Yardies at home and farrin (part 9)

[Islandwoman 0]

It is a black white question for whoever asked. mi know for a fact many of the posters won't answer this honestly and some will get offend...and why? it's like i feel a change when one of the girls who is White reveal themselves or some get jumped on by saying a simple statement. i just hate it when some White women act more superior than their Black men of any race as if they are God's gift to the world. But, I have come to the conclusion that it's often not the womens fault but the fault of the man who make it seem as though they have discovered gold when they meet/marry/courting a White woman. A woman is a woman no matter the color of her skin. And don't get it twisted this is the same for out White Jamaican women.

I have never seen this in action and can't ever imagine doing it, but I guess it probably does happen. Did something happen that you witnessed recently Kimmy that stirred you up? I can't imagine feeling superior over any race - and when I think of the past in regards to slavery, I'm disgusted to be white. But I can't change the past, only the future.

Anthony and I just had this conversation when I was in Jamaica. I know I have talked to JG about this in the past as well. When I'm in Jamaica with him, the guys are hi 5ing him and such, one guy said "black and white - nice colors." But I can feel the daggers being thrown in my back by the woman. On one trip I had an older woman walk up to me and curse me out because I am a white woman and he is a black man, therefore I shouldn't be with him. I was shocked! I'm so much more aware of our differences in JA than in the states.

Hey ladies question for yah..

To my Black Americans and Black Jamaicans..did it matter to you when you found out some of the ladies on here is/has married a Black Jamaican man?

I should have added..Did it make you look at them, treat them differently (White women) when u found out they were White

I hope not....otherwise I'm going to pull my picture.

[Marlita 0]

Well I'd like to join the topic, but gotta run. The Mister want to watch sum duppy show.

NIght all.

[SupportOAFJF 0]

It is a black white question for whoever asked. mi know for a fact many of the posters won't answer this honestly and some will get offend...and why? it's like i feel a change when one of the girls who is White reveal themselves or some get jumped on by saying a simple statement. i just hate it when some White women act more superior than their Black men of any race as if they are God's gift to the world. But, I have come to the conclusion that it's often not the womens fault but the fault of the man who make it seem as though they have discovered gold when they meet/marry/courting a White woman. A woman is a woman no matter the color of her skin. And don't get it twisted this is the same for out White Jamaican women.

I have never seen this in action and can't ever imagine doing it, but I guess it probably does happen. Did something happen that you witnessed recently Kimmy that stirred you up? I can't imagine feeling superior over any race - and when I think of the past in regards to slavery, I'm disgusted to be white. But I can't change the past, only the future.

Anthony and I just had this conversation when I was in Jamaica. I know I have talked to JG about this in the past as well. When I'm in Jamaica with him, the guys are hi 5ing him and such, one guy said "black and white - nice colors." But I can feel the daggers being thrown in my back by the woman. On one trip I had an older woman walk up to me and curse me out because I am a white woman and he is a black man, therefore I shouldn't be with him. I was shocked! I'm so much more aware of our differences in JA than in the states.

Hey ladies question for yah..

To my Black Americans and Black Jamaicans..did it matter to you when you found out some of the ladies on here is/has married a Black Jamaican man?

I should have added..Did it make you look at them, treat them differently (White women) when u found out they were White

I hope not....otherwise I'm going to pull my picture.

perfect example of what i'm sayin

U know why island..not cause ur white but cause ur not Jamaican..ur viewed as an outsider

Well I'd like to join the topic, but gotta run. The Mister want to watch sum duppy show.

NIght all.

aww, have fun

[*JG* 2]

His mom called yesterday to say she got a court appearance ticket in his name. They caught them stealing water again and took it all out. Now, they want him to pay for the water they were stealing. Keep in mind, he's been gone for 2.5 years. They sure are on the ball. His mom said she didn't know who he was and that she was renting the place.

Now, we are wondering if by the time we end up going back, they will have some sort of warrent out for his arrest. Wouldn't that be fun at the airport??????

What a mess!! I hope it works out for the best.

Wait Andre does ? they still had the stuff in his name ?

That is what we are now hearing. We weren't prepared for that at all.

Wonder when they'll put out the warrent for the light bill next?

[SupportOAFJF 0]

O JG i really hope this isn't so..

[Islandwoman 0]

I get whats shess saying though. I think some take in the culture without the language. I take in the language as much as I can, cause we all know that Patois is a HUGE part of the culture and for me its just something me and Evan would like to speak in our household and to future children to help him preserve his culture. But I think others may do other things that help preserve the culture/

I find that the more I push myself to learn about his culture, the more understanding we have of each other. Alot of times he will do something or say something that means one thing in my culture, but something different in his. Like for instance the other day could've been 2 years ago...

[SupportOAFJF 0]

I get whats shess saying though. I think some take in the culture without the language. I take in the language as much as I can, cause we all know that Patois is a HUGE part of the culture and for me its just something me and Evan would like to speak in our household and to future children to help him preserve his culture. But I think others may do other things that help preserve the culture/

I find that the more I push myself to learn about his culture, the more understanding we have of each other. Alot of times he will do something or say something that means one thing in my culture, but something different in his. Like for instance the other day could've been 2 years ago...

Kashi and I had this issue when he 1st came it has gotten much much better

[*JG* 2]

Hey ladies question for yah..

To my Black Americans and Black Jamaicans..did it matter to you when you found out some of the ladies on here is/has married a Black Jamaican man?

I am by no means in this category...just curious though, is this a black-white question?

And I wonder how would it matter?? Isn't that what we are all here for? Just curious.......not stirring the pot!

who cares if you stir the pot everyone else does. We are here cause of a thread named Yardies, so some thing it's only Jamaicans in here...the root is some ppl change or treat others differently cause we are all not black in here.

When I found out Yaads was White i laughed so hard..only b/c she was up to di time wid har patois

Same for Lita when i found out she was not Jamaican born same reaction just cause she up pon di lingo

some don't care to embrace the culture of Jamaica, the land from which they have found men who completes their circle.

You aren't judging all on the lingo are you in your culture comment?

not sure if I understand your comment JG

if I think you mean what you mean..I am the 1st to admit that I didn't think anyone who didn't spend time with Jamaicans or in Jamaica for long periods gave a rats on understanding the patois. And I have come to find out Yaads did alot of time in JA and Lita hung out with them

It has happened some time ago and lately too

You know I am not fond of written patios. I don't hang out on the story threads much, although I do think Jawi is an incredible writer and should probably publish some books. Reading patois gives me a headache and I've made it no secret on here, whether I was bashed for it or not. It is what it is.

That being said, I completely understand the spoken patios. And, I speak it back to Andre and whoever else we are on the phone with from time to time. I'm even teaching a friend of mine some of it because we are trying to plan a trip for both our families next year.

All I was asking is if you were judging keeping the culture by the fact of if someone writes in patois on here or not. If you were, I was going to say what I said above and say that, that could be shortsighted and not fair to base an assumption on, at least in my case.

Now, don't take that as bashing one bit. I do the same thing in a way when I read the foods people eat or plan to eat once the SO gets to the US. We eat pretty much only JA foods cause my husband cooks almost exclusively. I've caught myself making some of those keeping the culture assumptions myself. I've slapped myself on the hand more times then I can count when I do that cause it isn't fair. Whatever works for someone, works. Who am I to think something so negative?

See where I was going with that?

[*JG* 2]

Oh, crude, I'm going to start crying now. End of Titanic and Rose just figured out Jack is dead. I have a love/hate relationship with this movie.

We were watching that too JG! I cry each and every time I watch it. Another show that makes me bawl in Extreme Home Makeover Edition. I love watching the new houses, but I bawl like a baby when they move that bus!

Hee hee....you big baby!

Same here, Island. Same here.

hey yardie crew! so only a couple hours left and me and the family are on the way to jamaica....i just wanted to say thank you so much for all the advice and posts that i read up on.....i may not chat alot and it is very difficult to do so with the little ones but i read up a bit and take the advice i see......we have our interview on thursday and then i return home on friday praying for a quick visa delivery.....i hope everyone has a fabulous week and best of luck on other interviews going on that are upcoming......ok now i have to go finish packing.......ttyl

Good luck, Yankee.

[morantbaygirl 0]

Morant see it's different in JA when i was frowing up i knew no color except "browning" hehee everyone was just Jamaican chiney, syrian, indians, japanese, white..until i got to the US.

do you notice u said the race Morant, do you know most ppl classify all blacks together no matter their country, do you know that some do not even know that we have white ppl in JA i mean born and breed..German ancestors...i have so such best friend

hey yardie crew! so only a couple hours left and me and the family are on the way to jamaica....i just wanted to say thank you so much for all the advice and posts that i read up on.....i may not chat alot and it is very difficult to do so with the little ones but i read up a bit and take the advice i see......we have our interview on thursday and then i return home on friday praying for a quick visa delivery.....i hope everyone has a fabulous week and best of luck on other interviews going on that are upcoming......ok now i have to go finish packing.......ttyl

good luck to yah Yankee..go knock 'em out

I understand but it took education and for me to be open to understand. Now my mom tells me she don't no who's child I am because I am so culturally diversed. I will go any where, try almost any food. I love different cultures I am amazed at the different beliefs in people. Just the other day my husband was talking about food rules ####### I said what are food rules he said that certain things are suppose to be eaten and certain things are not . He told my son who also love different cultures that if he tried alligator meat he would try human meat becuase alligator meat's not in the food rules . . I love reading the laugauge and often fool pt into thinking i am Jamaican. We are culturely diversed at work also so I have friends that are Costa Rican and Guyaneese and they also tell me I am not the usual American. I learn so much from all of u guys . I even know what my husband is saying when he doesn't want me to know . I will never tell him I learn alot that way. I asked him the other day if he would take me to a strip club in Jamaica he asked how u know of such a thing(thanks HONEY). So U guys keep u th echatter and I will eventually pic it up.

[Islandwoman 0]

Hey ladies I just got home from work and let's stir up this conversation . I grew up in the South where Prejudice still remains and unchecked most of the time.

Because no matter what color we are, we are all sisters.

(I'm trying to follow Kimmy's rules so I'm cutting your quote.) You ain't kidding about the south!! I had my first "lesson" in racism in the south as a kid. I had a great-aunt who lived in Georgia and we would spend 2 weeks with her during the year. I remember the first time I was called a white cracker - I had no idea what it meant. And I remember she was driving up to the Piggly Wiggy grocery store, and as we drove right by I asked her why we were not stopping and she told me that was the one the blacks went to and we wouldn't go to that one. I had to ask my mother for an explanation on that but I remember losing alot of respect for that woman that day....

Amen Sister!!

[SupportOAFJF 0]

umm, not really JG

And ur not the only one that doesn't like to read patois some Jamaicans can't either u know why..it is not taught in schools it's not our language but rather English. So, i cannot say ur not embrassing the culture by u not reading patois.

[Islandwoman 0]

hey yardie crew! so only a couple hours left and me and the family are on the way to jamaica....i just wanted to say thank you so much for all the advice and posts that i read up on.....i may not chat alot and it is very difficult to do so with the little ones but i read up a bit and take the advice i see......we have our interview on thursday and then i return home on friday praying for a quick visa delivery.....i hope everyone has a fabulous week and best of luck on other interviews going on that are upcoming......ok now i have to go finish packing.......ttyl

Good luck Yankeesgirl and safe travels!! I was just thinking about you. Richard is going to be so excited to meet those babies.

And bring NY home some sunshine in a bottle. B)

[Mrs. Palmer 5]

I get whats shess saying though. I think some take in the culture without the language. I take in the language as much as I can, cause we all know that Patois is a HUGE part of the culture and for me its just something me and Evan would like to speak in our household and to future children to help him preserve his culture. But I think others may do other things that help preserve the culture/

I find that the more I push myself to learn about his culture, the more understanding we have of each other. Alot of times he will do something or say something that means one thing in my culture, but something different in his. Like for instance the other day could've been 2 years ago...

Kashi and I had this issue when he 1st came it has gotten much much better

OMG! Why does Belly say this all the time in conversation..."T, remember what I said to you the other day?" I'm always like "depends on what day you're talking about..." He's usually referencing a conversation from months ago! And he never gives me hints, just expects me to pick from a random conversation months ago I honestly thought it was just him...

[*JG* 2]

O JG i really hope this isn't so..

Me too.

I'm sitting here thinking, if she just got the notice in October of 2008, what would happen if were to step on the island in say June of 2009? If it were here, I would be worried the sheriff would be looking for him to haul him in and force him to take care of it. I'm just not sure what would happen in JA. I certainly don't want him hauled away at the airport cause his passport signaled some red flag.

Hey ladies I just got home from work and let's stir up this conversation . I grew up in the South where Prejudice still remains and unchecked most of the time.

Because no matter what color we are, we are all sisters.

(I'm trying to follow Kimmy's rules so I'm cutting your quote.) You ain't kidding about the south!! I had my first "lesson" in racism in the south as a kid. I had a great-aunt who lived in Georgia and we would spend 2 weeks with her during the year. I remember the first time I was called a white cracker - I had no idea what it meant. And I remember she was driving up to the Piggly Wiggy grocery store, and as we drove right by I asked her why we were not stopping and she told me that was the one the blacks went to and we wouldn't go to that one. I had to ask my mother for an explanation on that but I remember losing alot of respect for that woman that day....

Amen Sister!!

I have to say that I am always glad I don't live in the south when I hear something like this. I just don't see it in the midwest.