Third K1 Visa

[meowmeowmeow 1]

I've noticed alot of discussion regarding filing a second K1 visa within two years of the first, and how the US CIS mistakes "beneficiary" for "petition". What I'm curious about is the two per lifetime K1 visa sponsorship limit. It seems that the wavier for that should only be granted if a previous beneficiary dies (or a female is abused by a previous beneficiary), at least, that's the impression i get reading the forms & internal memo. I've read the GAO report that states most K1 waivers are granted, but that's for the two-year rule if I'm reading it correctly. Is there any information regarding someone who's actually willing to risk a third round of Russian Roulette? I mean, even felons get three strikes, we get only two?

Mind you, this is purely of intellectual interest to me. I have no intention of going down the aisle again, regardless of her citizenship.

I had my 3rd approved and it was within 2 years of the 2nd approval. The first 2 girls had backed out on me and never made it here to the US (they were 19 yrs old and this had most to do with it). This time it was me who backed out on this 3rd one, and she went back to the Philippines. Im still hoping to find a filipina wife cause I just cant meet the kind of woman I want here. So I may be looking for my 4th petition some day, perhpas sooner than later. Im just havent been ready to give my search any effort yet. Maybe Ill be the first 4th petition IMBRA test case here. If so, Ill be sure to let everyone know how it goes. If I could only find a 30 to 36 yr old woman in the states who isnt overweight, carrying baggage from previous marriages, and who doesnt care how much money I make, then I just might not need to look overseas for marriage.

http://www.eharmony.com...and #######. 19 year old girl....

[Azzudiin 26]

All these people saying to not generalize American women, but in actuality until you have been a 40 -50 year old male in the USA, you don't have a clue.

Though I don't agree with the OP's point a view, this board is highly populated with men that frankly gave up on American women for many reasons, main reason though is American culture is just to damn materialistic, everyone is graded by their job and income.

For the men that are in this age range and looking to have children, the chances are slim to none in he USA just because, here being close in age is the norm and most women in their 40's are not looking to have a child.

Many other cultures age is not so important, though 40 to 19 is a stretch, my SO is 9 years my younger and I am 46.

I don't think over weight really comes into play, but physically attractiveness to your SO is one of many atributes of a successful marriage, and most successful marriages you will commonly hear the person refer to their SO as the most beautiful person in world. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Again, I do not entirely agree with OP but discussion of why men in the 40's go looking for foreign brides is a legit discussion topic.

[Trompe le Monde 1,107]

I suppose American men have managed to completely avoid the materialism that has infected american culture instead of perpetuating it themselves

Why are American men waiting until middle age to have children anyway? I think therein may lie the reason why this board has so many American women who have looked abroad for their husbands

[Donna A 4]

does it ever accure to anyone that the men here wanna continually compare american woman to pinay woman saying how fat we are and how nice and thin they are?

do u realize guys if u compare urselves to a pinay man that ur also fat?

just my 2C's on the matter.

[Brad and Vika 129]

does it ever accure to anyone that the men here wanna continually compare american woman to pinay woman saying how fat we are and how nice and thin they are?

do u realize guys if u compare urselves to a pinay man that ur also fat?

just my 2C's on the matter.

Yes it has occurred to us, but as some one on my home forum said "if our hawt, hawt, Eastern European girls continue to seek out our bald, blubbery goodness - there is no incentive to change". I assume that is true for Pinay gals as well

[Azzudiin 26]

does it ever accure to anyone that the men here wanna continually compare american woman to pinay woman saying how fat we are and how nice and thin they are?

do u realize guys if u compare urselves to a pinay man that ur also fat?

just my 2C's on the matter.

Just like all American women are not fat, all middle aged American men are not fat. I am not fat, nor balding, no desire to have children at my age, I simply had zero success at my age finding a spouse in the US with 5 plus years trying after my divorce. Now I am actually happy I had no success so that I could meet my current SO, posted a pre wedding pic in my photos.

[ssalburo 0]

However, I suspect that at some point he will discover that they too have "flaws" and will decide NONE of them in the WHOLE country can possibly meet his "requirements" and look in a whole other country!

-Blu-(just saying)

I definitely think that all ladies no matter what nationality, age, religion whatsoever has thier own flaws, we ladies are not perfect..I am a filipina and a very independent woman who doesn't care about how much $$$ my hubby is making but I am a 10lbs. overweight which my husband finds attractive, regarding our important decisions, we both have to decide and communicate on what we both feel because marriage is not a one way street. About sex, it's is not all the time that I say Yes, and a husband has to respect that but it doesn't mean that I'll call the cops.

For financial setbacks, I do ask my husband on what he's going to do..or what I can do to help. But if your a couple it should be "WE", not "I" or "YOU".

On Exploded home appliance...I do not hide..and defenitely do not buy cheap things that easily breaks..

The OP just have to be open-minded and realize that not most filipinas has his standards nor expectations, not unless he lives there half his life.

Edited August 15, 2009 by ssalburo

[sera77 35]

Ok...after reading this thread, and as an American woman...I have come to one simple conclusion for the OP. He is SO in love with the Phillipines culture and women and SO completely downgraded American women with his simplistic (and stereotypical) generalizations, I think there is only ONE solution that makes any sense.

He should immigrate to the Phillipines. There he can shop in person and perhaps find, one, two or twenty perfect, subservient, mousy women to choose from. However, I suspect that at some point he will discover that they too have "flaws" and will decide NONE of them in the WHOLE country can possibly meet his "requirements" and look in a whole other country!

Maybe we can even start a fund to help him pay for his plane ticket as we ALL know American women must be swimming in the money their "men" provide for them.

GIVE ME A BREAK OP.....GENERALIZE MUCH?

I am sure all of us dominating, fat and demanding American women would be HAPPY to let you leave our bi*chy clutches.

-Blu-(just saying)

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Just want to add that Steve55 is not the OP, but I think he's the one you're responding to.

Oops, guess i have more things to add.Reading the entire thread has led to this....

1. I got a weird feeling about him after reading all his posts; someone else used the word 'predator' referring to him and that is what he appears to be to me too.

I don't have a 19yr daughter or any children but I wouldn't want one having anything to do with a person like him. That is purely a 'feeling' response but I have the utmost sympathy for any inexperienced young filipina who got involved with him and then realized what life in the U.S. would be like with him. It seems like he targets as being most desireable the ones who would have least ability to protect themselves while he can still point and say 'look, it's legal'. Ick. Hope there are lots of protective fathers and mums.

2. I believe he said in a post having a young wife is desireable also because he wants a wife young enough to have children with but how would he support a wife AND a child (or children) on a salary that low in the US. Let's be practical here, any woman who is rational and wants children IS going to look at earning capacity of the couple as a whole if she is a responsible mother. If she's not working then 18k a year isn't going to cut it. If she IS working it better be enough to cover living expenses and child care costs, cause for some reason his own posts lead me to believe that stevie does not like to take part in traditional female home life activity so I doubt stay at home child raising is something in his sphere of activity. I know some very successful marriages with stay at home dads, but the women in those marriages are anything but humble and running scared at broken appliances.

I'm not saying a salary of 18k makes a person a loser , because frankly if you're happy doing that job for life than that's great.There are lots of great fun jobs out there that don't pay much. But if you think it is rational for a woman who wants to have a happy marriage with children to WANT to marry you at that total income per year in the U.S. than I think you should wake up. They are not being materialistic or selfish. They are being realistic and thinking ahead to what is best for the children. Not even for themselves, but for the Children.

I honestly don't understand how you can set up such an ideal type of woman and not be willing to work harder or get a second job or education in order to attract the type you claim you want instead of laying blame on others for not being what is irrational to be in the first part.

It's almost .. well no. it's not almost.. there's a strong sense of your being angry at american women for not wanting what is in all practical terms 'second rate quality' in a future husband and father. So you sling mud at american women and say you need a phillipina. And that's a terrible and undeserved put down on phillipine women.

Surely you can see from a woman's viewpoint from the outside that a 40ish year old man actively seeking 19 and 20 yr old foreign subservient type women and who is only making 18k a year and wants nothing more is odd.Why post verbal slings against american women for behaving in a rational manner? Just looks more creepy that you have such anger and spitefulness in your posts, and yes they do read that way as a whole. I don't remember anything about love in them, only about how the woman should behave.

I realize I'm heavily biased. I'm an american born daughter of 2 very hard working german immigrants. I was taught to work hard at home and at my job and to look for that along with love in order to have a successful marriage. Sounds a little cold? Hellno, I'm in deep and passionate love with my wonderful fiance AND I know I have a partner for life; not a servant afraid I'll hold the money supply hostage to their behaviour.

Last note, Feminism does not mean women over men, it means equal treatment disregarding gender. It's sad that so many people have twisted the word into something else. It's ironic that it is so often used to imply fanaticism when it is meant to define the opposite.

[Peggy 1]

I've noticed alot of discussion regarding filing a second K1 visa within two years of the first, and how the US CIS mistakes "beneficiary" for "petition". What I'm curious about is the two per lifetime K1 visa sponsorship limit. It seems that the wavier for that should only be granted if a previous beneficiary dies (or a female is abused by a previous beneficiary), at least, that's the impression i get reading the forms & internal memo. I've read the GAO report that states most K1 waivers are granted, but that's for the two-year rule if I'm reading it correctly. Is there any information regarding someone who's actually willing to risk a third round of Russian Roulette? I mean, even felons get three strikes, we get only two?

Mind you, this is purely of intellectual interest to me. I have no intention of going down the aisle again, regardless of her citizenship.

I had my 3rd approved and it was within 2 years of the 2nd approval. The first 2 girls had backed out on me and never made it here to the US (they were 19 yrs old and this had most to do with it). This time it was me who backed out on this 3rd one, and she went back to the Philippines. Im still hoping to find a filipina wife cause I just cant meet the kind of woman I want here. So I may be looking for my 4th petition some day, perhpas sooner than later. Im just havent been ready to give my search any effort yet. Maybe Ill be the first 4th petition IMBRA test case here. If so, Ill be sure to let everyone know how it goes. If I could only find a 30 to 36 yr old woman in the states who isnt overweight, carrying baggage from previous marriages, and who doesnt care how much money I make, then I just might not need to look overseas for marriage.

You just made yourself look like a complete idiot.... You might want to look at yourself before you put all American woman down...someone needs to grow up....Hope the next girl knows she is number 4.....

Edited August 15, 2009 by Forever In Love

[bhajishah 4]

good luck on that, hope you find a youngin to really bind with on a intellectual level, after the kids are grown, you plan on her talking and rocking on the porch with you, or will she be your nurse?? what an indentured life for her...

[Mrs.J06 4]

All these people saying to not generalize American women, but in actuality until you have been a 40 -50 year old male in the USA, you don't have a clue.

Though I don't agree with the OP's point a view, this board is highly populated with men that frankly gave up on American women for many reasons, main reason though is American culture is just to damn materialistic, everyone is graded by their job and income.

For the men that are in this age range and looking to have children, the chances are slim to none in he USA just because, here being close in age is the norm and most women in their 40's are not looking to have a child.

Many other cultures age is not so important, though 40 to 19 is a stretch, my SO is 9 years my younger and I am 46.

I don't think over weight really comes into play, but physically attractiveness to your SO is one of many atributes of a successful marriage, and most successful marriages you will commonly hear the person refer to their SO as the most beautiful person in world. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Again, I do not entirely agree with OP but discussion of why men in the 40's go looking for foreign brides is a legit discussion topic.

You think Americans are materialistic and are going to marry a Chinese woman? That indeed is funny!

[Azzudiin 26]

All these people saying to not generalize American women, but in actuality until you have been a 40 -50 year old male in the USA, you don't have a clue.

Though I don't agree with the OP's point a view, this board is highly populated with men that frankly gave up on American women for many reasons, main reason though is American culture is just to damn materialistic, everyone is graded by their job and income.

For the men that are in this age range and looking to have children, the chances are slim to none in he USA just because, here being close in age is the norm and most women in their 40's are not looking to have a child.

Many other cultures age is not so important, though 40 to 19 is a stretch, my SO is 9 years my younger and I am 46.

I don't think over weight really comes into play, but physically attractiveness to your SO is one of many atributes of a successful marriage, and most successful marriages you will commonly hear the person refer to their SO as the most beautiful person in world. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Again, I do not entirely agree with OP but discussion of why men in the 40's go looking for foreign brides is a legit discussion topic.

You think Americans are materialistic and are going to marry a Chinese woman? That indeed is funny!

Obviously no concept of China economics, so quick lesson for you.

America: Go deep in debt to have house, car, clothes to keep up with Jones, always desire more.

China: Desire all those things, but only buy if you have the cash, be happy with what you have.

[Mrs.J06 4]

All these people saying to not generalize American women, but in actuality until you have been a 40 -50 year old male in the USA, you don't have a clue.

Though I don't agree with the OP's point a view, this board is highly populated with men that frankly gave up on American women for many reasons, main reason though is American culture is just to damn materialistic, everyone is graded by their job and income.

For the men that are in this age range and looking to have children, the chances are slim to none in he USA just because, here being close in age is the norm and most women in their 40's are not looking to have a child.

Many other cultures age is not so important, though 40 to 19 is a stretch, my SO is 9 years my younger and I am 46.

I don't think over weight really comes into play, but physically attractiveness to your SO is one of many atributes of a successful marriage, and most successful marriages you will commonly hear the person refer to their SO as the most beautiful person in world. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Again, I do not entirely agree with OP but discussion of why men in the 40's go looking for foreign brides is a legit discussion topic.

You think Americans are materialistic and are going to marry a Chinese woman? That indeed is funny!

Obviously no concept of China economics, so quick lesson for you.

America: Go deep in debt to have house, car, clothes to keep up with Jones, always desire more.

China: Desire all those things, but only buy if you have the cash, be happy with what you have.

Oh sorry, of course I have no clue, I'm just there about 3-4 times a year and work with a bunch of Chinese colleagues every day, but anyway: How about buying gifts and do anything and everything to be "westernized" only for the purpose of " impressing your friends"? My German colleagues living in China get dates in proportion to their income and their ability to pay for expensive drinks in expensive establishments, and during meetups the girlfriend/wives brag about how much their longnoses make.

I agree the Chinese haven't embraced the concept of living on borrow money (yet), but social status and even more so MONEY certainly drives their every decision in life! My colleague says "money is my religion". If you think otherwise you're in for a surprise.

[VanessaTony 3,567]

I just think it's sad that several replies seem to indicate fiances chosen based on their culture or country of origin.

I take this path for love, I certainly wouldn't do this for "fun". I know my fiance and I know what I'm getting into. Just. Wow.

[Old Dominion 26]

For some, there are cultures which are seen as having special charms. With that in mind, it's reasonable to search in those cultures if you want to be picky,