Third K1 Visa

[MonkeyJuice 3]

I can see where your coming from. To put it in a nice way, you want a more traditional 50's type wife. One that looks after her husband, likes to cook, clean...

I don't mind doin all that stuff but it's nicer to be a team & work together.

I hope you get the woman of your dreams. I also hope you are the man of her dreams and not some lazy, chauvinistic bore because she'll soon become tired of being your personal slave when she becomes "westernized".

[pushbrk 12,894]

I can see where your coming from. To put it in a nice way, you want a more traditional 50's type wife. One that looks after her husband, likes to cook, clean...

I don't mind doin all that stuff but it's nicer to be a team & work together.

I hope you get the woman of your dreams. I also hope you are the man of her dreams and not some lazy, chauvinistic bore because she'll soon become tired of being your personal slave when she becomes "westernized".

I share some of the sentiments but would encourage you to consider that many traditional 50's type wives worked as a team with their husbands and found it very nice indeed and that she may or may not ever become "westernized" or want to. Some would even go so far as to opine that the "westernized" marriage represents a couple working more like individuals than like a team.

[Brad and Vika 129]

I can see where your coming from. To put it in a nice way, you want a more traditional 50's type wife. One that looks after her husband, likes to cook, clean...

I don't mind doin all that stuff but it's nicer to be a team & work together.

I hope you get the woman of your dreams. I also hope you are the man of her dreams and not some lazy, chauvinistic bore because she'll soon become tired of being your personal slave when she becomes "westernized".

I share some of the sentiments but would encourage you to consider that many traditional 50's type wives worked as a team with their husbands and found it very nice indeed and that she may or may not ever become "westernized" or want to. Some would even go so far as to opine that the "westernized" marriage represents a couple working more like individuals than like a team.

Nicely said sir

[HannahP 119]

I can see where your coming from. To put it in a nice way, you want a more traditional 50's type wife. One that looks after her husband, likes to cook, clean...

I don't mind doin all that stuff but it's nicer to be a team & work together.

I hope you get the woman of your dreams. I also hope you are the man of her dreams and not some lazy, chauvinistic bore because she'll soon become tired of being your personal slave when she becomes "westernized".

I share some of the sentiments but would encourage you to consider that many traditional 50's type wives worked as a team with their husbands and found it very nice indeed and that she may or may not ever become "westernized" or want to. Some would even go so far as to opine that the "westernized" marriage represents a couple working more like individuals than like a team.

Righto.

I don't think team-work has anything to do with the type of marriage that you want. I know that feminists = feminazis but if you actually read the books, MANY traditional 50's wives felt alienated from their families.

Equally, yeah, many "new" relationships tend to diverge as each partner does their own thing.

But, really.

[minimule 3]

some women actually do like to stay home, cook and raise kids

and some prefer to go to work...

from my personal experience, American woman are bigger than a lot of european women..and it s not to be mean but i lived in the us for 8 years...

on the other hand, iv met plently of American women in their late 30 s , who are slim, and not only interested in money.

i think what he means is that maybe women from richer countries take certain things for granted, but women from poor countries appreciate the lil things more...

I also think there is nothing wrong with wanting to marry somone with no kids, just like there is nothing wrong with marrying someone who has kids.... it is a personal choice, and i think you people need to be a lil less judgmental...

do i agree that marrying someone from a different country will fix everything? NO , but that is his decision, and i have no right to tell him what to do or judge him.

[pushbrk 12,894]

I also think there is nothing wrong with wanting to marry somone with no kids, just like there is nothing wrong with marrying someone who has kids.... it is a personal choice, and i think you people need to be a lil less judgmental...

You bet it's a personal choice. Kids are wonderful but when I last married, I was 54, with two married daughters. I was happy to bring an 18 year old into my home but at that stage of my life, I want to welcome small grandchildren to my home, then send them home with their parents, not bring them in my home to live another 15 or 20 years. I'm in a different stage of life now.

Even a dozen years ago, I could easily have fallen in love with my very best friend but, I just was not in the stage of life to deal with what I knew would be this young woman's eventual desire to have children. She was 15 years younger. Nine years later, I married a woman 12 years younger but her daughter was already 18. Circumstances usually impact priorities. Headed out to see two of my three (almost four) grandchildren today.

[Trompe le Monde 1,107]

What is always amusing about these threads is that Western men seem to believe they have escaped all the negative aspects/influence of the Western/American society they grew up in when they marry a woman from Asia. They (the man) are not materialistic, they have better family values. And of course their American mothers, sisters, nieces, cousins and daughters are not one of those women.

I lived in Asia and I agree they have better family values, generally speaking. But if American women are left wanting in this regards, well so quite frankly are American men. I kind of scratch my head on the materialism charge becuase there is a pretty big market for designer labels (in China anyway) and the girls over there lap them up. Where I worked, even the lowest paid secretary had a (genuine) Louis Vuitton handbag and Prada shoes.

My experience of China is also that Chinese women liked their careers and self-sufficiency too. And as businesswomen, they could run circles around any man, and can be very aggressive in negotiations (just like their mothers at the wet market). I have seen more than one Western man get their a$$ handed to them by one in a deal because he under-estimated them.

And if this thread won't die, I'm blaming Brad *shakes fist*

[Ginger cat 3]

a kinf od off topic but, needed to say that abotu chosing someone whihc is not in our country.: I took a chance with a guy from over there (for living in france) for bc he makes me dream and match to many of my standards (intellectual, interesting, nice, man, handsome, devoted).

and I love when he whsipers to me "jeu tou vou". awww..that's my Matou. and I lvoe when he called me "my Ginger cat".

PS: i woudln't have been able to datewith guy from any country. i have to say that for some odd reasons, it woudl have been either a french or an US guy. don't ask me why. the other nations: no, maybe bc i don't feel as attracted as for the other cultures, oriental occidental or whatever. when i was little I wanted to become an english teacher and would to want to travel USA from East to West.

beside, when i was young and not committed, I met 4 american guys and we dated, one wanted to bring me over there and everything, i was too young (21) and dropped that relationship . I guess iwas not ready to leave my country.

13 years later, i can make it! I am READDDYYY!

watch out, i am coming.

American guys rule. that's all i have to say.

Edited March 29, 2009 by Ginger cat

[Ginger cat 3]

What is always amusing about these threads is that Western men seem to believe they have escaped all the negative aspects/influence of the Western/American society they grew up in when they marry a woman from Asia. They (the man) are not materialistic, they have better family values. And of course their American mothers, sisters, nieces, cousins and daughters are not one of those women.

I lived in Asia and I agree they have better family values, generally speaking. But if American women are left wanting in this regards, well so quite frankly are American men. I kind of scratch my head on the materialism charge becuase there is a pretty big market for designer labels (in China anyway) and the girls over there lap them up. Where I worked, even the lowest paid secretary had a (genuine) Louis Vuitton handbag and Prada shoes.

My experience of China is also that Chinese women liked their careers and self-sufficiency too. And as businesswomen, they could run circles around any man, and can be very aggressive in negotiations (just like their mothers at the wet market). I have seen more than one Western man get their a$$ handed to them by one in a deal because he under-estimated them.

And if this thread won't die, I'm blaming Brad *shakes fist*

in all honestly i find women from those countries as materialistic and even more materialistc for they tend to imitate and want to appear as mordern if not more than western woman.

but the difference is that for western girls, it has been a lifetly they have been growing into, for the other is almost a goal in their life "to be like them". so they will double their efforts.

beside, we can find billions fo woman in western countries that are into the counter-culture, and then won't have any ostentatous signs on their clothes or accessories, and they won't feel that something is missing.

PS: i am talking in general, i am not saying that "all women"

Edited March 29, 2009 by Ginger cat

[MonkeyJuice 3]

I can see where your coming from. To put it in a nice way, you want a more traditional 50's type wife. One that looks after her husband, likes to cook, clean...

I don't mind doin all that stuff but it's nicer to be a team & work together.

I hope you get the woman of your dreams. I also hope you are the man of her dreams and not some lazy, chauvinistic bore because she'll soon become tired of being your personal slave when she becomes "westernized".

I share some of the sentiments but would encourage you to consider that many traditional 50's type wives worked as a team with their husbands and found it very nice indeed and that she may or may not ever become "westernized" or want to. Some would even go so far as to opine that the "westernized" marriage represents a couple working more like individuals than like a team.

In your opinion, of course, because you have never been a 50's housewife!

[Ginger cat 3]

I've noticed alot of discussion regarding filing a second K1 visa within two years of the first, and how the US CIS mistakes "beneficiary" for "petition". What I'm curious about is the two per lifetime K1 visa sponsorship limit. It seems that the wavier for that should only be granted if a previous beneficiary dies (or a female is abused by a previous beneficiary), at least, that's the impression i get reading the forms & internal memo. I've read the GAO report that states most K1 waivers are granted, but that's for the two-year rule if I'm reading it correctly. Is there any information regarding someone who's actually willing to risk a third round of Russian Roulette? I mean, even felons get three strikes, we get only two?

Mind you, this is purely of intellectual interest to me. I have no intention of going down the aisle again, regardless of her citizenship.

I had my 3rd approved and it was within 2 years of the 2nd approval. The first 2 girls had backed out on me and never made it here to the US (they were 19 yrs old and this had most to do with it). This time it was me who backed out on this 3rd one, and she went back to the Philippines. Im still hoping to find a filipina wife cause I just cant meet the kind of woman I want here. So I may be looking for my 4th petition some day, perhpas sooner than later. Im just havent been ready to give my search any effort yet. Maybe Ill be the first 4th petition IMBRA test case here. If so, Ill be sure to let everyone know how it goes. If I could only find a 30 to 36 yr old woman in the states who isnt overweight, carrying baggage from previous marriages, and who doesnt care how much money I make, then I just might not need to look overseas for marriage.

Bump.

oopss.. i am sorry i am late...

but that's hilarious.

Steve55,

[Trompe le Monde 1,107]

That Betty Draper doesn't seem to happy - fortunately for her, there were no taboos about drinking scotch before noon back in those days.

[pushbrk 12,894]

I can see where your coming from. To put it in a nice way, you want a more traditional 50's type wife. One that looks after her husband, likes to cook, clean...

I don't mind doin all that stuff but it's nicer to be a team & work together.

I hope you get the woman of your dreams. I also hope you are the man of her dreams and not some lazy, chauvinistic bore because she'll soon become tired of being your personal slave when she becomes "westernized".

I share some of the sentiments but would encourage you to consider that many traditional 50's type wives worked as a team with their husbands and found it very nice indeed and that she may or may not ever become "westernized" or want to. Some would even go so far as to opine that the "westernized" marriage represents a couple working more like individuals than like a team.

In your opinion, of course, because you have never been a 50's housewife!

It actually my experience based on the expressed opinions of many a 50's housewife. My own mother would not be included in that mix, as she was a divorced career woman during nearly all my early years and definitely all my adult years.

If my opinion enters into it, is that I believe the women told me the truth.

To piggyback on a later post, my Chinese wife is definitely "materialistic" within the parameters mentioned but not in any way I find negative. I'm materialistic too and not ashamed of it. That said, my wife didn't marry for materialistic reasons. She had a good life in China but one without the prospects of a loving husband in her future.

[Brad and Vika 129]

What is always amusing about these threads is that Western men seem to believe they have escaped all the negative aspects/influence of the Western/American society they grew up in when they marry a woman from Asia. They (the man) are not materialistic, they have better family values. And of course their American mothers, sisters, nieces, cousins and daughters are not one of those women.

I lived in Asia and I agree they have better family values, generally speaking. But if American women are left wanting in this regards, well so quite frankly are American men. I kind of scratch my head on the materialism charge becuase there is a pretty big market for designer labels (in China anyway) and the girls over there lap them up. Where I worked, even the lowest paid secretary had a (genuine) Louis Vuitton handbag and Prada shoes.

My experience of China is also that Chinese women liked their careers and self-sufficiency too. And as businesswomen, they could run circles around any man, and can be very aggressive in negotiations (just like their mothers at the wet market). I have seen more than one Western man get their a$$ handed to them by one in a deal because he under-estimated them.

And if this thread won't die, I'm blaming Brad *shakes fist*

Blame away Please don't confuse an appreciation for more traditional family values for any sort of dislike of American women. As we have seen in many posts, most of us chalk up our choices to personal preference and circumstance. Plenty of awesome American women around IMHO (I am related to some of them). My appreciation for my wife and her culture do not prohibit appreciation for American women too. My preferences and choice are mine alone - and I make no sweeping generalizations or judgements about any one else's spouse or choice here.

[Trompe le Monde 1,107]

What is always amusing about these threads is that Western men seem to believe they have escaped all the negative aspects/influence of the Western/American society they grew up in when they marry a woman from Asia. They (the man) are not materialistic, they have better family values. And of course their American mothers, sisters, nieces, cousins and daughters are not one of those women.

I lived in Asia and I agree they have better family values, generally speaking. But if American women are left wanting in this regards, well so quite frankly are American men. I kind of scratch my head on the materialism charge becuase there is a pretty big market for designer labels (in China anyway) and the girls over there lap them up. Where I worked, even the lowest paid secretary had a (genuine) Louis Vuitton handbag and Prada shoes.

My experience of China is also that Chinese women liked their careers and self-sufficiency too. And as businesswomen, they could run circles around any man, and can be very aggressive in negotiations (just like their mothers at the wet market). I have seen more than one Western man get their a$$ handed to them by one in a deal because he under-estimated them.

And if this thread won't die, I'm blaming Brad *shakes fist*

Blame away Please don't confuse an appreciation for more traditional family values for any sort of dislike of American women. As we have seen in many posts, most of us chalk up our choices to personal preference and circumstance. Plenty of awesome American women around IMHO (I am related to some of them). My appreciation for my wife and her culture do not prohibit appreciation for American women too. My preferences and choice are mine alone - and I make no sweeping generalizations or judgements about any one else's spouse or choice here.

I'm not confusing them, but there are many here that do as we have seen only a few posts up the thread.