Third K1 Visa

[rebeccajo 14]

I'm not changing the subject. How am I changing the subject? Why do I need to 'support' an opinion?

Subject being this - slapping labels on people - whether it be about nationality, or weight, or gender - or whatever - makes the subject of the label feel defensive. It makes people feel bad.

You yourself just got yourself in enough of a stew about my generality that you had to go ask your 'expert'.

So I think I happen to be right on subject.

The real subject.

You thought your husband's personal biases made me feel bad? Sorry, no. I have to have some measure of respect for the source before I would even consider feeling bad about something they said about me personally, let alone their thoughts on American men in general. I have no idea who you are; why would I concern myself with your opinion of me?

If American men actually ARE the most selfish pigs in the world, you are welcome to trumpet your proof from the rooftops, as far as I am concerned. You can slap any label on anyone you like, so long as it has some basis in reality. Regrettably, I forgot to check your location before setting the bar that high.

I asked my colleague in order to illustrate a point that, unfortunately, seems to have gone completely over your head. You then inexplicably changed the subject to my feelings, which remain undamaged, I assure you. I fact, I only thought to ask him because he happened to poke his head into my office as I was finishing up my earlier post. He also asked me why I was wasting time replying. I actually do feel a bit bad about that, as I obviously should have listened to his advice.

But you didn't, did you?

[toma1 10]

I think Steve55 was saying American women generally, without reference to race, but yes, American. Funny stuff anyway.

Good point.

[Trompe le Monde 1,107]

but how do we know Craigslist ad woman was not an immigrant? Maybe she initially came on a K-1 visa duped into thinking $50,000 was a lot of money in Manhattan.

I honestly don't think Europeans have thought that much about the husband qualities of American men, unless they happen to be married to one. If they give negative qualities to Americans (and many do) they apply equally to both genders without the special exemptions some men like to claim for themselves. From my years in London I know that American men do get singled out for:

1. Drinking piss weak beer

2. Playing rugby with shoulder pads

3. Tub-thumping "without us you'd be speaking German" when everyone knows that a. America had not yet joined the war during the Battle of Britain and b. we really should be thanking the Russians. But they just blame our poor education system.

[Brad and Vika 129]

but how do we know Craigslist ad woman was not an immigrant? Maybe she initially came on a K-1 visa duped into thinking $50,000 was a lot of money in Manhattan.

I honestly don't think Europeans have thought that much about the husband qualities of American men, unless they happen to be married to one. If they give negative qualities to Americans (and many do) they apply equally to both genders without the special exemptions some men like to claim for themselves. From my years in London I know that American men do get singled out for:

1. Drinking piss weak beer

2. Playing rugby with shoulder pads

3. Tub-thumping "without us you'd be speaking German" when everyone knows that a. America had not yet joined the war during the Battle of Britain and b. we really should be thanking the Russians. But they just blame our poor education system.

I can testify that point #3 is also a mystery to Russians

[Trompe le Monde 1,107]

lol - for some reason I must use this as an excuse to post this clip

[toma1 10]

but how do we know Craigslist ad woman was not an immigrant? Maybe she initially came on a K-1 visa duped into thinking $50,000 was a lot of money in Manhattan.

Haha... I ALMOST said that, but decided that it was a stretch.... but it's certainly possible.

I honestly don't think Europeans have thought that much about the husband qualities of American men, unless they happen to be married to one. If they give negative qualities to Americans (and many do) they apply equally to both genders without the special exemptions some men like to claim for themselves. From my years in London I know that American men do get singled out for:

1. Drinking piss weak beer

2. Playing rugby with shoulder pads

3. Tub-thumping "without us you'd be speaking German" when everyone knows that a. America had not yet joined the war during the Battle of Britain and b. we really should be thanking the Russians. But they just blame our poor education system.

This is 100% accurate.

BTW: I knew that Americans applied #3 to France, but is it commonly applied to the UK as well?

[toma1 10]

lol - for some reason I must use this as an excuse to post this clip

That's funny, thanks!

Edited October 20, 2009 by toma1

[Trompe le Monde 1,107]

BTW: I knew that Americans applied #3 to France, but is it commonly applied to the UK as well?

yes, all the time - I find it really embarrassing personally

[Donna A 4]

did u ever think that if a woman advertizes for a man who makes 50k a year it might be because she wants a man equal to her income and not that she is looking for a man with money? i know i made twice what my ex made and he was very mad about it and caused alot of problems because of it. so with that being said, i dont want a man who makes less then me because of what happened between my ex and me. so whats wrong with wanting a man who is equal?

[Der Bücherwurm 1]

I think judging someone based on looks is equally as bad as judging someone based upon income. But everyone is superficial to some extent. I know that my blue eyes, button nose and long, blond hair is part of what attracts my husband to me but that isn't all he cares about. And the fact that my husband isn't a fat, balding, superficial, materialistic, ignorant, loud-mouthed, misogynistic, American male is part but not all of what attracts me to him. The superficial things might be what initially holds your attraction but they won't hold your interest completely or be what maintains your relationship in the long run. Now to all those out there with deep-seated feelings of inadequacy due to low income and insufficient packages, it is time to break out the blow up dolls because you'll never attract a real woman of any nationality with that massive chip on your shoulder.

Edited October 20, 2009 by Der Bücherwurm

[steve55 0]

Steve55

I think you are taking what women say to literal. Women might say this is what I want, but usually when they are in love or even in like they sometimes forget about their "requirements."

Well, I would agree with that.

And while $18K would be a rough life, I agree, but both spouses can work, 18K x 2 = $36,000. You wont be living the high life but people do live on that.

[steve55 0]

Steve55,

It is ignorant of you to categorizes all American women into one category. I think relationships are about compromising, and love. I don't expect any man to take care of me that is why I have a degree. I expect us to be partners and love and respect each other because that is what a relationship is about.

Edit: sorry typo

I never said ALL american woman are that way. I always say "In general" or "most". Even match.com shows about 70% of american ladies having minimum income requirements of $50K +. That's evidence enough that western ladies are looking for a man to make a certain amount of money for a certain lifestyle. !

Is that a Cali/NY $50K or a Midwestern $50K?

Poor Steve. He chose to be poor and now blames American women for not liking him. (Apparently, teh Asians don't like him either.)

LOL, Im not poor. That is a ignorant asumption on your part. This is strictly a moral issue for me. What, you think that if I made alot of money that Id want to date a woman who I know in my heart would not be with me if I didnt make a certian amount of money?? Think again!

[steve55 0]

Steve55,

It is ignorant of you to categorizes all American women into one category. I think relationships are about compromising, and love. I don't expect any man to take care of me that is why I have a degree. I expect us to be partners and love and respect each other because that is what a relationship is about.

Edit: sorry typo

I never said ALL american woman are that way. I always say "In general" or "most". Even match.com shows about 70% of american ladies having minimum income requirements of $50K +. That's evidence enough that western ladies are looking for a man to make a certain amount of money for a certain lifestyle. !

Is that a Cali/NY $50K or a Midwestern $50K?

Poor Steve. He chose to be poor and now blames American women for not liking him. (Apparently, teh Asians don't like him either.)

I agree I think he is blaming American women for his issues with money.

He he he, no, folks, again, Im not poor. LOL. Please understand, if I worth 10 billion, Id still be on my high horse about the artificiality of woman who love for money instead of who the man is.

ON the other hand, I do blame a large part of my being single on the fact that most american woman are overweight and I just cant get into sex with an overweight woman. Over recent years (in my 30's) , Ive been to many singles events and social settings full of singles but every time I go, it seems 90% of the ladies are too large or overweight. I wish I had sexual attraction to large and overweight woman but I dont. It would make my life alot easier. If it were a concious choice, I would want to be physically attracte dto overweight woman, it would open up my options greatly .

[steve55 0]

Subject being this - slapping labels on people - whether it be about nationality, or weight, or gender - or whatever - makes the subject of the label feel defensive. It makes people feel bad.

Agreed. I don't think people should throw everyone into one category. Yes, there are over weight Americans, but not every American is over weight. There are over weight people in every country.

WHoaaa, come on now!!!!!!!! That's so misrepresentation. Yes, of course there are overwight people in every country, BUT, Western countries take the cake on overweightness. ABout 70% of America (probably britain and austrailians too??) are overweight. ABout 5-10% of other countries populations are. Asian and latin countries populations are 90% thin!!

How can you even think there is a comparison.

PS-Toma 1, I know you would like a link to the stats, LOL. Im too tired to dig it up right now.

[steve55 0]

I think judging someone based on looks is equally as bad as judging someone based upon income.

If that was directed at me, I dont judge anyone based on looks. I dont think large or overwight woman are bad or less of human beings or anything negative like that (though I do think that of woman who date only guys with money), Im simply stating that so far, I have been unable to feel attracted to large /overweight woman. And that severely limits a man;s option in this country since 70% of the poplation(especially in 30's range) is overwight There's no judging, I only said Im not attracted to overwight woman.

Edited October 22, 2009 by steve55