get a life threatening

disease, or have her boyfriend on trial for statutory rape. Pro-Choice is not pro abortion. That's like saying Pro-Life is Pro-Rape or Pro-Children of Incest.

You're just being silly.

I made a valid point and you dismiss me as silly. Do you have any kids? If you did, you would know that teaching them about sex education and abstinence isn't going to stop them from having sex. If you think that, then you're being silly. Ignorant people are so quick to criticize Sarah Palin for her daughter's pregnancy. But, if you have raised kids in this morally loose society, and I raised five, it's a lot easier to be empathetic to parents who are where you have been.

I have no patience with obfuscating semantics. Pro-choice is pro-abortion because it incorporates the option of abortion. It doesn't put any limits on abortion, and gives no mind to the interst of the unborn child. I see the responses posted here about pro-abortion to be callous and selfish, and it sickens me. You are one of the first, if not the first I have read, pro-choice person who says you would not abort. Most who have posted to me about it are very cavalier and impersonal about it, insisting that a child in the womb is not human. It's repulsive to me to see that.

I'm not silly. I'm concerned about the ability of some of my fellow citizens to be so cold and calculating about human life.

Wow...given your language, choice of words and know-it-all attitude I was truly under the impression that you were 20 years old. No joke. I am genuinely shocked.

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I made a valid point and you dismiss me as silly. Do you have any kids? If you did, you would know that teaching them about sex education and abstinence isn't going to stop them from having sex. If you think that, then you're being silly. Ignorant people are so quick to criticize Sarah Palin for her daughter's pregnancy. But, if you have raised kids in this morally loose society, and I raised five, it's a lot easier to be empathetic to parents who are where you have been.

I have no patience with obfuscating semantics. Pro-choice is pro-abortion because it incorporates the option of abortion. It doesn't put any limits on abortion, and gives no mind to the interst of the unborn child. I see the responses posted here about pro-abortion to be callous and selfish, and it sickens me. You are one of the first, if not the first I have read, pro-choice person who says you would not abort. Most who have posted to me about it are very cavalier and impersonal about it, insisting that a child in the womb is not human. It's repulsive to me to see that.

I'm not silly. I'm concerned about the ability of some of my fellow citizens to be so cold and calculating about human life.

Gov. Palin's position is to ONLY teach abstinence, and NOT sex education. So if I'm silly for wanting children to be exposed to both,

then what does that make Gov. Palin?

I'm really not upset with Gov. Palin for having a daughter who became pregnant. Those sort of things happens.

I'm more upset with ANYONE that goes down one path (teaching abstinence only) is witness in their own household that it doesn't work, and continues down that path.

This type of attitude scares me. I wouldn't want that type of attitude in a government position. Intelligent people know that if something doesn't work, you try something else.

Regarding Pro-Choice, you are incorrect, it DOES put limits on abortion...and there are many people, such as myself whose goal is NOT for it to be used as birth control,

but as a safe and legal method to terminate early pregnancies of the worst possible outcome, such as in the case of rape, incest, or health risks to the mother.

I'm with you all the way that people shouldn't be taking the morning after pill like it's a Tic Tac, or refusing to keep their legs together because they know there's a clinic

that will vacuum them out. That type of attitude sickens me. But the attitude that ALL abortions should be illegal, regardless of the circumstances, sickens me as well.