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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Pakistan
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My parents are travelling to pakistan end of this November,They just got their US passports after becoming citizen and they also have their valid pakistani passport.I think they wont get their NICOP(ID for overseas pakistani) before they leave for pakistan.My question is do they have to use their US passport and get a pakistani visa on it or they can travel to pakistani just on the basis of a valid pakistani passport. :innocent:

Please suggest

Thanks a lot

Mar 4,06 I-130 sent ,rcvd Mar 7,06

Oct 24,08 USC, called to Upgrade

Nov 1,08 Citizenship certificate sent

Jan 3,09 Case upgraded.

Jan 6,09 TOUCHED!!!

Feb 13,09 Approved : )

Feb 20,09 Case # assigned

Mar 2,09 bill paid online,DS-3032 emailed

Mar 4,09 NVC recvd fee

Mar 10,09 AOS sent

Mar 30,09 mailed DS-230

Apr 13,09 CASE COMPLETED(per operators)

Apr 20,09 FINAL REVIEW

Apr 21,09 CASE COMPLETED (per AVR)

Apr 23,09 called:INTERVIEW JUNE 24th

Jun 24,09 AP, 1-3 months

Calling DOS begins,here is what I was told

Jul 7,09 No info @ DOS

Jul 10,09 Case sent to DC-pending

Jul 17,09 Pending

Jul 24,09 Pending,you can call every day for update but the day they call him for passport it means something is up so you get to know it before we do

Jul 31,09 Pending AP

Aug 06,09 Call from USEM requesting to submit passport

Aug 07,09 Every thing looks very good,visa issuance is up to the consulate!!!

Aug 07,09 Passport submitted

Aug 07,09 USEM is requesting applicant's passport :)

Aug 17,09-call 1 Visa issued Aug 3rd,EM recvd passport on 10th but still havent returned it

Aug 17,09-call 2 Case pending some kind of processing (URGHHHHHHHHH NOT AGAIN)

Aug 18,09 call to pick up passport,picked up from AMEX

Sep 26,09 REUNION :)

Posted (edited)

This is what DOS (Dept. of State) says about dual nationals passport use.

"Most U.S. citizens, including dual nationals, must use a U.S. passport to enter and leave the United States. Dual nationals may also be required by the foreign country to use its passport to enter and leave that country."...

SOURCE :thumbs:

Edited by Karin und Otto
Posted

Probably already answered (in practice) about a bazillion times.

The Pakistani (since Pakistan allows true-dual citizenship, where a Pakistani who naturalises to UK, Canada or US can still use a valid Pak passport) can simply use the Pak passport to enter/exit at Pakistan's airports and the US passport to re-enter US.

(my dad at UCalgary had a Lahorite Christian colleague who did the equivalent lots of times)

2005/07/10 I-129F filed for Pras

2005/11/07 I-129F approved, forwarded to NVC--to Chennai Consulate 2005/11/14

2005/12/02 Packet-3 received from Chennai

2005/12/21 Visa Interview Date

2006/04/04 Pras' entry into US at DTW

2006/04/15 Church Wedding at Novi (Detroit suburb), MI

2006/05/01 AOS Packet (I-485/I-131/I-765) filed at Chicago

2006/08/23 AP and EAD approved. Two down, 1.5 to go

2006/10/13 Pras' I-485 interview--APPROVED!

2006/10/27 Pras' conditional GC arrives -- .5 to go (2 yrs to Conditions Removal)

2008/07/21 I-751 (conditions removal) filed

2008/08/22 I-751 biometrics completed

2009/06/18 I-751 approved

2009/07/03 10-year GC received; last 0.5 done!

2009/07/23 Pras files N-400

2009/11/16 My 46TH birthday, Pras N-400 approved

2010/03/18 Pras' swear-in

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As long as the LORD's beside me, I don't care if this road ever ends.

Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Pakistan
Timeline
Posted
Probably already answered (in practice) about a bazillion times.

The Pakistani (since Pakistan allows true-dual citizenship, where a Pakistani who naturalises to UK, Canada or US can still use a valid Pak passport) can simply use the Pak passport to enter/exit at Pakistan's airports and the US passport to re-enter US.

(my dad at UCalgary had a Lahorite Christian colleague who did the equivalent lots of times)

I am confused because I dont know which passport they would stamp at entry/exit.By US law we have to get US passport stamped but it wont have a PAK VISA.Do they only stamp Pakistani passport and US passport is just used to get back here. :unsure:

Mar 4,06 I-130 sent ,rcvd Mar 7,06

Oct 24,08 USC, called to Upgrade

Nov 1,08 Citizenship certificate sent

Jan 3,09 Case upgraded.

Jan 6,09 TOUCHED!!!

Feb 13,09 Approved : )

Feb 20,09 Case # assigned

Mar 2,09 bill paid online,DS-3032 emailed

Mar 4,09 NVC recvd fee

Mar 10,09 AOS sent

Mar 30,09 mailed DS-230

Apr 13,09 CASE COMPLETED(per operators)

Apr 20,09 FINAL REVIEW

Apr 21,09 CASE COMPLETED (per AVR)

Apr 23,09 called:INTERVIEW JUNE 24th

Jun 24,09 AP, 1-3 months

Calling DOS begins,here is what I was told

Jul 7,09 No info @ DOS

Jul 10,09 Case sent to DC-pending

Jul 17,09 Pending

Jul 24,09 Pending,you can call every day for update but the day they call him for passport it means something is up so you get to know it before we do

Jul 31,09 Pending AP

Aug 06,09 Call from USEM requesting to submit passport

Aug 07,09 Every thing looks very good,visa issuance is up to the consulate!!!

Aug 07,09 Passport submitted

Aug 07,09 USEM is requesting applicant's passport :)

Aug 17,09-call 1 Visa issued Aug 3rd,EM recvd passport on 10th but still havent returned it

Aug 17,09-call 2 Case pending some kind of processing (URGHHHHHHHHH NOT AGAIN)

Aug 18,09 call to pick up passport,picked up from AMEX

Sep 26,09 REUNION :)

Posted

I am a lifelong USC with a question on this topic. In situations where a dual citizen is traveling on two passports, are both passports presented at POE? Years ago, I entered the Phillipines on military orders (orders were stamped at entry), and left from Manila on my passport. The passport control officer at the Manila airport did not want to accept the stamped orders as a valid entry. Does passport control question a naturalized USC with stamps in two passports? I am sure this happens all the time, and I wonder how it is dealt with. Thanks

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Travelers - not tourists

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Posted
Probably already answered (in practice) about a bazillion times.

The Pakistani (since Pakistan allows true-dual citizenship, where a Pakistani who naturalises to UK, Canada or US can still use a valid Pak passport) can simply use the Pak passport to enter/exit at Pakistan's airports and the US passport to re-enter US.

(my dad at UCalgary had a Lahorite Christian colleague who did the equivalent lots of times)

I am confused because I dont know which passport they would stamp at entry/exit.By US law we have to get US passport stamped but it wont have a PAK VISA.Do they only stamp Pakistani passport and US passport is just used to get back here. :unsure:
I'll explain it tangentially.

How about using the Pak passport to enter (and leave--when boarding return flight to US) Pakistan, and US passport only at re-entry in US?

Tangential personal experience here: I went on a trip to India in May 2005 shortly after I was naturalised (April 2005--I had to get expedited US passport for re-entry), using two Canadian passports (blank unexpired one, expired one with 10-year visa--Canuck passports are only valid 5 years, and the last trip I had made to India was in 1999 Dec/2000 Jan). Basically, i showed both Canuck passports on landing in Chennai (also on departure from there) and US passport when I landed back in US. In fact, I was specifically told at midflight (stopover at CDG) to do this.

(unfortunately, I cannot remember which passport/s I showed for boarding the flight to India at the US end)

2005/07/10 I-129F filed for Pras

2005/11/07 I-129F approved, forwarded to NVC--to Chennai Consulate 2005/11/14

2005/12/02 Packet-3 received from Chennai

2005/12/21 Visa Interview Date

2006/04/04 Pras' entry into US at DTW

2006/04/15 Church Wedding at Novi (Detroit suburb), MI

2006/05/01 AOS Packet (I-485/I-131/I-765) filed at Chicago

2006/08/23 AP and EAD approved. Two down, 1.5 to go

2006/10/13 Pras' I-485 interview--APPROVED!

2006/10/27 Pras' conditional GC arrives -- .5 to go (2 yrs to Conditions Removal)

2008/07/21 I-751 (conditions removal) filed

2008/08/22 I-751 biometrics completed

2009/06/18 I-751 approved

2009/07/03 10-year GC received; last 0.5 done!

2009/07/23 Pras files N-400

2009/11/16 My 46TH birthday, Pras N-400 approved

2010/03/18 Pras' swear-in

---------------------------------------------------------------------

As long as the LORD's beside me, I don't care if this road ever ends.

Posted
Probably already answered (in practice) about a bazillion times.

The Pakistani (since Pakistan allows true-dual citizenship, where a Pakistani who naturalises to UK, Canada or US can still use a valid Pak passport) can simply use the Pak passport to enter/exit at Pakistan's airports and the US passport to re-enter US.

(my dad at UCalgary had a Lahorite Christian colleague who did the equivalent lots of times)

I am confused because I dont know which passport they would stamp at entry/exit.By US law we have to get US passport stamped but it wont have a PAK VISA.Do they only stamp Pakistani passport and US passport is just used to get back here. :unsure:
I'll explain it tangentially.

How about using the Pak passport to enter (and leave--when boarding return flight to US) Pakistan, and US passport only at re-entry in US?

Tangential personal experience here: I went on a trip to India in May 2005 shortly after I was naturalised (April 2005--I had to get expedited US passport for re-entry), using two Canadian passports (blank unexpired one, expired one with 10-year visa--Canuck passports are only valid 5 years, and the last trip I had made to India was in 1999 Dec/2000 Jan). Basically, i showed both Canuck passports on landing in Chennai (also on departure from there) and US passport when I landed back in US. In fact, I was specifically told at midflight (stopover at CDG) to do this.

(unfortunately, I cannot remember which passport/s I showed for boarding the flight to India at the US end)

What a mess :blink:

3dflags_ukr0001-0001a.gif3dflags_usa0001-0001a.gif

Travelers - not tourists

Friday.gif

Posted
...What a mess :blink:
Anoter detail for you; I'd actually posted on VJ asking this question between the naturalisation interview (March 2005) and swear-in (April 2005).

(true that I had an "option" of sorts, asking for a delay of swear-in until after the trip--but that would be an opening for Sod's Law***, so the swear-in would have either been DURING the scheduled trip or sometime in 2006)

***in Americanese, "Murphy's Law"

2005/07/10 I-129F filed for Pras

2005/11/07 I-129F approved, forwarded to NVC--to Chennai Consulate 2005/11/14

2005/12/02 Packet-3 received from Chennai

2005/12/21 Visa Interview Date

2006/04/04 Pras' entry into US at DTW

2006/04/15 Church Wedding at Novi (Detroit suburb), MI

2006/05/01 AOS Packet (I-485/I-131/I-765) filed at Chicago

2006/08/23 AP and EAD approved. Two down, 1.5 to go

2006/10/13 Pras' I-485 interview--APPROVED!

2006/10/27 Pras' conditional GC arrives -- .5 to go (2 yrs to Conditions Removal)

2008/07/21 I-751 (conditions removal) filed

2008/08/22 I-751 biometrics completed

2009/06/18 I-751 approved

2009/07/03 10-year GC received; last 0.5 done!

2009/07/23 Pras files N-400

2009/11/16 My 46TH birthday, Pras N-400 approved

2010/03/18 Pras' swear-in

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As long as the LORD's beside me, I don't care if this road ever ends.

 
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