Need clarification on something, regarding...PORK!

[SimoAndYvette 0]

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Sorry...the topic is probably making you feel like that smiley!!

Okay....so it is about 55 minutes until Friday....and thought I would begin a topic of conversation about ... PORK!

Yes, that is correct:

This little piggy went to market.....

There once were 3 little pigs.....

So tonight my husband asked something of me. Keep in mind, he has only asked 2 other things...both being very important to him: 1) I not drink alcoholic beverages (so now I just smell them..LOL) and 2) I do not swim in a public pool where men would be at.

Now #3...please do not eat pork anymore, or at the VERY least do not cook it in the house. I asked for an explanation and this is what I got:

1. It is in the Qoran

2. It is against his culture

3. Pigs eat bad things

4. When he thinks of me and the kids eating it, it makes him feel "far" from us

Okay, so I somewhat understand it, but my brain works like this....I NEED DETAIL; I do not do well with vague.

In the last year, I have already cut our pork consumption down by 80%... I have been substituting turkey for SOOO many things (turkey bacon, turkey ham, etc....). OH did I mention I am half Spanish?? I was basically raised teething on a Pork Chop bone! Seriously! We use pork as our main meat. By 7 I was making tortillas, Green Chili and Beans! I can quite honestly have no problem with not cooking it anymore...but giving up Green Chili ( I tried using beef...not even close!)?? I just do not know guys!

This is silly right?? That I am even asking this??

So...my question is this: Why is Pork such taboo in Islam and as a person from Arabic descent? Again, NEED details ... in order to get it around my brain.

Thank You!!

Edited October 24, 2008 by SimoAndYvette

[sara535 15]

Its forbidden specifically in the Quran.

We dont have any pork products in our home - I am from a southern family so I grew up with ham, bacon, and/or salt pork in EVERYTHING. But actually I really dont miss it at all, and less so over time when I learn more about commercial hog farming. YOu can find decent enough substitutions for most recipes if you search around a bit.

[nunyab 0]

hehe mashallah... you always know how to phrase things that make me smile. It is in the Quran don't do it... I don't for me some things i take the "do as I say" just fine but i do know you and i know others out there that will have more information than i will. Take care and remember I to am Spainish and i haven't had pork in over a year, should've seen my face when i realized no more Hawaiian style pizzas.

[bhajishah 4]

Pork has parasites in the meat. the excess hormones in pork will contributes to tumors, cysts, fibroids and man boobies

[SimoAndYvette 0]

You do know me Rajaa....I even got the "Habibi..this is not an order" ** deep penetrating gaze...total sincerity...basically the "you-will-only-break-my-heart-if-you-do" look**

Have you ever had a really good bowl of Green Chili? The kind that just gets better after being in the 'fridge a day or two...smothered over Rellenos....eggs....a burrito...just about anything??? UGGHH....this is tough!

Really?? He had to mention the I feel "far" from you?? Someone please take the knife out of my chest!!

Seriously need some details....then I can look at this subjectively not objectively (as she pushes her glasses up on her nose ~ quite librarian-like)

What to do..what to do...what to do???

hehe mashallah... you always know how to phrase things that make me smile. It is in the Quran don't do it... I don't for me some things i take the "do as I say" just fine but i do know you and i know others out there that will have more information than i will. Take care and remember I to am Spainish and i haven't had pork in over a year, should've seen my face when i realized no more Hawaiian style pizzas.

[SimoAndYvette 0]

OMG cindishah!!!!!

I Love laughing like that!!!!!

parasites...tumors...cysts...fibroids.....and man boobies ~ WELL!! you did it..I am actually speechless!

If it weren't for the MENA group...I would NEVER laugh!

Pork has parasites in the meat. the excess hormones in pork will contributes to tumors, cysts, fibroids and man boobies

Edited October 24, 2008 by SimoAndYvette

[maggieNomar 0]

I have cut out pork for the most part. We were never big pork eaters anyways. I do an occaisional slice of pepperoni pizza, but as pointed out, it isn't the healthiest meat and was forbidden even in old testament. I know some christians who won't eat pork for that reason. But it's full of fat, so there is another reason for you. Have you tried the turkey ham, turkey bacon ect that I think Sara suggested?

Rajaa: Are you able to eat those products?

[nunyab 0]

I have cut out pork for the most part. We were never big pork eaters anyways. I do an occaisional slice of pepperoni pizza, but as pointed out, it isn't the healthiest meat and was forbidden even in old testament. I know some christians who won't eat pork for that reason. But it's full of fat, so there is another reason for you. Have you tried the turkey ham, turkey bacon ect that I think Sara suggested?

Rajaa: Are you able to eat those products?

Maggie sure can and your dads delightful mac and cheese and count me in on g-mom's party perhaps only one kiddo though... sorry didn't call back my bad.

Pork has parasites in the meat. the excess hormones in pork will contributes to tumors, cysts, fibroids and man boobies

did someone go there and say "man boobies" dang so would that have made what i do have bigger??? oh well too late now

[ksa2usa 0]

Pork is indeed haram, or forbidden in Islam. I can understand your hubby not wanting you to cook it in the home because it may contaminate his food, but I don't understand why he cares if you eat it. If you are not a Muslim, then you are not required (islamicly) to follow the same rules as he is. But to each his own I guess.

On a side note...many people who come to the USA don't realize that there are pork by-products in many, many things that you wouldn't assume. Since becoming a Muslim a few years back, I've become an avid label reader at the supermarket. Keep you eye out, for hubby's sake, for anything containing gelatin in particular.

Also, it is true that pig meat is very high in fat, and can contain dangerous parasites, even if it's cooked all the way thru. I've never heard of it contributing to "man boobies" but at least that's hillarious.

[livelife 0]

if your husband really loves you,he would respect you too;what your culture is and what you prefer to eat..being married is also respecting each others diffferences,just don't cook pig for him and if you want to eat it,then don't ask him to eat with you,ask him to eat his falafel instead..lol...

[Der Bücherwurm 1]

Any meat, not just pork can contain parasites, fat, etc. So can vegetables or anything else for that matter.

I think it's kind of silly to follow every little thing in a book written by men 1000yrs ago.

My SO and all his Iranian friends like pork. As soon as they get out of Iran the first things they want to do is whatever is forbidden in Iran. So whenever they visit I have to stock up on booze and pork and make sure we go bar hopping and to rock concerts.

Me personally, I'm not and never will be muslim but I still don't like the taste of pork. It's ok in sausage but pork chops make me want to gag. I think the look/texture of pork resembles people flesh too much.

And I don't think you should have to give up anything just because of your husband. Is he an insecure child? He's choosing to marry an American and move to the states so it is his responsibility to adapt to a new country and culture. If you start giving up one, two or three things you like now, then he will expect you to give up 20 things and before you know it your whole identity/personality is gone. If it's a muslim from his own country he wanted then that's what he should have married. I will never understand these girls that sacrifice their whole identity for a controlling little fraction of a man.

[NancyB 0]

As salaamu alaikum

I wonder how some people think it's in their right to insult Islam now and Muslims to take the high road and not say anything.

The Quran was not written by "a man" and the question was "is pork haraam?" and"IT IS". I mean we can say what we want as far as "our husbands respecting us, and it's true a couple should respect each other. Go to a Jew, and ask if it's okay to eat pork. Go to the bible and see if it's written about not eaten pork. It's written in the bible, yet, people insist on insulting Muslims for us noting eating pork.

However, how about knowing what you are getting into when you marry a Muslim. How about thinking pass our private parts( oh he is so cute! oh my Habibi!!) think about the future, think about your future children, it's ridicious how much people insult us Muslims in our faces now.

I really refrain from speaking a lot though; because these men have to think carefully too before getting married. If you are a Muslim why should this be problem for you what a non muslim wife does? If you are so worried about these things(eating pork) why marry a non-muslim and then cry if she doesn't follow the tenets of Islam? Why cry over what she does? I always shake my head at men like that. I'm so sick of these men coming into the masjids crying "my wife won't become Muslim" I don't feel sorry for them. Truly your religion is your choice, and no one can force you to become anything you don't want.

I just feel sorry for women who get into marriages with these kinds of men.

This is a warning to women getting involved with Muslim men, "think about what you are getting into seriously, because what they will accept now(being younger) will one day change. Don't heed the warning or heed it.

Pork, Alcohol, is haraam no questions about it. They have beef pepperoni in all major supermarkets so you can add this to your pizza.

Its forbidden specifically in the Quran.

We dont have any pork products in our home - I am from a southern family so I grew up with ham, bacon, and/or salt pork in EVERYTHING. But actually I really dont miss it at all, and less so over time when I learn more about commercial hog farming. YOu can find decent enough substitutions for most recipes if you search around a bit.

Cute baby Ma' sha Allah!

[~Jackie~ 30]

We don't eat pork because that is what the Quran says. We don't pick and choose which parts of the book to follow and which to leave out.

My ex never had pork a day in his life and he got moobies as big as mine

Jackie

just one thing tho to the OP,,,your man has his visa right? How in the world did you get this far together and not know your pork days are over? I think you are in for one shock of a year. Good luck.

Edited October 24, 2008 by just_Jackie

[MrsAmera 41]

There are numerous things that contain pork products - you really have to read everything. This was something my husband and I were very clear on but more importantly my family was clear with. I too grew up eating lots and lots of pork and my family still does, but they understand that we do not and now for the most part respect that. This is especially important with what they do or do not give to our children. My oldest know knows that he shouldn't eat pork but of course the 2 yr has no clue. As for how you deal with it, well you just do. There are plenty of substitutes for most things, be it chicken, turkey or beef or tofu. I agree that not all of it tastes the same as the real thing but I guess that's just a sacrifice. (P.S. Trader Joe's has tofu chorizo that is pretty spot on - except is the crumbly kind). You may also want to find out if your husband will require to eat only halal meat (i.e. not your run of the mill meat products) because this can also be a big issue if you don't live near any halal stores.

[Mommy2ZaidnSalma 11]

Him saying he would "feel far from you" well no offense I am not muslim but pork friggin grosses me out and If my spouse was eating it and I saw him doing it I would more than likely vomit and wouldnt want to get close to him til i knew his body was rid of it. It makes me shudder..

You wanna stop eating pork??? Go to youtube.com and find a video called Pork Chop and Coca Cola or something to that affect. let me know how you feel about a slab of pork after watching it

we live with my father and brother and after learning from myself and husband about why we dont eat it, neither my father or brother no longer eat pork

eta: Amera ive even found beef chorizo in Kroger

You also have to be careful with things like marshmallows, anything cooked with lard, etc, as those all contain gelatin

Edited October 24, 2008 by ZaidsMommy