Primary Evidence -- Passport Question??

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I have another friend that got engaged the same time I did in Turkey. He is a Naturalized Citizen and he never renounced his citizenship in Turkey. Therefore he still has a Turkish Passport which he used to enter and exit Turkey. There are no stamps in his American Passport to show that he visited Turkey.

Is this going to be a problem? He won't have this evidence to backup his claim that he was in Turkey in the past 2 years. Has anyone been approved without this evidence?

David

[payxibka 10,045]

Nothing says the infoprmation MUSt be in a US passport, as long as he can provide sufficient evidence that it is in fact his passport (I assume there is some "markings" in his Turkish passport).... It is OK to provide explanation as to what the evidence is and why...

Edited October 24, 2008 by payxibka

[Mononoke28 135]

Well, he has to have something, boarding passes? pictures? e-mails? hotel receipts? Anything? If not, then his Turkish passport has to have some kind of marking showing that he entered Turkey within the past 2 years. Most American passports are not longer stamped as they are scanned and that's all they do, but his Turkish passport should have an entry and exit stamp.

Diana

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Yes he does have other evidence however not all of it can be considered primary evidence or maybe not even strong enough that he won't get a RFE to require something more substantial. I don't think he kept the boarding passes (I didn't) and I'm not sure if he still has his itinerary. Since he is from Turkey we stayed at his family's house, so no hotel receipts. The only other thing that he could show, other than pictures which are secondary evidence, is his bank statements with all the credit card charges that he made.

My specific question was about not having the American Passport with Visa and Entrance and Exit stamps. Has there been people who were approved without the American Passport as evidence? Has anyone used a different country passport as evidence? I'm only asking because if this is going to be a problem it would be easier for him to fly back to Turkey before filing. His fiancee would love him if he did.

BTW. When you are trying to prove American Citizenship I don't think it is wise to send a document that proves you are a Citizen somewhere else. However we might just file his paperwork and if he gets an RFE then submit the Turkish Passport then as evidence.

David

[payxibka 10,045]

BTW. When you are trying to prove American Citizenship I don't think it is wise to send a document that proves you are a Citizen somewhere else. However we might just file his paperwork and if he gets an RFE then submit the Turkish Passport then as evidence.

David

Simply BS.... Many people have DUAL citizenship.... You are overthinking this...........

Besides you are not using the Turkish passport to prove citizenship... you are using it to demonstrate meeting face to face... He would provide the naturalization certificate or US passport for citizenship....

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Simply BS.... Many people have DUAL citizenship.... You are overthinking this...........

Actually I was looking for someone to say no you can't use it, so I can tell him that I wouldn't be able to help him until he went back to Turkey for another trip.

Thanks... I know the US doesn't require renouncing your old citizenship, but during the oath you state that you will. I guess the USCIS doesn't care if you did or not.

David

[KimandRuss 0]

I agree with Pay.

What 'he' needs to show is proof that he travelled and/or been with his fiance in person in the last 2 years...not that he's denounced his Country of Birth... so, it seems the passport stamps in his Turkish passport would serve as the best example of that. With dual citizenship he should be using that passport to enter and leave anyway.

As far as secondary evidence goes, you can sometimes request a copy of the itinerary even years later from the travel agent, online booking system, airline...etc used. Letters from family he stayed with may also help.

good luck