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John McCain, who has harshly criticized the idea of sitting down with dictators without pre-conditions, appears to have done just that. In 1985, McCain traveled to Chile for a friendly meeting with Chile's military ruler, General Augusto Pinochet, one of the world's most notorious violators of human rights credited with killing more than 3,000 civilians and jailing tens of thousands of others.

The private meeting between McCain and dictator Pinochet has gone previously un-reported anywhere.

According to a declassified U.S. Embassy cable about the meeting secured by The Huffington Post, McCain described the meeting with Pinochet "as friendly and at times warm, but noted that Pinochet does seem obsessed with the threat of communism." McCain, a member of the House Foreign Affairs Committee at the time, made no public or private statements critical of the dictatorship, nor did he meet with members of the democratic opposition, as far as could be determined from a thorough check of U.S. and Chilean newspaper records and interviews with top opposition leaders.

At the time of the meeting, in the late afternoon of December 30, the U.S. Justice Department was seeking the extradition of two close Pinochet associates for an act of terrorism in Washington DC, the 1976 assassination of former ambassador to the US and former Foreign Minister Orlando Letelier. The car bombing on Sheridan Circle in the U.S. capital was widely described at the time as the most egregious act of international terrorism perpetrated on U.S. soil by a foreign power.

At the time of McCain's meeting with Pinochet, Chile's democratic opposition was desperately seeking support from democratic leaders around the world in an attempt to pressure Pinochet to allow a return to democracy and force a peaceful end to the dictatorship, already in its 12th year. Other U.S. congressional leaders who visited Chile made public statements against the dictatorship and in support of a return to democracy, at times becoming the target of violent pro-Pinochet demonstrations.

Senator Edward Kennedy arrived only 12 days after McCain in a highly public show of support for democracy. Demonstrators pelted his entourage with eggs and blocked the road from the airport, so that the Senator had to be transported by helicopter to the city, where he met with Catholic church and human rights leaders and large groups of opposition activists.

Mark Schneider, a foreign policy aide and former State Department human rights official who organized Kennedy's trip, said he had no idea McCain had been there only days before. "It would be very surprising and disappointing if Senator McCain went to Chile to meet with a dictator and did not forcefully demand a return to democracy and then to publicly call for a return to democracy," Schneider said.

McCain's visit with Pinochet took place at a moment when the Chilean strongman held virtually unrestricted dictatorial power and those involved in public, democratic opposition were exposed to great risk.

McCain's presence in Chile was apparently kept as quiet as possible. He and his wife Cindy arrived December 27 and traveled immediately to the scenic Puyehue area of southern Chile to spend several days as the guest of a prominent Pinochet backer, Marco Cariola, who later was elected senator for the conservative UDI party.

The trip was arranged by Chile's ambassador to the United States, Hernan Felipe Errazuriz. According to a contemporary government document obtained from Chile, Errazuriz arranged for a special government liaison to help McCain while in Chile for the "strictly private" visit, and described him as "one of the conservative congressmen who is closest to our embassy."

Errazuriz also arranged the invitation for the McCains to stay at the farm of his wealthy friend, Marco Cariola, according to Cariola, who did not know McCain previously. The McCains spent the three and a half days fishing for salmon and trout and riding horses. The area is one of Chile's most beautiful tourist attractions, with dozens of crystal clear lakes and rivers surrounded by luxurious estates such as the Cariola farm where the McCains were staying.

On December 30, McCain traveled back to Santiago for a 5 pm meeting with dictator Pinochet, followed by a meeting with Admiral Jose Toribio Merino, a member of the country's ruling military junta.

McCain's meeting with Pinochet in 1985 are described in a U.S. embassy cable, based on McCain's debriefing with embassy officials:

"Most of his 30-minute meeting with the president, at which foreign minister [Jaime] Del Valle and a ministry staff member were present, was spent in discussing the dangers of communism, a subject about which the president seems obsessed. The President described Chile's recent history in the fight against communism and displayed considerable pride in the fact that the communist menace had been defeated in Chile. The President stressed that Chile had stood alone in this battle, and complained that United States Foreign Policy had left them stranded. The congressman added that talking to Pinochet was somewhat similar to talking with the head of the John Birch Society."

Other than to describe the warmth of the encounter, the cable does not contain any account of what McCain said to Pinochet. There is no indication that the subject of human rights or return to democracy was raised with Pinochet. At this time in history, Pinochet was overtly ostracized by most world democratic leaders because of his refusal to move toward a restoration of democratic, civilian rule.

A second declassified U.S. diplomatic cable refers to a letter from then-U.S. Ambassador Harry Barnes giving further detail of McCain's meeting with Pinochet.

From his meeting with junta member Merino, however, McCain passed on an tidbit of political intelligence that the embassy found useful. "The most interesting part of the conversation, according to the congressman, was Merino's statement that he and other members of the Junta had recently told Pinochet that he should not expect any support from the junta if he should decide to be a candidate for president in 1989."

In fact, three years later Pinochet was defeated in a plebiscite in which he was the only candidate, and free elections a year later restored democratic government. A healthy list of U.S. congressmen traveled to Chile in support of the transition to democracy, including Republican Senator Richard Lugar. McCain, by then a first term senator, did not return to Chile.

In addition to the Chilean document and the U.S. cable cited above, at least four other declassified documents refer to McCain's meeting with Pinochet and his interest in Chile.

McCain campaign press office said no one was available to comment on the story.

Former ambassador Errazuriz, reached by phone, said repeatedly "it is not true" that McCain met with Pinochet, that he would have known about it if it had, and that the state Department cable was possibly a fabrication.

On September 11, 1973 Army General Pinochet led a bloody coup that overthrew the democratically elected government of President Salvador Allende. The four-man military junta that seized power bombed the presidential palace, padlocked the congress, outlawed all political activity and actively persecuted its opponents. Pinochet remained in power until 1990 and in 2006 he was charged with 36 counts of kidnapping, 23 counts of torture and one count of murder. He was spared a trial for health reasons and died at age 91 in December 2006.

(Esta nota se publica simultaneamente en CIPER y en el Huffington Post en Estados Unidos.)

Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-dinges/...c_b_137422.html

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What are you talking about AJ? Pinochet is a hero to the Right Wing!!!

Must be why those smelly liberals in places like Spain have repeatedly indicted him for murder against their citizens.

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What are you talking about AJ? Pinochet is a hero to the Right Wing!!!

Must be why those smelly liberals in places like Spain have repeatedly indicted him for murder against their citizens.

Spain is an enemy, isn't it?

It's all starting to add up!

In an interview Monday with Radio Caracol WSUA 1260AM, a Spanish-language station from Miami, the Republican presidential nominee was asked whether he would "be willing to invite President Jose Luis Zapatero to the White House."

...

The Arizona senator responded to Radio Caracol's question with ... his talking point: "I can assure you I will establish closer relations with our friends and I will stand up to those who want to do harm to the United States of America."

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Unfortunately, Americans actually know more about Spain's (figurehead) king Juan Carlos better than its president--and JC is in good standing with US (and probably in even better standing amongst many Venezuelans) after he told Venezuelan chopf#ck Chavez to STFU.

Also, the specific about "preconditions" only applies to those dictators with whom the US doesn't have pre-existing diplo relations (a little fact that huffpost didn't bother to check).

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:no:

Unfortunately, Americans actually know more about Spain's (figurehead) king Juan Carlos better than its president--and JC is in good standing with US (and probably in even better standing amongst many Venezuelans) after he told Venezuelan chopf#ck Chavez to STFU.

Also, the specific about "preconditions" only applies to those dictators with whom the US doesn't have pre-existing diplo relations (a little fact that huffpost didn't bother to check).

El Rey is only the constitutional monarch of Spain. Meaning its symbolic. As per his own urging. Zapatero speaks for Spain's government. Meaning if McCain has no idea about an allied government, then he really doesn't belong in diplomacy.

Yes, Chavez needs to STFU too. But he is no known murderer like Pinochet.

Wishing you ten-fold that which you wish upon all others.

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Unfortunately, Americans actually know more about Spain's (figurehead) king Juan Carlos better than its president--and JC is in good standing with US (and probably in even better standing amongst many Venezuelans) after he told Venezuelan chopf#ck Chavez to STFU.

Also, the specific about "preconditions" only applies to those dictators with whom the US doesn't have pre-existing diplo relations (a little fact that huffpost didn't bother to check).

El Rey is only the constitutional monarch of Spain. Meaning its symbolic. As per his own urging. Zapatero speaks for Spain's government. Meaning if McCain has no idea about an allied government, then he really doesn't belong in diplomacy.

Yes, Chavez needs to STFU too. But he is no known murderer like Pinochet.

If you want to be picky....

  • You're wrong on that one--Chavez is basically like Prachanda, a Naxalite-become-ruler; by definition, involves murders
  • And if you really want to do "retroactive disqalifications", then every presidential candidate since Harding gets disqualified by that

2005/07/10 I-129F filed for Pras

2005/11/07 I-129F approved, forwarded to NVC--to Chennai Consulate 2005/11/14

2005/12/02 Packet-3 received from Chennai

2005/12/21 Visa Interview Date

2006/04/04 Pras' entry into US at DTW

2006/04/15 Church Wedding at Novi (Detroit suburb), MI

2006/05/01 AOS Packet (I-485/I-131/I-765) filed at Chicago

2006/08/23 AP and EAD approved. Two down, 1.5 to go

2006/10/13 Pras' I-485 interview--APPROVED!

2006/10/27 Pras' conditional GC arrives -- .5 to go (2 yrs to Conditions Removal)

2008/07/21 I-751 (conditions removal) filed

2008/08/22 I-751 biometrics completed

2009/06/18 I-751 approved

2009/07/03 10-year GC received; last 0.5 done!

2009/07/23 Pras files N-400

2009/11/16 My 46TH birthday, Pras N-400 approved

2010/03/18 Pras' swear-in

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:no:

Unfortunately, Americans actually know more about Spain's (figurehead) king Juan Carlos better than its president--and JC is in good standing with US (and probably in even better standing amongst many Venezuelans) after he told Venezuelan chopf#ck Chavez to STFU.

Also, the specific about "preconditions" only applies to those dictators with whom the US doesn't have pre-existing diplo relations (a little fact that huffpost didn't bother to check).

El Rey is only the constitutional monarch of Spain. Meaning its symbolic. As per his own urging. Zapatero speaks for Spain's government. Meaning if McCain has no idea about an allied government, then he really doesn't belong in diplomacy.

Yes, Chavez needs to STFU too. But he is no known murderer like Pinochet.

If you want to be picky....
  • You're wrong on that one--Chavez is basically like Prachanda, a Naxalite-become-ruler; by definition, involves murders
  • And if you really want to do "retroactive disqalifications", then every presidential candidate since Harding gets disqualified by that

Other than one dubiously obtained and reconstructed hard drive with a simple MS Word series of documents linking Chavez with Colombia's FARC, there is no ' evidence' proving Chavez is what you claim he is.

However, you're right. Lets not get picky about information.

Wishing you ten-fold that which you wish upon all others.

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What are you talking about AJ? Pinochet is a hero to the Right Wing!!!

Must be why those smelly liberals in places like Spain have repeatedly indicted him for murder against their citizens.

Spain is an enemy, isn't it?

It's all starting to add up!

In an interview Monday with Radio Caracol WSUA 1260AM, a Spanish-language station from Miami, the Republican presidential nominee was asked whether he would "be willing to invite President Jose Luis Zapatero to the White House."

...

The Arizona senator responded to Radio Caracol's question with ... his talking point: "I can assure you I will establish closer relations with our friends and I will stand up to those who want to do harm to the United States of America."

he probably forgot that he met pinochet. easy mistake to make when you're well into your retirement years.

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AJ why are you posting all this political garbage on here? this is a visa forum...not an open mike to air all your woes. get back to the point of this forum and stop spreading garbage. :bonk:

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AJ why are you posting all this political garbage on here? this is a visa forum...not an open mike to air all your woes. get back to the point of this forum and stop spreading garbage. :bonk:

this is the off topic forum..........he's on topic. you're not.

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