Beware, political topic somewhat

[charmac7 4]

We have had those laws here in New Brunswick for a few years now...in the begining the law stated that Bars and Restaurants must have an enclosed separate room for smokers.....then they banned somoking in public places completely. PEI has already started covering up the tobacco products in stores, which will start here in NB very soon. All tobacco products must be covered by a drape so they are not visible to the consumer.

So Ontario and Quebec are only playing catch-up with the Maritimes at this point.

Char

[Jenn! 918]

I think a business should be able to choose whether or not they allow smoking though. And non-smokers could choose to not go to that establishment.

[girl 37 7]

I think a business should be able to choose whether or not they allow smoking though. And non-smokers could choose to not go to that establishment.

And workers? It's tough when you hear about non-smoking bar & restaurant staff dying from lung cancer.

I think it's a double standard to protect workers in industrial settings from exposure to carcinogens like asbestos but not to protect service industry workers from second-hand smoke.

[KarenCee 3]

Sorry I was confused. I saw "I can't smoke in my own car? Or my own home?", and missed the "What's next?" before it.

The law is as I had originally thought.

Yanno...smoking in cars where there are children riding should be illegal too. Second hand smoke causes all sorts of health issues for these little ones...and do they have any rights where this is concerned???? Second hand smoke is far more dangerous to these little ones than anyone can begin to imagine. Y'know...I don't care who smokes...it's their decision. My fiancé smokes. BUT...he is respectful of me and our daughter. I am ALL for a smoking ban in public places! I have asthma (never smoked a day in my life) and our daughter has a heart condition. Smoke makes my asthma kick up. Why should me and others like me have to avoid places we'd like to go into because of smokers?

Time for a good b*tchfest indeed!

[incanada1234 0]

I can't stand most smokers and their disregard for non-smokers breathing in their toxic fumes, so I love this law. I wish all smokers would be banned from Ontario period.

[Jenn! 918]

I can't stand most smokers

Nice.

[ceriserose 1]

We have had those laws here in New Brunswick for a few years now...in the begining the law stated that Bars and Restaurants must have an enclosed separate room for smokers.....then they banned somoking in public places completely. PEI has already started covering up the tobacco products in stores, which will start here in NB very soon. All tobacco products must be covered by a drape so they are not visible to the consumer.

So Ontario and Quebec are only playing catch-up with the Maritimes at this point.

Char

Same with BC...a lot of squawking when it first went in, but now everyone seems to have settled out.

[hockeygal 0]

It's not that I don't agree with the littering issue and such. I do agree...it's not right for smokers to just throw their butts on the ground. It's also not right for coffee drinkers to throw Timmy's cups on the sidewalk. Or gum chewers to throw their gum on the ground.

Absolutely. However, I have to say that I see about 100 - 1 cigs to coffee cups on the ground. I honestly don't think a lot of smokers think about it when they put it out on the ground. They most likely put their garbage in the garbage can, but from the amount of butts on the street I think it doesn't occur to most that it is litter and it piles up.

A huge amount of states have banned smoking in public places... california pretty much has banned smoking everywhere but in your home and car... the entire northeast has pretty much banned any kind of indoor public smoking.

This is actually what I was thinking of when I brought up the littering thing - California. When I heard that it was banned there, my first thought was "oh well, if they threw their ciggarettes in the garbage, maybe they wouldn't have been banned from smoking on the street!

I sound like a crazy litter control freak don't I? I am!

However, I do feel for smokers finding themselves more and more limited, but I hope it encourages them to quit.

[hockeygal 0]

Actually I came on to say something and got distracted...

I don't actually mind smokers on outdoor patios that aren't partially covered.

[cmartyn 0]

If we threw the cigs in the garbage then there would be a lot of garbage fires :-)

lol.. too much.. I think its great they are putting more restrictions in place. I thought a total ban would be the way to go but they haven't done that. I think smoking, in general, is now an antisocial act for people who are just starting.

Long time smokers are of course just hopelessly addicted and even with a total ban will find a way to import them.

I cant wait till the holier than thou crowd zooms in on the next anti social behaviour. I wonder what it will be?

[reddiablo 0]

YOU WANT TO SMOKE

STAY HOME AND SUFFER

I DO NOT WANT IT IN MY LUNGS

SIMPLE AS THAT.

RED hated second hand smoke for 50 years!!

[incanada1234 0]

YOU WANT TO SMOKE

STAY HOME AND SUFFER

I DO NOT WANT IT IN MY LUNGS

SIMPLE AS THAT.

RED hated second hand smoke for 50 years!!

I can't stand most smokers

Nice.

It's so true.

[PsychoKat 0]

What bothers me about this is that it is the latest jump on the bandwagon craze, it's fashionable to ban smoking and dis smokers it's the in thing, everyone is doing it, all in the name of breathing and respiratory health, and asthma is heavy ammo to use in the cause.

But actions speak louder than words, and I've seen those actions boldly show that it's more about keeping up with the latest craze than it is about health.

I work for a very large Fortune 100 company, last year they banned smoking on company property supposedly to protect their employee's health, citing asthma and other lung diseases.

I myself have asthma, while being around cigarette smoke has very little effect on me, aromatic organic solvents can prove to be life threatening, it's one of my main triggers. After someone with a sensitivity to hair spray's and colognes requested employees' be asked not to spray those around the office was told they wouldn't do that, but it was ok to ask their co-workers to do their grooming in the washroom, I wrote in and stating just how deadly exposure to nail polish or removers could be for me and explained that people need to be aware of this, saying surely a company and co-workers so concerned and understanding of respiratory health we have seen in the acceptance of the smoking ban, would be compassionate about this, and requested it be published iin the next issue of the news. It never has been and they never responded to me (btw, one of the girls in my office is vhemently anti-smoking citing all the dangers and throwing out the effects of smoking on asthma as ammo although she herself does not have asthma, yet no matter how many times I've asked her to be considerate and explained how dangerous it is for me she still does her nails at her desk)

A couple of weeks after I sent my letter in I had hoped would be shared, the company changed the rules to accomodate smokers after the city banned smoking outdoors at business, at that location smokers are instead allowed to smoke in their cars. And although they would not print my letter, they had no problem printing a letter from someone who just didn't like that they coudl smoke in their cars, saying "can't we do something about this!"

If it's really about health why is something so clearly documented and severe ignored? God forbid they annoy those girls who just have to touch up their nails while working? Protesting about smoking though is fashionable and chic!

[girl 37 7]

I don't follow your argument at all. I support banning perfumes, etc. from the workplace if it bothers people, but at the same time I don't like being subjected to second hand smoke because it makes it difficult to breathe, it bothers my eyes, it makes my clothes stink, etc. Is that 'jumping on a bandwagon'?

[babybunny 2]

smoking is NASTY.. I am not a smoker

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but having said that at my company there are smokers rights!!!!!!

you can smoke in doors..

and you can also have your own SMOKERS break room.