Third K1 Visa

[MsZ 6]

Age gaps can work. But they do increase the chances that the relationship will have issues.

[bhajishah 4]

Tax payers money pay for DHS and immigration for peoples frivilous habits, whims and desires. IMO, should only be once unless woman is widowed and the cousin want to marry her or something like this need. not lustful needs

[panterchen 1]

I've noticed alot of discussion regarding filing a second K1 visa within two years of the first, and how the US CIS mistakes "beneficiary" for "petition". What I'm curious about is the two per lifetime K1 visa sponsorship limit. It seems that the wavier for that should only be granted if a previous beneficiary dies (or a female is abused by a previous beneficiary), at least, that's the impression i get reading the forms & internal memo. I've read the GAO report that states most K1 waivers are granted, but that's for the two-year rule if I'm reading it correctly. Is there any information regarding someone who's actually willing to risk a third round of Russian Roulette? I mean, even felons get three strikes, we get only two?

Mind you, this is purely of intellectual interest to me. I have no intention of going down the aisle again, regardless of her citizenship.

I had my 3rd approved and it was within 2 years of the 2nd approval. The first 2 girls had backed out on me and never made it here to the US (they were 19 yrs old and this had most to do with it). This time it was me who backed out on this 3rd one, and she went back to the Philippines. Im still hoping to find a filipina wife cause I just cant meet the kind of woman I want here. So I may be looking for my 4th petition some day, perhpas sooner than later. Im just havent been ready to give my search any effort yet. Maybe Ill be the first 4th petition IMBRA test case here. If so, Ill be sure to let everyone know how it goes. If I could only find a 30 to 36 yr old woman in the states who isnt overweight, carrying baggage from previous marriages, and who doesnt care how much money I make, then I just might not need to look overseas for marriage.

Do you really believe a Filipina doesn't care about the money you make?? Even if you are a poor USC their life might turn out to be better in the US than in their home country. And I think you run a higher risk of meeting these girls by looking at dating agencies that fall under IMBRA. It's a different story most of the times though, if you would go there on vacation and fall in love...Also I am sure there is a lot of filipino women who are in their early 30ies, have accomplished something in life and earn their own good money. But those probably won't even be interested in a man who seems to not being able to dal with grown-up women that are independent and not submissive. Or why do you look at 19year olds?

[DanielParul 50]

Do you really believe a Filipina doesn't care about the money you make?? Even if you are a poor USC their life might turn out to be better in the US than in their home country. And I think you run a higher risk of meeting these girls by looking at dating agencies that fall under IMBRA. It's a different story most of the times though, if you would go there on vacation and fall in love...Also I am sure there is a lot of filipino women who are in their early 30ies, have accomplished something in life and earn their own good money. But those probably won't even be interested in a man who seems to not being able to dal with grown-up women that are independent and not submissive. Or why do you look at 19year olds?

And why just a Filipina, any woman will care how much money her SO makes. American women are like any other women in any other country in the world - The are women!

Trying to get a wife from a third world country and that too someone who is your daughter's age who has no idea about life here is like burying your head in the sand for the time being. She will grow up and start thinking like a woman eventually and then if she doesn't want to continue with this arrangement, it can be termed fraud.

[Dr. Obvious 49]

I too would never consider marrying another American woman after my personal experience and those of so many others I know.

If your wife decides for citizenship, will you divorce her as now she is an American woman? All women naturalizing as USCs take a secret oath to hate men and listen to KD Lang and buy Birkenstocks and such.

[Old Dominion 26]

Aw. c'mon now. The guy was being honest with his feelings. Why would ANY single man (or woman) be looking for an overseas bride? We Americans tend to take ourselves far too seriously and spouses tend to be quite competitive in their marriages.

[steve55 0]

I suspect he thinks that he's going to get some sort of subservient wife from another country. At his age, looking at 19 YOs is another indication that he's got baggage -- he's afraid of grown women who might actually have expectations of him.

Sorry folks, I only just now checked this forum again and now have a chance to reply. FUnny thing is, I completely forgot that I had even posted this here. I was only checking here again because I wanted to see if there were any new updates from anyone who has passed a 3rd or 4th k-1 attempt.

For starters, the quote above is SPOT ON!! I dont like American ladies because they have too much demands and expectations, especially in $$$$. And I dont find myself attracted to strong, bold, assertive, and Independent woman, I find these to be masculine traits and prefer woman to be feminine. Furthermore, with american ladies, if the men don't fit a rigid and unrealistic criteria or she doesn't feel the man can take care of her enough (even if she has a higher paying job) then she will drop him like a hot potato, regardless of his character or commitment to the relationship.This is a HUGE turn off to me. I find american ladies hard to please and to have a sense of entitlement and always demanding everything and expecting too much, whereas filipinas appreciate whatever you can do for them, and do so with humility. I dont want the stress of having to worry about my american woman leaving or divorcing me so easily, especially if I dont make enough money for her desired lifestyle. Filipinas generally accept you for who you are and will stick with you even in the toughest of times. I admire that. Thus I will keep trying for a filipina wife. In the meantime, if I meet that rare American girl who isnt materilistic and has some humility in her, then great, Ill be happy to marry a local American girl.

Secondly, I guess shame on me if I cant find myself sexually attracted to fat/larger woman. I guess I am shallow. I wish I could find myself sexually attracted to large woman cause Id definitley have more options locally if that was the case. I tend to disagree with one poster's remark that thin woman in their 30's are not hard to find. Ive been to many local singles get togethers and other social functions and 80% of the woman are overweight to some degree or another, even if its only an extra 20 to 30 pounds it tends to be a sexual turn off to me. Cant help it. Im not "judging them", its just the way it is for me.

And I agree, once you get to be my age (41), its hard to find woman in my age range who dont already have a x husband or children already, and yes, thats life. BUT, dont misunderstand my comments, Im not judging those who do. Im just saying INTSANT FAMILY is not for me. And I prefer to marry someone who is also marrying for the first time , its just more special that way. Lastly, most american ladies near my age may have a hard time having children. After 35, fertility declines sharply. Thank goodness foreign ladies dont have an age bias and thus I can find a woman young enough who hasnt been married nor has had children yet.

As it is, if I do find another filipina fiance, Im quite concerned at the odds of approval of a 4th petition. Since the IMBRA does not apply to K3's, I guess Ill just marry the girl in her country if necessary. And yes, as one poster said, it (the Philippines) hasnt been working thus far. LOL. But seeing how IMPOSSIBLE it is for me to find what Im looking for locally, it would seem I have no choice but to keep trying. I love the Philippines and the filipino culture. The woman are so humble and this is wonderful to me. It was really bad luck to have 2 filipinas back out like they did. Most guys have success the very first time. The 3rd fiance was my screw up, I made a huge bad judgement call and wont make the same mistake again.

[steve55 0]

Do you really believe a Filipina doesn't care about the money you make?? Even if you are a poor USC their life might turn out to be better in the US than in their home country. And I think you run a higher risk of meeting these girls by looking at dating agencies that fall under IMBRA. It's a different story most of the times though, if you would go there on vacation and fall in love...Also I am sure there is a lot of filipino women who are in their early 30ies, have accomplished something in life and earn their own good money. But those probably won't even be interested in a man who seems to not being able to dal with grown-up women that are independent and not submissive. Or why do you look at 19year olds?

And why just a Filipina, any woman will care how much money her SO makes. American women are like any other women in any other country in the world - The are women!

Trying to get a wife from a third world country and that too someone who is your daughter's age who has no idea about life here is like burying your head in the sand for the time being. She will grow up and start thinking like a woman eventually and then if she doesn't want to continue with this arrangement, it can be termed fraud.

Yes, I really do believe that there are REAL differences between American and Filipinas. Sure, woman are woman, but Western woman are known to have big expectations in the $$ department. Asian ladies tend to view marriage as a "team effort" in terms of supporting a living. If there isnt enough income, they will help out. Many western woman will just divorce you. Plain and simple. I have been to the Philippines 5 times, and feel I have come to know filipinas quite well to see the difference.

On important decisions:

Westernized Woman: “You idiot. Why didn’t you do it my way?”

Filipina: “Up to you….” (This does not mean “up to you”. It means please tell me why you are doing this and then I will tell you how I feel.)

After receiving a gift:

Westernized Woman: Says “thanks” while instantly comparing it to the version owned by her most ostentatious friend.

Filipina: “Thanks, but you really didn’t need to do this.”

On Wednesday Night Sex:

Westernized Woman: “Touch me and I am calling the cops.”

Filipina: “Sure, why not.”

On Shopping:

Westernized Woman: “I just have to have that Vuitton purse/Tiffany bracelet/etc..”

Filipina: “I wonder if I can find a first-class copy.”

On Financial Setbacks:

Westernized Woman: “So what are you going to do about it.”

Filipina: “Maybe I can get some overtime to help out.”

On Exploded Home Appliance:

Westernized Woman: “I told you not to buy that cheap thing.”

Filipina: “………” Dead silence. The Filipina is hiding.

On Infidelity:

Westernized Woman: “I’ll find the nastiest divorce lawyer in Beverly Hills.”

Filipina: “The best way to keep a man away from other women is to be sure he is satisfied at home.”

Me: “I can’t cheat on her (if she is a Filipina). That woman is so good to me……..”

[truffles 2]

Ahhh now you have widened the field to "Westernized " rather than American women I now feel I can respond on a personal note:-

"On important decisions:

Westernized Woman: “You idiot. Why didn’t you do it my way?”

Filipina: “Up to you….” (This does not mean “up to you”. It means please tell me why you are doing this and then I will tell you how I feel.)"

We always discuss actions which will impact on both of us - we are a team, and mindful of each others thoughts, experience and feelings - anything less is dis respectful.

After receiving a gift:

Westernized Woman: Says “thanks” while instantly comparing it to the version owned by her most ostentatious friend.

Filipina: “Thanks, but you really didn’t need to do this.”

Recently, both my husband and I agreed to forgo personal gifts this Christmas as we have just moved and set up new residence - we have already had quite heavy expenditure this year - however I found he had bought me a gift and I was so thrilled and made sure he knew he didnt have t do that.

On Wednesday Night Sex:

Westernized Woman: “Touch me and I am calling the cops.”

Filipina: “Sure, why not.”

Are you seriously expecting anyone to beleive this?

On Shopping:

Westernized Woman: “I just have to have that Vuitton purse/Tiffany bracelet/etc..”

Filipina: “I wonder if I can find a first-class copy.”

I am the ultimate bargain hunter and I hate paying over inflated prices for designer labels - I wouldnt even bother to pay for a so called first class copy after all why buy a copy, you really are saying you would like the original but cant afford it. I cant afford it and am not ashamed of that. I will buy something else instead as copies of the items you describe are over inflated even as copies.

On Financial Setbacks:

Westernized Woman: “So what are you going to do about it.”

Filipina: “Maybe I can get some overtime to help out.”

[b]I have no issue with working and have always been of the mind that it is teamwork - during my first marriage I took on several jobs that had to fit in around my commitments as a mother and wife - meaning I worked low paying jobs to contribute to the family income as well as ensuring my child had the benefit of her parent during her daytime.

More recently my husband found himself unemployed through no fault of his own -we were fortunate that I had access to funds that enabled us pay rent, bill and eat until he found employment.[/b]

On Exploded Home Appliance:

Westernized Woman: “I told you not to buy that cheap thing.”

Filipina: “………” Dead silence. The Filipina is hiding.

[b]When a household appliance breaks down.... then it breaks down ... nothing comes with a lifetime guarantee

Why would any woman be in hiding ? Dont think I would be impressed if my partner hid when a appliance broke down - it would speak volumes about our relationship dont you think?[/b]

On Infidelity:

Westernized Woman: “I’ll find the nastiest divorce lawyer in Beverly Hills.”

Filipina: “The best way to keep a man away from other women is to be sure he is satisfied at home.”

Me: “I can’t cheat on her (if she is a Filipina). That woman is so good to me……..”

I remember my divorce as being amicable - because we communicated about what each of us were feeling and realised that if one person was out of love with the other then there is no point in making both of you unhappy - everything was done with as little fuss and cost as possible.

I think this is more about YOU and the choices in women you have sought out ?.

[DanielParul 50]

Ahhh now you have widened the field to "Westernized " rather than American women I now feel I can respond on a personal note:-

"On important decisions:

Westernized Woman: “You idiot. Why didn’t you do it my way?”

Filipina: “Up to you….” (This does not mean “up to you”. It means please tell me why you are doing this and then I will tell you how I feel.)"

We always discuss actions which will impact on both of us - we are a team, and mindful of each others thoughts, experience and feelings - anything less is dis respectful.

After receiving a gift:

Westernized Woman: Says “thanks” while instantly comparing it to the version owned by her most ostentatious friend.

Filipina: “Thanks, but you really didn’t need to do this.”

Recently, both my husband and I agreed to forgo personal gifts this Christmas as we have just moved and set up new residence - we have already had quite heavy expenditure this year - however I found he had bought me a gift and I was so thrilled and made sure he knew he didnt have t do that.

On Wednesday Night Sex:

Westernized Woman: “Touch me and I am calling the cops.”

Filipina: “Sure, why not.”

Are you seriously expecting anyone to beleive this?

On Shopping:

Westernized Woman: “I just have to have that Vuitton purse/Tiffany bracelet/etc..”

Filipina: “I wonder if I can find a first-class copy.”

I am the ultimate bargain hunter and I hate paying over inflated prices for designer labels - I wouldnt even bother to pay for a so called first class copy after all why buy a copy, you really are saying you would like the original but cant afford it. I cant afford it and am not ashamed of that. I will buy something else instead as copies of the items you describe are over inflated even as copies.

On Financial Setbacks:

Westernized Woman: “So what are you going to do about it.”

Filipina: “Maybe I can get some overtime to help out.”

[b]I have no issue with working and have always been of the mind that it is teamwork - during my first marriage I took on several jobs that had to fit in around my commitments as a mother and wife - meaning I worked low paying jobs to contribute to the family income as well as ensuring my child had the benefit of her parent during her daytime.

More recently my husband found himself unemployed through no fault of his own -we were fortunate that I had access to funds that enabled us pay rent, bill and eat until he found employment.[/b]

On Exploded Home Appliance:

Westernized Woman: “I told you not to buy that cheap thing.”

Filipina: “………” Dead silence. The Filipina is hiding.

[b]When a household appliance breaks down.... then it breaks down ... nothing comes with a lifetime guarantee

Why would any woman be in hiding ? Dont think I would be impressed if my partner hid when a appliance broke down - it would speak volumes about our relationship dont you think?[/b]

On Infidelity:

Westernized Woman: “I’ll find the nastiest divorce lawyer in Beverly Hills.”

Filipina: “The best way to keep a man away from other women is to be sure he is satisfied at home.”

Me: “I can’t cheat on her (if she is a Filipina). That woman is so good to me……..”

I remember my divorce as being amicable - because we communicated about what each of us were feeling and realised that if one person was out of love with the other then there is no point in making both of you unhappy - everything was done with as little fuss and cost as possible.

I think this is more about YOU and the choices in women you have sought out ?.

To the OP - you may want to justify why you want to go for a girl so young and submissive all you want. You don't have to put the rest of the women down. Just shows insecurity and a need to control.

[Y's_habibitk 2]

Do you really believe a Filipina doesn't care about the money you make?? Even if you are a poor USC their life might turn out to be better in the US than in their home country. And I think you run a higher risk of meeting these girls by looking at dating agencies that fall under IMBRA. It's a different story most of the times though, if you would go there on vacation and fall in love...Also I am sure there is a lot of filipino women who are in their early 30ies, have accomplished something in life and earn their own good money. But those probably won't even be interested in a man who seems to not being able to dal with grown-up women that are independent and not submissive. Or why do you look at 19year olds?

And why just a Filipina, any woman will care how much money her SO makes. American women are like any other women in any other country in the world - The are women!

Trying to get a wife from a third world country and that too someone who is your daughter's age who has no idea about life here is like burying your head in the sand for the time being. She will grow up and start thinking like a woman eventually and then if she doesn't want to continue with this arrangement, it can be termed fraud.

Yes, I really do believe that there are REAL differences between American and Filipinas. Sure, woman are woman, but Western woman are known to have big expectations in the $$ department. Asian ladies tend to view marriage as a "team effort" in terms of supporting a living. If there isnt enough income, they will help out. Many western woman will just divorce you. Plain and simple. I have been to the Philippines 5 times, and feel I have come to know filipinas quite well to see the difference.

On important decisions:

Westernized Woman: “You idiot. Why didn’t you do it my way?”

Filipina: “Up to you….” (This does not mean “up to you”. It means please tell me why you are doing this and then I will tell you how I feel.)

After receiving a gift:

Westernized Woman: Says “thanks” while instantly comparing it to the version owned by her most ostentatious friend.

Filipina: “Thanks, but you really didn’t need to do this.”

On Wednesday Night Sex:

Westernized Woman: “Touch me and I am calling the cops.”

Filipina: “Sure, why not.”

On Shopping:

Westernized Woman: “I just have to have that Vuitton purse/Tiffany bracelet/etc..”

Filipina: “I wonder if I can find a first-class copy.”

On Financial Setbacks:

Westernized Woman: “So what are you going to do about it.”

Filipina: “Maybe I can get some overtime to help out.”

On Exploded Home Appliance:

Westernized Woman: “I told you not to buy that cheap thing.”

Filipina: “………” Dead silence. The Filipina is hiding.

On Infidelity:

Westernized Woman: “I’ll find the nastiest divorce lawyer in Beverly Hills.”

Filipina: “The best way to keep a man away from other women is to be sure he is satisfied at home.”

Me: “I can’t cheat on her (if she is a Filipina). That woman is so good to me……..”

Im sorry your perseption is so scewed or that you have had THAT bad of an experience with women here.

The fact is, i dont know ANY women that fit the descriptions you have given above.

Unless you think all women are the "real wives of orange county" chicks heh heh

I hope you find what you are looking for

[Laura+Tom 2]

Ahhh now you have widened the field to "Westernized " rather than American women I now feel I can respond on a personal note:-

"On important decisions:

Westernized Woman: “You idiot. Why didn’t you do it my way?”

Filipina: “Up to you….” (This does not mean “up to you”. It means please tell me why you are doing this and then I will tell you how I feel.)"

We always discuss actions which will impact on both of us - we are a team, and mindful of each others thoughts, experience and feelings - anything less is dis respectful.

After receiving a gift:

Westernized Woman: Says “thanks” while instantly comparing it to the version owned by her most ostentatious friend.

Filipina: “Thanks, but you really didn’t need to do this.”

Recently, both my husband and I agreed to forgo personal gifts this Christmas as we have just moved and set up new residence - we have already had quite heavy expenditure this year - however I found he had bought me a gift and I was so thrilled and made sure he knew he didnt have t do that.

On Wednesday Night Sex:

Westernized Woman: “Touch me and I am calling the cops.”

Filipina: “Sure, why not.”

Are you seriously expecting anyone to beleive this?

On Shopping:

Westernized Woman: “I just have to have that Vuitton purse/Tiffany bracelet/etc..”

Filipina: “I wonder if I can find a first-class copy.”

I am the ultimate bargain hunter and I hate paying over inflated prices for designer labels - I wouldnt even bother to pay for a so called first class copy after all why buy a copy, you really are saying you would like the original but cant afford it. I cant afford it and am not ashamed of that. I will buy something else instead as copies of the items you describe are over inflated even as copies.

On Financial Setbacks:

Westernized Woman: “So what are you going to do about it.”

Filipina: “Maybe I can get some overtime to help out.”

[b]I have no issue with working and have always been of the mind that it is teamwork - during my first marriage I took on several jobs that had to fit in around my commitments as a mother and wife - meaning I worked low paying jobs to contribute to the family income as well as ensuring my child had the benefit of her parent during her daytime.

More recently my husband found himself unemployed through no fault of his own -we were fortunate that I had access to funds that enabled us pay rent, bill and eat until he found employment.[/b]

On Exploded Home Appliance:

Westernized Woman: “I told you not to buy that cheap thing.”

Filipina: “………” Dead silence. The Filipina is hiding.

[b]When a household appliance breaks down.... then it breaks down ... nothing comes with a lifetime guarantee

Why would any woman be in hiding ? Dont think I would be impressed if my partner hid when a appliance broke down - it would speak volumes about our relationship dont you think?[/b]

On Infidelity:

Westernized Woman: “I’ll find the nastiest divorce lawyer in Beverly Hills.”

Filipina: “The best way to keep a man away from other women is to be sure he is satisfied at home.”

Me: “I can’t cheat on her (if she is a Filipina). That woman is so good to me……..”

I remember my divorce as being amicable - because we communicated about what each of us were feeling and realised that if one person was out of love with the other then there is no point in making both of you unhappy - everything was done with as little fuss and cost as possible.

I think this is more about YOU and the choices in women you have sought out ?.

100% agree Truffles. I'd like to see what some American women think of his generalisations...

[Old Dominion 26]

It's wrong to think the OP seeks a subservient wife, just because she is lots younger. He has his reasons for seeking an overseas bride, and to him they make good sense. If this time it works out for him, that's wonderful. Perhaps the previous K-1 relationships were learning experiences for him.

[Anastassia 0]

I thought IMBRA was also created to limit serial visa applications.

Steve55 will you stop petitioning if the next "fiancée" doesn't work out for whatever reason ?

[inGODShands 0]

LoL

If I could only find a 30 to 36 yr old woman in the states who isnt overweight, carrying baggage from previous marriages, and who doesnt care how much money I make, then I just might not need to look overseas for marriage.

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If you were a bit more open minded, maybe you wouldnt keep wasting the money and having to look abroad......everyone has baggage by the time they hit 30. Marriage, previous relationships...all that jazz. It's called life experience.

Just saying...

Good luck with number 4.