Request for Evidence??

[cookiee 0]

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What service center did you apply to ?

[Lappa 0]

If I am in your position I will follow what "J& D" said. Just collect all your tax returns and your husband's, Make copis of utility bills including phone bills and D/L, Ask your husband to add your name with his checking account and ask the teller to print a statment, collect everything that shows either your name or your husband's name on it. Send them without further delay. If you make an INFOPASS, probably they will not tell you what you can send because they don't know your life situations. Every individual have different kind of docs to prove the relationship. If you don't have life insurance, forget it because you don't have time to apply for that. Even if you included some old papers that belongs to before the AOS interview, thats okay. Act accordingly.

[Dakine 26]

Thanks for the replies!

Ya, I've been corrected on the life insurance part.

Any other documents we can provide showing good faith of marriage?

Have friends and relatives shoot you some snail mails addressed to both of you. I guess they could even send Xmas cards.

You ever write yourself a letter and mail it to yourself? I guess it wouldn't be fraud if you wrote it to your mate and said how much you love them!

Just send in the envelope with both names and the same address.

[cherr1980 1]

Hey there...the most important thing is to submitt something else!

You said you submit JOINT SAVINGS, what about the checking? Do you have 401K or a fund or a retirement fund (and you dn't need to be old for that, you must start young...) you must put who would be a beneficiary? do you have one? If so, then check out who is the beneficiary and print that out and send it.

What about health insurance? Dental? Vision?? short desability?

What about credit cards? nothing in both names? Gas station cards? nop? Macy's? heheh

Do you go to a club or you have a membership to something together?

I think would be easier to know from you what you have in both names. Have you thought on a living will? accidents DO happen...have you need a power of attorney before in which your spouse is the trustee?

At your work do you have to have like who is the beneficiary of your health insurance? and other benefits? what about emergency contacts on file?

Remember that even is NOT practical for you, you are the one who must demostrate your game in THEIR RULES, and their rules states "all in both names = true marriage". Sorry but that's the reality when you deal with USCIS.

Good luck!

Thanks for the replies!

Ya, I've been corrected on the life insurance part.

Any other documents we can provide showing good faith of marriage?

[raindrop 0]

We don't have a joint checking or 401K. Only savings.

Our health insurance is separate because our place of employment.

We only have 1 joint CC and that we sent. I think that's messed up that they would force you to get more "debt" for proof. Or spend more money out of pocket for policies, etc...!

We don't have any department stores, gas cards... either.

I would worry about signing on to anything new as it would more than likely raise a red flag. Don't you guys think the same?

So can anyone tell me why it is so hard for us who are all doing this thing lawfully and by THEIR rules? Yet there are SOOOO many illegal people living amongst us, who have jobs, get welfare, are buying new homes, new cars..... And the state seems to cater to them even though NONE of them have filed any paperwork, etc.... It's so unjust!!!!!!

[payxibka 10,045]

We don't have a joint checking or 401K. Only savings.

Our health insurance is separate because our place of employment.

We only have 1 joint CC and that we sent. I think that's messed up that they would force you to get more "debt" for proof. Or spend more money out of pocket for policies, etc...!

We don't have any department stores, gas cards... either.

I would worry about signing on to anything new as it would more than likely raise a red flag. Don't you guys think the same?

So can anyone tell me why it is so hard for us who are all doing this thing lawfully and by THEIR rules? Yet there are SOOOO many illegal people living amongst us, who have jobs, get welfare, are buying new homes, new cars..... And the state seems to cater to them even though NONE of them have filed any paperwork, etc.... It's so unjust!!!!!!

having joint tax returns is not messed up as it could be or could have been a viable option

having joint credit does not mean you have to incur "debt", it simply menas you have an open account jointly liable

having a joint checking account is simple and viable option...

having a will with each other named as beneficiary is simple

You mention why is it so hard... the reason seems to be that some of the more common things that occur to a married couple in "comingling" there lives, for reasons only known to you, have not done....

[Cassie 8]

Basically, your problem is that you haven't given them enough evidence of the co-mingling of your assets and liabilities over the length of your marriage (not just the past two years). This is probably the most common RFE request I have seen here in the Removal of Conditions process. They want to see that you are making moves to mingle your resources together like typical married couples do. They do not expect you to run out and get a million dollars in life insurance, or go rack up debt on a credit card to prove that you are legitimate, but they do expect to see you do things together. Like if you buy a car, that the car and car insurance are in both your names, and so on.

Mistake number one is not submitting your tax returns at all. So submit them, it doesn't matter that they aren't a joint filing. They show that you both live at the same address.

We wrote our wills listing each other as beneficiaries about a month or two before submitting our I-751, this was not a problem. Do you have life insurance, investments, or anything that lists you as each others' beneficiaries? Do you have any paperwork at your work that lists each other as emergency contacts?

You say that you have a joint savings account. Ok, what you have to show is how both of you are funding that account. If that means cross-referencing withdrawals from your separate chequing accounts and corresponding deposits in the joint savings account, then show it. Write them a letter stating that you have set up your finances in this way, and prove it.

You will probably need to include some letters of support from people that have known you for the length of your marriage and can attest to the fact that you both entered into it in good faith.

The 401(k) will not be joint. But there is a place to indicate the beneficiary of the account if something was to happen to the holder. Use that, or make that happen if you haven't done that, and submit it.

There are lots of options you have that have been suggested in this thread, and in other threads. You may have to think outside of the box, and you may have to go ahead and get some things you never planned on (like life insurance), but it will be worth it.

[raindrop 0]

But doesn't applying for something NOW raise red flags???

[raindrop 0]

We've only been married for 2 1/2 years.

We haven't done any major purchases or filed for any loans.

The problem with the returns, is that mine was still listed at my old address, my parents address, but that is still a very valid address that I sent an explanation as well as bills that are still being sent there. It is also the address we had on our initial forms, since we did not have our apartment at that time. Is that still ok?

We don't have anything showing one another as beneficiaries. These aren't things we've thought of.

We submitted 2 affidavits proving our marriage of good faith. But we are asking a neighbor in our apartment complex to write another, since he see's us daily as well and has somewhat known us since we've moved in.

We don't have the finances to afford life insurance at this time.

[*JG* 2]

Basically, your problem is that you haven't given them enough evidence of the co-mingling of your assets and liabilities over the length of your marriage (not just the past two years). This is probably the most common RFE request I have seen here in the Removal of Conditions process. They want to see that you are making moves to mingle your resources together like typical married couples do. They do not expect you to run out and get a million dollars in life insurance, or go rack up debt on a credit card to prove that you are legitimate, but they do expect to see you do things together. Like if you buy a car, that the car and car insurance are in both your names, and so on.

Mistake number one is not submitting your tax returns at all. So submit them, it doesn't matter that they aren't a joint filing. They show that you both live at the same address.

We wrote our wills listing each other as beneficiaries about a month or two before submitting our I-751, this was not a problem. Do you have life insurance, investments, or anything that lists you as each others' beneficiaries? Do you have any paperwork at your work that lists each other as emergency contacts?

You say that you have a joint savings account. Ok, what you have to show is how both of you are funding that account. If that means cross-referencing withdrawals from your separate chequing accounts and corresponding deposits in the joint savings account, then show it. Write them a letter stating that you have set up your finances in this way, and prove it.

You will probably need to include some letters of support from people that have known you for the length of your marriage and can attest to the fact that you both entered into it in good faith.

The 401(k) will not be joint. But there is a place to indicate the beneficiary of the account if something was to happen to the holder. Use that, or make that happen if you haven't done that, and submit it.

There are lots of options you have that have been suggested in this thread, and in other threads. You may have to think outside of the box, and you may have to go ahead and get some things you never planned on (like life insurance), but it will be worth it.

I agree here.

No joint tax returns, no joint checking accounts, and few joint misc. things are hurting you here.

Do you have a life insurance policy through work? Who is the beneficiary?

What about through the bank? Some offer very small policies as well. If so, who is the beneficiary?

You can search the net and print out some advanced directives and/or wills of sorts and make each other the beneficiary and/or power of attorney.

Do you have any sort of stocks/bonds/401K/anything of that sort which is either joint or names the other as beneficiary?

Then, you need to bombard them with things addressed to one or the other or both of you at the same address.

You can add names to your bills. Why aren't they all joint?

You probably do need to open a small joint checking account.

You havent' bought anything during your marriage together?

I have to agree with refiling the taxes as joint.

I would get some affadavits from all kinds of people who have had extensive contact with the two of you.

Have you taken any trips together where you could produce plane tickets? And pictures.

Life insurance is extremely important, especially if your SO is not in the position to fully take care of themselves financially so soon after moving to the US.

I know you have just lived your life and thought being together was enough proof. Unfortunately, that is not the case here. This is one time when you really do have to prove joint things and lots of them. It just is the way it is.

You can sit here and complain about how you are sorry you didn't go into debt just to prove things to them and all that. In this case, that will backfire on you. Think long and hard on how to fix this situation. It's all you really can do at this point.

[raindrop 0]

We did bombard them, or so we thought, with things with our names jointly and individually at the same address!

Most bills, such as DWP, Phone don't usually get signed up as joint.

No, we haven't bought anything major since we've been married. Why is that such a big surprise? We're not millionaires. We live comfortably, but that's it. The biggest purchases would be trips to visit his family and other random trips. We sent boarding passes, itineraries, photos....

And just I'm not here to complain! I'm here to get help and advice. Geez!!

[sambridh 0]

We did bombard them, or so we thought, with things with our names jointly and individually at the same address!

Most bills, such as DWP, Phone don't usually get signed up as joint.

No, we haven't bought anything major since we've been married. Why is that such a big surprise? We're not millionaires. We live comfortably, but that's it. The biggest purchases would be trips to visit his family and other random trips. We sent boarding passes, itineraries, photos....

And just I'm not here to complain! I'm here to get help and advice. Geez!!

It is With which Service Center...CSC or VSC?????

[*JG* 2]

We did bombard them, or so we thought, with things with our names jointly and individually at the same address!

Most bills, such as DWP, Phone don't usually get signed up as joint.

No, we haven't bought anything major since we've been married. Why is that such a big surprise? We're not millionaires. We live comfortably, but that's it. The biggest purchases would be trips to visit his family and other random trips. We sent boarding passes, itineraries, photos....

And just I'm not here to complain! I'm here to get help and advice. Geez!!

I wasn't yelling at you. I was just saying, complaining in this situation is going to get you absolutely nowhere. Fix it.

It's not a big surprise. It was a question. My husband and I have not bought anything big either.

Our phone is joint. I changed everything over to joint when he got his SSN.

[raindrop 0]

I already said, it's USCIC. CA.

Sorry for the misinterp. All we are is stressed and worried at these points. Easily to mistake.

I didn't know I could change things over to joint. Duh me! I will look into getting these done.

Thanks!

[ohiobuck 0]

Besides what everyone says, if I was you I'd not mess with filing an amended tax return for 2007, but in January file a joint return for your 2008 so you are ready for your interview at that time. But the main thing you should do is to have at least three people/friends write a letter confirming your relationship. They should give their contact information/address/phone and it would be best to get them notorized. Besides bills with both your names, send any cards letters you received with both of your names. Examples: inventations to someone elses wedding/party/Christmas cards and etc. that you received. If you don't have any, get someone to send them to you. You could get them to mail you Halloween/Thanksgiving cards as well as Christmas cards don't forget. But make sure both of your names is on the envelop with your address. If you have anything you've received from your employers showing your address, you could use the two employers using your same address as proof. I used cover pages in front of each of my proof I sent in, just to make it simple for them to understand your proof. Opening up a joint checking account, besides just a savings would be good as well. Also make sure all your bills are going to your new address, expecially if you used that as proof. In short just keep your eyes out on everything around your house you already have as backup that you could us and even more look at everything in the mail box as your proof you just didn't think about.

Also if you have auto/rental/Condo/house insurance make sure you provide with both of your names. If you own a car, put both of your names on at least one of your vehicles, to show joint relationship. Also if you have traveled together, us the receipts/tickets/reservations and etc. proof of that trip for both of you at the same time as proof of your relationship. In short keep thinking and I am sure you will come up with a bunch of stuff and none of them have to cost you anything, except for time to copy/notorize/and get organized.

Good Luck, I am sure if you just plug away you will come up with enough evidence and like the others say, make the appointment and they can help you come up with ideals of what they would like to see as well.

Paula