Believers in Obama

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Claim: "Official legislative documents released this week show that Obama in fact presided over a committee hearing where "neutrality clause" language – identical to the federal language – was added to the Illinois version of the Born Alive Infant Protection Act. After voting in support of the "neutrality clause," Obama then joined fellow Democrats to oppose the bill, killing it by a vote of 6-4, even after the addition of the 'neutrality clause.' The bill Obama killed is nearly identical to the federal version of the Born Alive Infant Protection Act signed by President Bush in 2002 – legislation Obama has said he supports." [susan B. Anthony List press release, 8/12/08]

FACT: There are MAJOR differences in state and federal bills, including the fact that the federal bill included a"Neutrality Clause:"

I don't get it. ROFL.

It looks like the focus is on this neutrality clause that is modified to match that of the federal bill. However, there are still more differences between the State and the Federal as this quote have been shown.

I threw that in as bait, sure that a pro-abortion poster would sort it out to use as a point of opposition to the overabundance of supporting evidence that Obama didn't want to protect these babies so as to protect abortion on demand.

I'm not done yet.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

so since you can decide what happens to my body does that mean I can just come over and chop off one of your limbs or something since that would be my decision about your body?

Only if you have reason to believe (you only have to believe it, you don't have to actually know it) that by cutting off her limb you will be saving the life of another organic life form of some kind.

What if that limb could be used to save the life of someone who got their arm caught in a combine accident (combine as farm equipment)?

No, that would be the rough equivalent of stem cell research and we all know stem cell research is wrong and immoral.

[rebeccajo 14]

Obama has a 100 percent pro-choice voting record according to NARAL Pro-Choice America; his rating from the National Right to Life Committee is zero.

Gotta love him!

[Amby 490]

so since you can decide what happens to my body does that mean I can just come over and chop off one of your limbs or something since that would be my decision about your body?

Only if you have reason to believe (you only have to believe it, you don't have to actually know it) that by cutting off her limb you will be saving the life of another organic life form of some kind.

What if that limb could be used to save the life of someone who got their arm caught in a combine accident (combine as farm equipment)?

No, that would be the rough equivalent of stem cell research and we all know stem cell research is wrong and immoral.

this is good...

[rebeccajo 14]

so since you can decide what happens to my body does that mean I can just come over and chop off one of your limbs or something since that would be my decision about your body?

Only if you have reason to believe (you only have to believe it, you don't have to actually know it) that by cutting off her limb you will be saving the life of another organic life form of some kind.

What if that limb could be used to save the life of someone who got their arm caught in a combine accident (combine as farm equipment)?

No, that would be the rough equivalent of stem cell research and we all know stem cell research is wrong and immoral.

But that man in the farm accident is a viable human being........

[Heracles 417]

One thing I have to say is that I believe in Obama but I certainly do not believe in everyone else part of the Democrat party in office.

The next four years are either going to make America or cement its future as a 2nd World South American, poverty stricken, spread the wealth clone.

Edited October 27, 2008 by Aficionado

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

so since you can decide what happens to my body does that mean I can just come over and chop off one of your limbs or something since that would be my decision about your body?

Only if you have reason to believe (you only have to believe it, you don't have to actually know it) that by cutting off her limb you will be saving the life of another organic life form of some kind.

What if that limb could be used to save the life of someone who got their arm caught in a combine accident (combine as farm equipment)?

No, that would be the rough equivalent of stem cell research and we all know stem cell research is wrong and immoral.

But that man in the farm accident is a viable human being........

He was, but then he lost his arm.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

so since you can decide what happens to my body does that mean I can just come over and chop off one of your limbs or something since that would be my decision about your body?

Only if you have reason to believe (you only have to believe it, you don't have to actually know it) that by cutting off her limb you will be saving the life of another organic life form of some kind.

Not a stretch - If you believe in abortion on demand, chopping off limbs of an unwilling baby is one of the things you support.

Voting for Obama because of what you BELIEVE he will do for you rather than knowing what he will do for you . . .

I seriously know more about what this man believes than most, if not all, here who support him.

[rebeccajo 14]

so since you can decide what happens to my body does that mean I can just come over and chop off one of your limbs or something since that would be my decision about your body?

Only if you have reason to believe (you only have to believe it, you don't have to actually know it) that by cutting off her limb you will be saving the life of another organic life form of some kind.

What if that limb could be used to save the life of someone who got their arm caught in a combine accident (combine as farm equipment)?

No, that would be the rough equivalent of stem cell research and we all know stem cell research is wrong and immoral.

But that man in the farm accident is a viable human being........

He was, but then he lost his arm.

Ah. Gotcha.

He's probably gonna end up drawing his SSI and will no longer be a contributing tax payer. Instead he will be a teet-sucker.

I can see now why we shouldn't be worried over him.

[Amby 490]

so since you can decide what happens to my body does that mean I can just come over and chop off one of your limbs or something since that would be my decision about your body?

Only if you have reason to believe (you only have to believe it, you don't have to actually know it) that by cutting off her limb you will be saving the life of another organic life form of some kind.

Not a stretch - If you believe in abortion on demand, chopping off limbs of an unwilling baby is one of the things you support.

Voting for Obama because of what you BELIEVE he will do for you rather than knowing what he will do for you . . .

I seriously know more about what this man believes than most, if not all, here who support him.

please enlighten us

[rebeccajo 14]

so since you can decide what happens to my body does that mean I can just come over and chop off one of your limbs or something since that would be my decision about your body?

Only if you have reason to believe (you only have to believe it, you don't have to actually know it) that by cutting off her limb you will be saving the life of another organic life form of some kind.

Not a stretch - If you believe in abortion on demand, chopping off limbs of an unwilling baby is one of the things you support.

Voting for Obama because of what you BELIEVE he will do for you rather than knowing what he will do for you . . .

I seriously know more about what this man believes than most, if not all, here who support him.

What Obama believes about abortion won't affect me at all. I'm beyond my child bearing years.

It does concern me though when radical theologists try to lay down an idealogy that could affect the women who come after me. All women. Not just the ones who believe in a particular God.

[Amby 490]

I'm an advocate for vaccuum/suction in the uterus

[NickD 203]

You will never be able to truly understand a person who chooses to have an abortion unless you've been in their shoes and had to make the choice. It's their body and their choice. Unless you want them to be able to decide what happens with your body then you can't argue with me.

The baby being aborted has a body, too, and it's being killed without a choice due to a self-serving mythology that it's:

1. not really alive;

2. only a clump of cells.

You're probably glad your mother didn't abort you.

Babies who survive abortion are NOT a clump of cells, neither are they dead until they re left to die without medical intervention, which OBAMA opposed.

<devils advocate>

You earn your money but your body is a gift from God (and therefore subject to God's laws).

</devils advocate>

Children are also a gift from God.

Exactly who is doing the killing? Is Obama forcing this woman to kill her own baby? Exactly what are you proposing, you have this innate ability to make statements with zero common sense, logic, suppositions, but not spelling out the detail.

Are you suggesting that if this woman begs for an abortion, has one, that Obama or any other leader kill her too?

Frankly, you do not know your history, a major reason for the 5-4 supreme court decision as narrow as it was, was to save women's life from back alley abortions. And are abortions really an issue? Happen to live very close to an extremely large medical complex and know for a fact zero abortions are performed there. There are no laws that force a medical institution to perform abortions. Even dated a couple of women that had messed up abortions, broke down in complete tears and confessed they couldn't have children. But perhaps that isn't enough for you, we should try them for murder as well.

You are very strong on your opinions, just wonder if you are making a living at it. But if you want an issue, drop abortions and become anti-war, totally disgusted we have a leadership that used lies for an imperialistic action of this once great country, this is not an America I want to continuer. War in history never has solved anything, but always money for war, very little for the good of people. This trend has got to end.

[tammy2688 1]

~Obama for 2008~

What will you do when he wins the election? What will you post at that time? LOL

I'm hoping she'll go away.

[tammy2688 1]

You will never be able to truly understand a person who chooses to have an abortion unless you've been in their shoes and had to make the choice. It's their body and their choice. Unless you want them to be able to decide what happens with your body then you can't argue with me.

The baby being aborted has a body, too, and it's being killed without a choice due to a self-serving mythology that it's:

1. not really alive;

2. only a clump of cells.

You're probably glad your mother didn't abort you.

Babies who survive abortion are NOT a clump of cells, neither are they dead until they re left to die without medical intervention, which OBAMA opposed.

<devils advocate>

You earn your money but your body is a gift from God (and therefore subject to God's laws).

</devils advocate>

Children are also a gift from God.

Exactly who is doing the killing? Is Obama forcing this woman to kill her own baby? Exactly what are you proposing, you have this innate ability to make statements with zero common sense, logic, suppositions, but not spelling out the detail.

Are you suggesting that if this woman begs for an abortion, has one, that Obama or any other leader kill her too?

Frankly, you do not know your history, a major reason for the 5-4 supreme court decision as narrow as it was, was to save women's life from back alley abortions. And are abortions really an issue? Happen to live very close to an extremely large medical complex and know for a fact zero abortions are performed there. There are no laws that force a medical institution to perform abortions. Even dated a couple of women that had messed up abortions, broke down in complete tears and confessed they couldn't have children. But perhaps that isn't enough for you, we should try them for murder as well.

You are very strong on your opinions, just wonder if you are making a living at it. But if you want an issue, drop abortions and become anti-war, totally disgusted we have a leadership that used lies for an imperialistic action of this once great country, this is not an America I want to continuer. War in history never has solved anything, but always money for war, very little for the good of people. This trend has got to end.

NickD - right on!